My Secret Jardin DR300W setup and review

Tanuvan

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Anyone find a solution to...

Bottom Window Slots (2 in the back and 2 on the sides) - 7 of 10. Good for air intake with nice screens to keep out pests. Problem is they let light in when they are open. Use at your own discretion.

How do you vent without using the bottom flaps?
 

forseti

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Ducting through the bottom intakes, at least thats what I intend to do. Just put a turn in it somewhere to trap the light.
 

Bublonichronic

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i just bought a Dr150 and i love it, there are some light leeks but it is def. better than that death box of a hydro hut, i wouldnt buy any other brand
 

Hotwired

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I heard the new Hydro's are way better now.

Anyways I gave up finishing this review. On my 4th grow now with wonderful success. It just wasn't worth it for me to write all this shit down and not even get 1 simple +rep. Almost 1200 views and no rep at all.

I'm gonna be stuck on minus rep forever.........lol screw it :-P
 

Poon69

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If I knew how to find the feckin +rep button on here I'd hit u up mate. Can't find it since they changed the fuckin graphics on here. Point me in the right direction. This is a good review seein as I'm about to purchase a grow tent, carbon filter and intake n exhaust fans and, similarly, vent straight from the top of the tent 3" into my attic. I'd like to know how it all looks mate and what temp probs u may have experienced. e.g. what sort of timescales did u leaves fans on for to achieve optimum temps. At what cfm were they running? Did u find it gettin too hot or too cold in the tent at all and how did u solve that? Keep it up pls buddy, and as I said, tell me where the bleedin +rep is nowadays! lol
 

Hotwired

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If I knew how to find the feckin +rep button on here I'd hit u up mate. Can't find it since they changed the fuckin graphics on here. Point me in the right direction. This is a good review seein as I'm about to purchase a grow tent, carbon filter and intake n exhaust fans and, similarly, vent straight from the top of the tent 3" into my attic. I'd like to know how it all looks mate and what temp probs u may have experienced. e.g. what sort of timescales did u leaves fans on for to achieve optimum temps. At what cfm were they running? Did u find it gettin too hot or too cold in the tent at all and how did u solve that? Keep it up pls buddy, and as I said, tell me where the bleedin +rep is nowadays! lol

hehe...I changed my shit back to the old style. Went to my setting and options to change it.

I'll try to answer some of your questions.

What temp problems did I have?

First let me explain what different temps outide the tent can do to your grow.

The most important things to know about inline fans is how loud they are (if you need stealth) and how much air they can pull thru the line with all the static pressure. If stealth is not an issue than by all means use any fan to do the job. Just try to calculate how strong of a fan you need to pull your old air out or to cool your light.

It's different for every situation. You need to take into account what air is going to be feeding your room. Is it from outside? Hot or cold? Is it from inside? Warm or cool? Here is the trick. You can cool a 1000 watt hps with a little 200 cfm fan IF you are using outside air that is around or below 60 degress F. If your room was 75 degrees inside and you were using the 60 degree outside air to cool your lights and tent, it would probably stay at room temp with another small fan pulling air out of the tent.

But if the temp of the air outside is above the inside air then you will have problems. You will then be forced to use the air in your room to cool your tent. This is when you decide if you want a portable A/C or not. Or if you have central air you can chose to keep your house on 75....of course the consequences of this will be a much higher electric bill.

I have had all these problems. When it's nice and cool outside I use outside air (under 75) to cool my tent and lights. Otherwise the A/C goes on. When it is 60 degrees or under outside my tent stays around 75. Perfect shit.

But, when the temps go up, you need to counter this with higher cfm from your fans (or a port A/C). At least the one for the lights. 75 degree air can still cool your lights quite nicely IF you have enough air speed and volume going by the bulbs. The fan for the filter can still be kept on low speed if you take care of the lights properly.

Timescale for leaving fans on?

Well I have 2 16" circulation fans that stay on LOW 24/7. You can hardly hear them. I have a TD-150 (wired on low) pulling air thru a Can 33 filter on 24/7. I have another TD-150 (wired on HI) pulling air thru two 1000 watt lights. This fan is on only when the lights are on.

Yes, I waste a lot of space with the 16" circulation fans. One foot on each side of the tent, but it's worth it.

What cfm were they running?

Well this is hard to tell. You can go by the manufacturers specs but you really need a good gauge to calculate exactly what the fan is pulling. It all depends on the length of duct and static pressure. The specs might say "this fan can pull 300 cfm", but you really need a gauge at the beggining of the run to tell how much cfm is really being used.

But I think you want to know what cfm these fans run at, Here is a link to the fans and their specs:

http://www.hvacquick.com/spfnconfig.php?fm=td

I use two TD-150's. One for the lights (wired on HI), and one for my filter (wired on LOW). The fan on low speed runs at 220 cfm @ 0 static pressure. I'm running it thru my filter because the specs say this fan can do 24 cfm at .75 sp. Well that's just bullshit cause I'm pulling over 100 cfm thru the filter. AND....this is with a 10' run with 2 elbows. Working like a charm with no struggle at all.
The fan wired HI speed runs at almost 300 cfm @ 0 sp. I wired this on HI because I knew I would need the extra cfm to cool the lights. Plus the run is over 20' long with 2 elbows. Works fine with no stuggle at all. I figure I'm pulling at least 250 cfm even at this length. These fans are MUCH stronger than they say they are. It's why I exchanged the TD-200 I ordered for another 150. The 200 is as stong as a Vortex.

This is how I leave them. I won't use a speed controller cause they hum like a bitch when I do. They are quiet enough but also strong enough to get the job done.

So to answer this particular question about cfm is kind of hard. I leave them running at what speed they say they are. But it all depends on duct run length, turns, filters or whatever else may cause staic pressure in the line. Then you can use a gauge to determine what cfm is really being used.

The best thing to do is try to calculate how much static pressure will be in your line and use the fans spec sheet to see what would be best. Remember this tho, some of these fans are a bit stronger than stated.

I hope this helped a bit.
 

BCtrippin

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If I knew how to find the feckin +rep button on here I'd hit u up mate. Can't find it since they changed the fuckin graphics on here. Point me in the right direction. This is a good review seein as I'm about to purchase a grow tent, carbon filter and intake n exhaust fans and, similarly, vent straight from the top of the tent 3" into my attic. I'd like to know how it all looks mate and what temp probs u may have experienced. e.g. what sort of timescales did u leaves fans on for to achieve optimum temps. At what cfm were they running? Did u find it gettin too hot or too cold in the tent at all and how did u solve that? Keep it up pls buddy, and as I said, tell me where the bleedin +rep is nowadays! lol
The new layout is bugged. You need to switch back to the old one. When logged in scroll down to the very bottom and for the layout template select Blzin-07


:peace:
 

Poon69

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Nice one Hotwired. That's given me summat to think about. I hadn't thought of the fact the fan would be less effective attached to the carbon filter! doh! I think I'm gonna go with a 5" 355cfm ruck fan and filter, set it all up and then just see what happens. I'll be venting from the room rather than outside so I guess it's not gonna be easy to predict results until I set it all up.

I'd also planned on packin the room with plants, between 6 and 9, and haven't allowed for fans. Altho I'm thinkin about the small clip on fans, perhaps 4 of them, one clipped to each vertical pole on the tent.

Cheers for the help tho. +rep (changed skins and found the button again! woop lol)
 

Hotwired

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Thanks for the rep Poon. Hope everything works out. Those clip-on fans are a pain in the ass to keep in one spot. I use 'em in my DR120. I had to clip them on the top bar cause it's the only place they stay without falling. I hung one in each corner and used a 4th to blow in air from the sock on the top. It sits right on top of the hole and blows air in.

One of these days I'll be able to afford a camera and take some pics. On my 4th grow now with Afghan Kush. Started with fem seeds and they are kicking ass. No herms, no problems. I don't even keep moms, I just take clones from a finished vegged clone and restart the process. Works like a charm :-o
 

TheRuiner

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Thanks for the rep Poon. Hope everything works out. Those clip-on fans are a pain in the ass to keep in one spot. I use 'em in my DR120. I had to clip them on the top bar cause it's the only place they stay without falling. I hung one in each corner and used a 4th to blow in air from the sock on the top. It sits right on top of the hole and blows air in.

One of these days I'll be able to afford a camera and take some pics. On my 4th grow now with Afghan Kush. Started with fem seeds and they are kicking ass. No herms, no problems. I don't even keep moms, I just take clones from a finished vegged clone and restart the process. Works like a charm :-o
Thanks for putting all this together Wired, great reviews by the way. I have been shopping around and am pretty stuck on a DR120, I'd really like to see you get detailed with it, and some pictures would absolutely freakin' rule, to bad you can't post any for us all to marvel over. :clap:
 

Hotwired

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Thanks for putting all this together Wired, great reviews by the way. I have been shopping around and am pretty stuck on a DR120, I'd really like to see you get detailed with it, and some pictures would absolutely freakin' rule, to bad you can't post any for us all to marvel over. :clap:
Hey thanks for the kind words Ruiner :-o

You should really like the DR120. The metal poles used for the frame are only about 4' long. So they only use one pole for the crossmembers. This makes it much stronger than my DR300w which uses two 2 1/2' poles for their crossmembers. The sad part is that a 1000 watt light can still show thru the skin in some spots. The DR120 also has the same problems with the sock holes and zippers as the other tents. Light leaks like crazy. But I can live with them because they still block 98% of all light.

I really never finished my reviews for both my tents and one day I will try to do it with pics. Watch out if you use insulated duct. I think the socks for the 150, 240 and 300 are all 8". The problem with that is you can only use 6" insulated duct and it's still a tight fit thru the 8" openings.

The smaller tents like the 120 have 6" socks. I haven't tried yet but most likely the only size insulated duct that would fit thru the socks would be the 4" insulated duct. You could probably fit the proper sized elbows inside the sock but I don't think they would be too stable. Again haven't tried this but it may be an option.

The tents hold the light and heat very well. I have not yet smelled any odors from my tent but I don't grow the real heavy smelly stuff.

Maybe I'll get back on this review one day and do it with a camera :hump:
 

TheRuiner

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Hey thanks for the kind words Ruiner :-o

You should really like the DR120. The metal poles used for the frame are only about 4' long. So they only use one pole for the crossmembers. This makes it much stronger than my DR300w which uses two 2 1/2' poles for their crossmembers. The sad part is that a 1000 watt light can still show thru the skin in some spots. The DR120 also has the same problems with the sock holes and zippers as the other tents. Light leaks like crazy. But I can live with them because they still block 98% of all light.

I really never finished my reviews for both my tents and one day I will try to do it with pics. Watch out if you use insulated duct. I think the socks for the 150, 240 and 300 are all 8". The problem with that is you can only use 6" insulated duct and it's still a tight fit thru the 8" openings.

The smaller tents like the 120 have 6" socks. I haven't tried yet but most likely the only size insulated duct that would fit thru the socks would be the 4" insulated duct. You could probably fit the proper sized elbows inside the sock but I don't think they would be too stable. Again haven't tried this but it may be an option.

The tents hold the light and heat very well. I have not yet smelled any odors from my tent but I don't grow the real heavy smelly stuff.

Maybe I'll get back on this review one day and do it with a camera :hump:
How about the material itself, how would it hold up against a couple cats scratching at it, I have a few cats that get into everything and I'm wondering how easy it would be for them to mess with it? That's a little disappointing to hear that it leaks light, it's not so bad that you ever considered sending it back right? I wouldn't be using anything bigger than a 600 watt light in it, and that would be after upgrading from a 400 watt, maybe that wouldn't be as bad. Would love to see some pics one day if you get around to it, thanks again for the details on these products, the dr120 in particular, I hope your grow goes well!
PS ~ You said you don't have a smell issue, what strain are you growing exactly, or is it just bag seed? Seems like you wouldn't spend all that money to get up and running to not grow something that would blow your head off. :)
 

Hotwired

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lol

I don't have any cats around to toss on my tent but if I did I'd give it a shot just for you :shock:

hehe just kidding

I would think those pint sized tigers could claw thru anything if they wanted to. But if they start nipping and clawing anything you can always close the room off.

Growing? I don't grow anything. That Afghan Kush just pops up naturally in my tent. No idea where it comes from :shock:
 

TheRuiner

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lol

I don't have any cats around to toss on my tent but if I did I'd give it a shot just for you :shock:

hehe just kidding

I would think those pint sized tigers could claw thru anything if they wanted to. But if they start nipping and clawing anything you can always close the room off.

Growing? I don't grow anything. That Afghan Kush just pops up naturally in my tent. No idea where it comes from :shock:
LOL, of course it just pops up, that's exactly what i figured, i simply worded the question wrong my friend. That's what I was afraid of with the cats, and the only problem I see from there is that this room is the cats room. It's where I put them up, and the only place that's an option for me to "see what springs up"
 
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