NagRuTan
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Greets,
So I should aim for 1000 watt hps with digital ballast as well as a MH bulb? I thought the plastic was pretty cool and might as well grab a few feet of that, who knows might be pretty good.
Nag.
Nag's grow room from the start.
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Greets,
So I should aim for 1000 watt hps with digital ballast as well as a MH bulb? I thought the plastic was pretty cool and might as well grab a few feet of that, who knows might be pretty good.
Nag.
billybob88
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i would. 600s and 1000s cost virtually the same
billybob88
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your room is roughly 28 sq feet. a 1000 watt hps puts out around 140,000 lumens. do the math and you will have 5,000 lumens per sq foot. the sun is 10,000 lumens per square foot. a 600 watt hps puts out 90,000 lumens. if you were to go with a 600 you would have 3214 lumens per square foot. just some info to think about
NagRuTan
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Greets,
Ok, from peoples input would this light setup be the best bang for my buck?
1. 1000 watt digital greenhouse ballast (Dual HPS/MH with 5 year warranty)
2. 4 sided horizontal reflector hood (19"Lx14"Wx5.5"Deep 95% reflect)
3. Removable socket with 15' cord
4. 1000 Watt HPS 150,000 lumen's (Growbright brand)
5. 1000 Watt MH 95,000 lumen's (AgroMax brand)
6. Dual timer control
7. Remote digital thermometer / hygrometer (Growbright brand)
This is a package deal for $410.00 shipped
Nag.
Ok, from peoples input would this light setup be the best bang for my buck?
1. 1000 watt digital greenhouse ballast (Dual HPS/MH with 5 year warranty)
2. 4 sided horizontal reflector hood (19"Lx14"Wx5.5"Deep 95% reflect)
3. Removable socket with 15' cord
4. 1000 Watt HPS 150,000 lumen's (Growbright brand)
5. 1000 Watt MH 95,000 lumen's (AgroMax brand)
6. Dual timer control
7. Remote digital thermometer / hygrometer (Growbright brand)
This is a package deal for $410.00 shipped
Nag.
NagRuTan
Active Member
Greets,
The ph combo meter I'm thinking of getting is another ebay buy with these stats (Model pht-026):
Range
Accuracy
CF
0.0 ~ 199
± 2% FS
EC
0.00 ~ 19.99
± 2% FS
pH
0.00~ 14.00
± 0.1 pH
TDS
10~ 19990
± 2% FS
Temp
-50°C~70°C / -58°F ~ 158°F
1.0°C
$100.00 shipped. Any thoughts?
Nag.
The ph combo meter I'm thinking of getting is another ebay buy with these stats (Model pht-026):
- CF
- EC
- pH
- PPM
- TDS
- Temperature
Range
Accuracy
CF
0.0 ~ 199
± 2% FS
EC
0.00 ~ 19.99
± 2% FS
pH
0.00~ 14.00
± 0.1 pH
TDS
10~ 19990
± 2% FS
Temp
-50°C~70°C / -58°F ~ 158°F
1.0°C
$100.00 shipped. Any thoughts?
Nag.
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G-Moe
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I have that meter from eBay. It's about 6 mo. old and has worked fine so far.
Make sure you have good fans to cool those lights. All your reflectors need to be air cooled, and you need at least a 465 cfm fan for the 1000 watt hps. Metal halides run even hotter, and in a small space heat may be your biggest concern. If you supplement with CO2 you may be able to get by with hotter temps, but even then it's easy to burn your plants! Just my 2 cents...
Make sure you have good fans to cool those lights. All your reflectors need to be air cooled, and you need at least a 465 cfm fan for the 1000 watt hps. Metal halides run even hotter, and in a small space heat may be your biggest concern. If you supplement with CO2 you may be able to get by with hotter temps, but even then it's easy to burn your plants! Just my 2 cents...
billybob88
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he's right. heat really is the biggest problem in growing indoors. you just have to take proper measures to ensure that heat isnt a problem. meter looks great, all of those measurements are crucial. light sounds good too. just make sure its got the shit to seal and vent it. i dunno about a 465 cfm fan to cool a 1000 watt. i have a 270 cfm can fan on my 2 600 watters and the glass at the bulb stays so cool i can touch my hand on it and hold it there. i even use the open end of my lights to vent my room. it sucks so might air through those lights that i havent run into ventilation/heat issues in my room. but yes i am also using a 9x5x7 room. the air needs to be changed AT LEAST once every 3-5 minutes. my room is 315 cubic feet. with a 270 cfm can fan i think my room is fine. havent done the exact math but whatever. its working. so actually lol you might need a 465 cfm fan. sorry im stoned lol
NagRuTan
Active Member
Greets,
Yes, I will be sealing and venting the light. As for changing the room air out every 3-5mins or so, I'm going to be running a co2 injection system while lights are running. I don't need to vent the room while the co2 is running right?
Nag.
billybob88
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word, what kind of injection system will you be running? some homemade shit or like a tank with a regulator on it. if you have your lights vented from a duct outside the room going to the lights and then the duct from the lights running outside the room i assume u could just run co2 in there and not vent. but if your using a tank with a regulator, you should hook it to a timer and run it like for like 15-30 minutes every hour or two. and if your going that route u need to shut off the fans if your room is vented so u dont just suck out the co2 u paid for. theres a really good video on youtube. its called I Grow Chronic! the guy goes from start to finish hydroponics growing ak-47 and WW. pretty cool vid i suggest a watch.
VictorVIcious
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What, did they take the chimney out when they put in the new furnace or just put a cap on it. Man it doesn't get any better than this.
VV
NagRuTan
Active Member
Greets,
That was a pretty damn informative video, answered a few more questions that have been rolling around in my head. The co2 system I'm putting together is a tank and timer setup something similar to what was shown in the vid and try to time sink it together (co2 on, room venting off for a couple of hours). I'm sure mistakes will be made.
I did get my seeds, AK47 and Butterscotch Hawaiian. Nag.
NagRuTan
Active Member
Greets,
Chimney is still there but on the opposite side of the basement. I would have to run about 30' of venting. I was thinking that would be to far to try and vent it.
Nag.
billybob88
Well-Known Member
man nice selection for strains. ak and butterscotch hawaiian mmmm that sounds good. i just bought some original blueberry and strawberry cough today. need to get my fruity smoke on.
NagRuTan
Active Member
Greets,
Yea, lucked out on the seeds. I have only one strain of the AK47 but 2 different strains of the BH (G13xBH@50/50) and (G13xBH@75/25). bout 150 seeds of the AK and 125 ea of the BH's. Is there a decent way to store seeds at all? Thanx.
Nag.
billybob88
Well-Known Member
in a sealed container in a dark place in your fridge. damn man u got a goatload of seeds. hook it up!
NagRuTan
Active Member
Greets,
The material gathering continues. So I have been looking at the different timers and have seen some pretty cheap analog (and questionable timers) as well as some pretty expensive digital (but lacking multiple outputs) ones. Then I got to thinking about using a computer to control an interface that would be more capable of running multiple outputs with a good timer program to back it and does this cheaply....Behold I give you the K74V2.
Do you have an old PC lying around the house which absolutely no one wants? Then you can convert it into a dedicated controller. Communicate with the real world via the parallel printer port on your PC. Simply connect printer cable from your computer to the connector on relay board. There are 8 relays each capable of switching 12VDC/10A or 240VAC/5A. Each relay has an LED to indicate when it is operated. We provide two sets of complete, stand-alone software to control the relays: one works under DOS so you can write your own batch files to control individual relays, the other under Windows 9x/2000/ME/XP.
And the software that comes with this controller is pretty stout for a control application (I will attach some screens of the software running). All of this for $34usd in kit form or $39usd assembled and tested.
Nag.
The material gathering continues. So I have been looking at the different timers and have seen some pretty cheap analog (and questionable timers) as well as some pretty expensive digital (but lacking multiple outputs) ones. Then I got to thinking about using a computer to control an interface that would be more capable of running multiple outputs with a good timer program to back it and does this cheaply....Behold I give you the K74V2.
Do you have an old PC lying around the house which absolutely no one wants? Then you can convert it into a dedicated controller. Communicate with the real world via the parallel printer port on your PC. Simply connect printer cable from your computer to the connector on relay board. There are 8 relays each capable of switching 12VDC/10A or 240VAC/5A. Each relay has an LED to indicate when it is operated. We provide two sets of complete, stand-alone software to control the relays: one works under DOS so you can write your own batch files to control individual relays, the other under Windows 9x/2000/ME/XP.
- Requires 12VDC Power Supply.
- Relay has Normally Open and Normally Closed Contacts rated for voltages 12VDC @ 10A, 125VAC @ 10A, or 250VAC @ 5Amps.
- Dos / Windows Software Download below.
- L: 8-1/2" W: 2-3/4" H: 1"
And the software that comes with this controller is pretty stout for a control application (I will attach some screens of the software running). All of this for $34usd in kit form or $39usd assembled and tested.
Nag.
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billybob88
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damn that sounds complicated. lol im stoned but still, how would you apply this to your grow room?
NagRuTan
Active Member
Greets,
I figure instead of running multiple timers to accomplish control of the grow room, I can use this single interface for all the items that I need controlled saving time, money, and hassle.
Veg lights
Grow lights
CO2 injection
Veg pump
Grow pump
Exhaust fans
Plant fans
Nag.
billybob88
Well-Known Member
gotcha but how/where do u plug shit in like lights, fans, etc