AetvsDominvs
Active Member
Did that get your attention? Sorry no naked pics here, just plant problems.
So I've been doing this for a while, and this is my 4th run of these Diesel Ryder autoflowering plants from dope-seeds.com through Low Ryder seeds. I have never run into any problems until now. I really need some help here, I cant figure out what is wrong with some of these and have tried a number of things to correct the issue but none have worked to date.
First, here's the info:
Strain: Diesel Ryder
Age: 6 weeks, about 60 plants
Setup: GreenTrees Hydroponics Flood/Drain system in 3 gallon buckets
Media: Hydroton and 'Jiffy' peat pellets
Lights: 3x 1000w HPS (Eye Hortilux) and ~20 54w CFLs - 18/6 cycle
Nutrients (base): Fox Farm Grow Big (hydro), Big Bloom, and Tiger Bloom.
Nutrients (additional): Fox Farm 3-part Solubles (Open Sesame, Beastie Bloom, Cha-Ching) (Currently only using Beastie Bloom)
Additives: Hygrozyme (1/2 recommnded strength), Pirahna, Tarantula (also both at 1/2 recommnded dose)
P.h.: 5.8
Feeding Schedule: 30min/4hours
Average Temp: 70 night to 80 day (a little warm but it never caused any problems before)
Humidity 25-50% (its really dry where I live, its hard to get it above that)
All of the information above is the same as what I did on the last grow and all of the plants were completely healthy throughout the cycle.
I normally start the seeds in Rockwool (Grodan) but this time I used 'Jiffy Pellets' brand Peat Pellets. That is the only difference from my last very successful grow. I suspect this may have something to do with why they are dying, but I asked around and no one seemed to think that putting peat pellets into the hydro system would cause any problems.... idk. Maybe there is a fungus or bacteria living in the peat that is eating through the roots right where they connect to the stalk...
Here's some pics:
-Most of the plants are totally healthy
http://img33.imageshack.us/i/99413381.jpg/
-But some of them started getting yellow leaves around the bottom of the plant about 2 weeks ago
http://img368.imageshack.us/i/96363780.jpg/
-After the yellowing gets nearly to the top (5-7 days) the plant wil suddenly 'wilt'...
http://img39.imageshack.us/i/60382309.jpg/
http://img32.imageshack.us/i/96308869.jpg/
-After the wilting they never recover.
http://img36.imageshack.us/i/68979249.jpg/
Whats weird about this is that it seems completely random. Because these are lowryders I grow 2 or even 4 plants in each 3 gallon bucket. In some cases a dying plant will be in the same bucket as a thriving plant. In other cases, all plants in one bucket will be affected.
Initially when I started seeing the problems I thought it was bugs, so I put out some sticky traps to see what I would catch. After 48 hours all I had caught was one big spider and a few little tiny bugs that I think might be thrips but there didnt seem to be enough of them to be the source of dying plants. I do not see any signs of pests on any of the plants anywhere.
Some more pics here
Then, I figured it was root rot or some kind of mold in the roots (even though most of the roots look white and healthy, maybe a little brown, and the root zones smell good, like nice clean dirt, as does the water). So I treated the whole system with Banrot WP40 (I know this isnt used very often in hydroponic applications so here's a link to the label - http://igcusa.com/Catalogs/Banrot-Label.pdf) - I used about 4 ounces of Banrot in my 55 gallon nutrient tank and let it run through the system on the same feeding schedule as normal for 24 hours, then I flushed the whole system wiht water, then with General Hydro FloraKleen for a few hours, then a fresh nutrient solution mix. This had no affect, and within a few days I had more plants yellowing on the bottom.
A frinds convinced me then that I may have some kind of insect that only lives only in the medium (?) so I bought some Pyrethrin solution and soaked the roots of the sick plants in it, and some of the healthy plants as well. This didnt seem to help (or hurt) either.
I'm at the end of my wits here and starting to fear that whatever is going on is going to wipe out my whole crop before harvest which is only about 6 weeks away now. What else should I try?!? Predator nematodes? Pirate bugs? Pyrethrium fogger? WTF?!?!?!?
Please take a look at these pics and read what I've written here and send me any advice you may have... I'm really stuck....
Thanks a million!
Aetvsdominvs
So I've been doing this for a while, and this is my 4th run of these Diesel Ryder autoflowering plants from dope-seeds.com through Low Ryder seeds. I have never run into any problems until now. I really need some help here, I cant figure out what is wrong with some of these and have tried a number of things to correct the issue but none have worked to date.
First, here's the info:
Strain: Diesel Ryder
Age: 6 weeks, about 60 plants
Setup: GreenTrees Hydroponics Flood/Drain system in 3 gallon buckets
Media: Hydroton and 'Jiffy' peat pellets
Lights: 3x 1000w HPS (Eye Hortilux) and ~20 54w CFLs - 18/6 cycle
Nutrients (base): Fox Farm Grow Big (hydro), Big Bloom, and Tiger Bloom.
Nutrients (additional): Fox Farm 3-part Solubles (Open Sesame, Beastie Bloom, Cha-Ching) (Currently only using Beastie Bloom)
Additives: Hygrozyme (1/2 recommnded strength), Pirahna, Tarantula (also both at 1/2 recommnded dose)
P.h.: 5.8
Feeding Schedule: 30min/4hours
Average Temp: 70 night to 80 day (a little warm but it never caused any problems before)
Humidity 25-50% (its really dry where I live, its hard to get it above that)
All of the information above is the same as what I did on the last grow and all of the plants were completely healthy throughout the cycle.
I normally start the seeds in Rockwool (Grodan) but this time I used 'Jiffy Pellets' brand Peat Pellets. That is the only difference from my last very successful grow. I suspect this may have something to do with why they are dying, but I asked around and no one seemed to think that putting peat pellets into the hydro system would cause any problems.... idk. Maybe there is a fungus or bacteria living in the peat that is eating through the roots right where they connect to the stalk...
Here's some pics:
-Most of the plants are totally healthy
http://img33.imageshack.us/i/99413381.jpg/
-But some of them started getting yellow leaves around the bottom of the plant about 2 weeks ago
http://img368.imageshack.us/i/96363780.jpg/
-After the yellowing gets nearly to the top (5-7 days) the plant wil suddenly 'wilt'...
http://img39.imageshack.us/i/60382309.jpg/
http://img32.imageshack.us/i/96308869.jpg/
-After the wilting they never recover.
http://img36.imageshack.us/i/68979249.jpg/
Whats weird about this is that it seems completely random. Because these are lowryders I grow 2 or even 4 plants in each 3 gallon bucket. In some cases a dying plant will be in the same bucket as a thriving plant. In other cases, all plants in one bucket will be affected.
Initially when I started seeing the problems I thought it was bugs, so I put out some sticky traps to see what I would catch. After 48 hours all I had caught was one big spider and a few little tiny bugs that I think might be thrips but there didnt seem to be enough of them to be the source of dying plants. I do not see any signs of pests on any of the plants anywhere.
Some more pics here
Then, I figured it was root rot or some kind of mold in the roots (even though most of the roots look white and healthy, maybe a little brown, and the root zones smell good, like nice clean dirt, as does the water). So I treated the whole system with Banrot WP40 (I know this isnt used very often in hydroponic applications so here's a link to the label - http://igcusa.com/Catalogs/Banrot-Label.pdf) - I used about 4 ounces of Banrot in my 55 gallon nutrient tank and let it run through the system on the same feeding schedule as normal for 24 hours, then I flushed the whole system wiht water, then with General Hydro FloraKleen for a few hours, then a fresh nutrient solution mix. This had no affect, and within a few days I had more plants yellowing on the bottom.
A frinds convinced me then that I may have some kind of insect that only lives only in the medium (?) so I bought some Pyrethrin solution and soaked the roots of the sick plants in it, and some of the healthy plants as well. This didnt seem to help (or hurt) either.
I'm at the end of my wits here and starting to fear that whatever is going on is going to wipe out my whole crop before harvest which is only about 6 weeks away now. What else should I try?!? Predator nematodes? Pirate bugs? Pyrethrium fogger? WTF?!?!?!?
Please take a look at these pics and read what I've written here and send me any advice you may have... I'm really stuck....
Thanks a million!
Aetvsdominvs
