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Name My Auto Growing System

thekevin07

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PAR or LUX?

Should I be measuring PAR, LUX or both for my light readings? I might need help finding a par meter that I can hook up to a circuit that doesn't cost as much as a commercial par meter. I wanted to go with PAR originally but of the few options available online I couldn't find one cheap. .
 

justugh

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PAR or LUX?

Should I be measuring PAR, LUX or both for my light readings? I might need help finding a par meter that I can hook up to a circuit that doesn't cost as much as a commercial par meter. I wanted to go with PAR originally but of the few options available online I couldn't find one cheap. .

both ......led market covered in par and HIDs are Lux
https://www.licor.com/env/products/light/quantum.html
ask and u shall receive ....as for cheap put that in the model 2 once china starts to make knockoffs of the orginal senor

What about garden feed back?
what do u mean

unless we are going deep the best u can get on feed back is a report on
ppm starting ppm for the week
water amount added time date
ph fluxes/dose times/amounts
Co2 injections time amount result and timing until it returns to base
temp on water
temp on air
 

PicklesRus

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PlantBuddy(TM)

Hi

I am developing an open source automated garden system. Think of grobot but open source, less expensive and a few more features the only issue I have now is I don't know what to call it.

So, since this is a community project set to be released in april 2016, I am asking the community to name my new open source automated growing computer/project. I am having trouble finding a domain name that isn't taken or way out of my price range.

Thanks
 

PicklesRus

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PAR or LUX?

Should I be measuring PAR, LUX or both for my light readings? I might need help finding a par meter that I can hook up to a circuit that doesn't cost as much as a commercial par meter. I wanted to go with PAR originally but of the few options available online I couldn't find one cheap. .
par! I think lux was used for hid because the meters were cheaper and more widely available, but as far as I know par has always been the scientifically correct way of measuring light for plants
 

thekevin07

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both ......led market covered in par and HIDs are Lux
https://www.licor.com/env/products/light/quantum.html
ask and u shall receive ....as for cheap put that in the model 2 once china starts to make knockoffs of the orginal senor


what do u mean

unless we are going deep the best u can get on feed back is a report on
ppm starting ppm for the week
water amount added time date
ph fluxes/dose times/amounts
Co2 injections time amount result and timing until it returns to base
temp on water
temp on air
Well that gives me an idea then. That website can collect the data from everyone's black box, save and share grow programs and maybe someday integrate log data from other systems. I really want to expand on this and add in more features, again all, any ideas are encouraged especially here.

What about Automatic Garden as a name? and then i can do something like cube automatic garden or "the automatic garden" or "diy automatic garden". Garden would be the tld and automatic is the domain name. "the" or "cube" or "diy" could be the sub domain if i went that route.
 
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PicklesRus

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Herby the Hydro Garden Buddy(TM). Connect her to the internet and get access to performance data from other hydro set ups!

I think you need hydro in the name, and HydroBuddy to me sounds like exactly what it is, helps you with your hydroponic system. It's a timeless simple name that you could see in the shelf of a walmart or something

Someone used that name for a nutrient calculation app on the PC, but if it's not trademarked I'd take it and contact the guy and tell him maybe that his deal could be made part of the PC software component of your system. After all we're all trying to accomplish the same thing might as well bring two projects aiming at the same goal together,
 
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thekevin07

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What about soil? I only use them for moms, but i still use it and I will have a sensor for them eventually. All it does is plug in to the main system.

hydro garden buddy limits me to people with Undercurrents like mine and other hydro setups. Keep em coming, your on the right track but my baby gardens for you not with you.

I'm gonna owe quite a few of these systems

how is your led project coming, what if you wanted to make an expensive LED box. Do you have a parts list for that?
 
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PicklesRus

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In Mexico right now, heading home tomorrow and looking at some cabinets in the next week or two. Lots of stuff in the mail. I'm already deciding on my second setup (4 cxb3590 in a 2x2/3x3)

GardenCommander(TM)
GrowMaster9001(TM)
MicroGardener(TM)
PicoGardener(TM)
AutoGardener(TM)
AutoGarden(TM)
GrowTender(TM)
MicroGardenbot(TM)
HerbBot(TM)
 

PicklesRus

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You really wanna do something incredible? A company is developing a technology that let's plants control the amount of light. A sensor on a leaf on the plant detects some sort of energy related process inside the plant, and when it detects that there's nothing it turns the lights onto a preset start intensity, and then rechecks, and if the plant is at a suboptimal level of whatever process the sensor is reading it ups the lighting intensity another notch and then checks again and repeats until it gets to the optimal level.

I don't know what the sensor was measuring, it was some form of biological energy process in the leaves that apparently happens almost instantly when the plant is under lights. They had some form of way to determine what too much light was
 

justugh

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Well that gives me an idea then. That website can collect the data from everyone's black box, save and share grow programs and maybe someday integrate log data from other systems. I really want to expand on this and add in more features, again all, any ideas are encouraged especially here.

What about Automatic Garden as a name? and then i can do something like cube automatic garden or "the automatic garden" or "diy automatic garden". Garden would be the tld and automatic is the domain name. "the" or "cube" or "diy" could be the sub domain if i went that route.
well the orginal best grow thing was the grow a tron

your idea is to be 100% automatic .....the system do the work the person does not understand it needs

so u are really a 2 part 1 that does the growing 2nd that teaches them what they need to do
so for that i say Mr GreenThumb as it will grow anything u put in there and id correctly (then u can sell greenthumb jrs for smaller units) and Miss GreenThumb for a mothering set up (and your logo is the GreenThumb but the letters with lines u make a leaf like h and b would have a some leaf at top green )

set the programs for simple advanced and power user mode ..........when u build it and doing the test on it ....have someone Video tape u so can make a U tube channel ( when the system is doing something u explain what is it doing ....break it into section for the whole grow

and your system u should market as a complete Hydro system for any plants ( we know u are marketing to cannabis but if u include other things like tomatoes peppers
 

justugh

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oh i was thinking about what u said about linking the program to a outside server

that is actually smart idea it will allow u to update the feeds ....new stuff comes on the market the other stuff gets taken off

if the ppl want to they can op in to reporting that info u wanted along with what they are grown .......their feed plan gets logged in the system along with others and the system adjust the plans so it improves them using the experiments from all the growers Opted in

this would make a good payable service ....u know some small 10 bucks a month fee

the best part as ppl do other plants and all the strains u will in time get the perfect balance .......every grower will be just as good as the breeder
 

justugh

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if Mr GreenThumb is taken
as a logo/corp mark.........just add a z on the end Mr GreenThumbz (that should allow u to use it with out getting yelled at just make sure the logo is different enough)
 

justugh

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oh the server
for this ......u need to use one out of country ........this way the government can not hand over a warrant to u and force u to give up all the IP addies that have logged in the system

and u should LLC yourself now too so u are save from law suit .......again do what the rich asses do and file in a country where usa warrants have no real power .....just rem have bank accounts in other countries is illegal now unless dual citizenship

and do not keep large amounts in bitcoin ........silver or gold coins/ingots
 

justugh

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i just thought of something u might not have

legally as long as u alter a design of something then that something is a new product
so if u are going to copy any designs of a other system make sure u make some small fundamental changes to it
the senors and other things are listed as parts

but once u get the idea down enough u should start the Patenting ......the first step is research to see if anyone else has patented the name or design and it never made to market (u can try to buy it from them alter it and resubmit so u have both )

the cool part is once u file u are protected like u have it until they rule if it is given to u or it is rejected
 
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