National Public Radio today's installment of "All Trump Considered"

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Fogdog

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NPR All things considered Is spending the entire show on Mueller's report. List of topics below. Links are embedded in each topic so the Trump followers only need to look for the word Barr to get the information that they will want.












 
Lot's of areas that have questions left un-answered.(Trump Tower)
Trump got a break because he was the POTUS, and it would have been a Constitutional crisis if he was indicted for Fraud and Conspiracy and Obstruction, which is suggested
 
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Jimdamick said:
Lot's of areas that have questions left un-answered.(Trump Tower)
Trump got a break because he was the POTUS, and it would have been a Constitutional crisis if he was indicted for Fraud and Conspiracy and Obstruction, which is suggested
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Yeah," Trump is innocent because he didn't get indicted because the Constitution prevents it".

Way to spin it, Republicans.
 
Fogdog said:
Yeah," Trump is innocent because he didn't get indicted because the Constitution prevents it".

Way to spin it, Republicans.
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Was Mueller prohibited from concluding the President committed the crime of obstruction . . . because of a belief that he can't be indicted?

If true, the entire investigation was never intended to (and cannot) conclude that the President committed any crime? If so, that sounds like a big waste of resources.
 
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Was Mueller prohibited from concluding the President committed the crime of obstruction . . . because of a belief that he can't be indicted?
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until Trump hired corrupt attorney generals that stated publicly that a sitting DOTUS can't be indicted. acting AG rosenstein made no such statement.

mueller knew whitaker and barr would stifle his report and that's why he mentioned congress should step in to finish up the investigation.
 
rkymtnman said:
mueller knew whitaker and barr would stifle his report and that's why he mentioned congress should step in to finish up the investigation.
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I don't follow. You are saying that Mueller refused to conclude a crime had been committed because he knew Barr would not allow anyone to see that conclusion in his report?

But the report is out. Even the 10 areas of potential obstruction. And the unredacted report will be made available to certain members of Congress. There's no hiding it.
 
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I don't follow. You are saying that Mueller refused to conclude a crime had been committed because he knew Barr would not allow anyone to see that conclusion in his report?

But the report is out. Even the 10 areas of potential obstruction. And the unredacted report will be made available to certain members of Congress. There's no hiding it.
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You don’t follow much

We all get that, socko
 
pikachuriu said:
Was Mueller prohibited from concluding the President committed the crime of obstruction . . . because of a belief that he can't be indicted?

If true, the entire investigation was never intended to (and cannot) conclude that the President committed any crime? If so, that sounds like a big waste of resources.
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Why did you go to all the trouble restating what I said?

direct quotes from the report:

Mueller's reasoning, in the words of the report:

  • The Office of Legal Counsel has determined that a sitting president can't be indicted, but beyond that, "we recognized that a federal criminal accusation against a sitting President would place burdens on the President's capacity to govern and potentially preempt constitutional processes for addressing presidential misconduct."
  • Still conducted "a thorough factual investigation" given that the OLC recognized that a president "does not have immunity after he leaves office."
  • "A prosecutor's judgment that crimes were committed, but that no charges will be brought, affords no such adversarial opportunity for public name-clearing before an impartial adjudicator."
The other side:
  • "If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment."
  • "Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."


At least we agree that the Republican spin is " Trump is innocent because he didn't get indicted because the Constitution prevents it".

LOL, way to spin it boys.
 
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Fogdog said:
Why did you go to all the trouble restating what I said?

direct quotes from the report:

Mueller's reasoning, in the words of the report:

  • The Office of Legal Counsel has determined that a sitting president can't be indicted, but beyond that, "we recognized that a federal criminal accusation against a sitting President would place burdens on the President's capacity to govern and potentially preempt constitutional processes for addressing presidential misconduct."
  • Still conducted "a thorough factual investigation" given that the OLC recognized that a president "does not have immunity after he leaves office."
  • "A prosecutor's judgment that crimes were committed, but that no charges will be brought, affords no such adversarial opportunity for public name-clearing before an impartial adjudicator."
The other side:
  • "If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment."
  • "Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."


At least we agree that the Republican spin is " Trump is innocent because he didn't get indicted because the Constitution prevents it".

LOL, way to spin it boys.
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Thanks. But no mention of Mueller concluding this way because he knew Barr would hide the results. I know you didn't make that claim.
 
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