**Need education regarding cloning please**

Y0da

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So, jiffy pellets, clonex, propogator and 125w CFL or 250w HID, what temperature do clones like?
 

Sunbiz1

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I have heard cloning sativas is more difficult than indicas

what is a typical differance in sucess rates ??

Can someone do something different to sativas to help ??
I have cloned both, some strains simply take longer than others...but I have not noticed sativa as a whole being more difficult than indica.

What most do not realize about cloning is, you are making plants work in reverse while cutting off their supply of nutrients/water. Without any root structure, clones can only absorb water through leaves. This is why humidity domes are a must, and clones wilt when removed from domes too soon.

The biggest obstacle on dialing in with clones is when to remove them. There are times they must be babied, removed for a few hours and then placed back into domes. There is a learning curve on cloning, all those Youtube instructional vids fail to mention damping off as well, which will rot your stems if you leave clones in domes too long. I use those dried peat plugs known as jiffy pellets for cuttings b/c that particular brand has nutes. But it also invites fungal disease etc at 100% humidity and no air movement under domes.
 

yktind

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This is pretty close to how I do my clones.

Usually get 100%

Also, I use Tap water.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-jZvg_qCQ8

Also, @Bozo - That is a pretty cool way of taking clones. I use 2" nets pots in my aero system though So I couldn't use that unless it was going into soil. Well I suppose I could free the roots by messing with them. I just don't like upsetting the new clones.
 

justanotherbozo

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This is pretty close to how I do my clones.

Usually get 100%

Also, I use Tap water.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-jZvg_qCQ8

Also, @Bozo - That is a pretty cool way of taking clones. I use 2" nets pots in my aero system though So I couldn't use that unless it was going into soil. Well I suppose I could free the roots by messing with them. I just don't like upsetting the new clones.
...i guess the best thing about this method is it's simplicity so even a beginner can get successfully rooted clones the first time out of the box, ...it's that easy.

...another nice thing is the size of the clones you can produce although i make even bigger ones cloning directly into coco which for you wouldn't be an option but this Walmart cloner uses vermiculite as it's medium so it is easily rinsed off so the clones can be potted up into a passive system like my coco hempys or an active system like a DWC or ebb and flo.












...as you can see i'm not all that careful to get ALL of the vermiculite because i'm potting up into coco so it's not important i get it all oh and i don't see it harms my roots one iota to do this either.

...the economy is nice too because vermiculite is cheap so one $8.00 bag of vermiculite is enough for me to make a couple hundred clones, at least.

...then there is the fact that it's passive so almost completely failsafe, if you don't use any pumps then there are no pumps that can fail, lol.

anyway, i mainly advocate this method for new people because it is so simple and easy to master and once mastered, learning any other method is like falling off a log.

peace, bozo

btw, here's a shot of a couple i cloned directly into cups of coco so you can see how big these babies can be.

 

justanotherbozo

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Yeah, that's nice!

I could probably just start them in my net pots then.
...oh yeah man, you pot these up into net pots filled with something like hydroton or grorocks or even rockwool croutons and they would EXPLODE, lol, ...it cost's about $8.00 bucks to get one of those ice-tube-trays delivered from Amazon although you can get them from Walmart if you look for them for maybe $5.00, hence the name, and it'd cost about another $8.00 for a bag of vermiculite and, it you wanted, you could also add some kind of rooting hormone although they will root just fine without, ...i actually mix up some cheap Greenlight rooting powder and honey for my own version of rooting gel, lol, but for real you don't really need anything but the vermiculite.

...it's all explained in that thread i linked to where you can do enough research to see there are MANY who have used this passive wick style method for many years, ...actually, it is adapted from a thread from the old Overgrow site, ...a member saved it and passed it on and i'm grateful i found it.

...anyway, if you read that thread and you still have questions i'd be glad to try and share what i have learned over the years, ...it's pretty darned simple though so i expect if you read the instructions, which i believe are on the first page of that thread, you will have enough information to make them work.

peace, bozo
 
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