Need help with my Female in arizona

99MEAT

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Hello can anyone tell me whats going on with my plant. It's a bag seed of some bubba that i decided to plant. im in az and its outdoors she is about a month and 4 days old i am starting to see that she is a female. i had her by by a wall for the time till now. I water her twice a day in the morning and right before the sun goes down with water and 1/4 dose of super thrive to a gallon and every seven days i water with 18-18-21 tomato food my soil is organic choice by miracle grow that say it feeds up to 2 months. So about two days ago i notice my fan leaves where starting to droop. there is no sign of burn. Is it to hot out by my brick wall or am i watering her to much. Also i have top her, and a few days ago i fim her. first pic is when i thought she was doing ok and two days later is the second pic of how she looks now i moved her out of the direct sun and put her under a open patio. Will i lose here before she's finish. PLEASE HELP ME OUT!

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shagalicious

Active Member
if you only started putting her out doors, she will need time to adjust to the MASSIVE increase in
photon bombardment (sun vs indoor lights)
temperature
humidity - i assume your indoor rh is MUCH higher than out door - AZ?
new bugs
new bacterium
etc
look ver happy now
as the fans get larger and darker, move to more direct sunlight
also - in AZ with your low rh and high temps - i'd go to a 5 or 7 gallon container MINIMUM
and even a light breeze in low rh and high temps will cause HEAVY leaf stress

gl hf
 

99MEAT

Member
Thanks for the reply. she was started outdoors in march so she will do better if i put her into a 5gallon bucket? im new to this so what does rh and gl mean? and she is in a 12qt pot now which is 3 gallons i guess
 

99MEAT

Member
if you only started putting her out doors, she will need time to adjust to the MASSIVE increase in
photon bombardment (sun vs indoor lights)
temperature
humidity - i assume your indoor rh is MUCH higher than out door - AZ?
new bugs
new bacterium
etc
look ver happy now
as the fans get larger and darker, move to more direct sunlight
also - in AZ with your low rh and high temps - i'd go to a 5 or 7 gallon container MINIMUM
and even a light breeze in low rh and high temps will cause HEAVY leaf stress

gl hf
And also should i keep her in the shade out of direct sun light?
 

shagalicious

Active Member
work her into direct sunlight an hour or two at a time and yeah - i'd keep her in a BIG WET sexy pot - with lotsa perlite, you could keep her pretty wet
put her where she;ll get morning light and arount 10 or 11 move her to the shade thru hot afternnon direct overhead death rays
rh=relative humidity
gl=good luck
hf=have fun
vurry technical internetz hurr
 

99MEAT

Member
lol thanks so i should let her soil dry a bit before i take her out and put her into a 5 gallon pot. O and can i use a new 5 gallon paint bucket?
 

shagalicious

Active Member
lol thanks so i should let her soil dry a bit before i take her out and put her into a 5 gallon pot. O and can i use a new 5 gallon paint bucket?
i do - drill holes in bottom and low on the sides - but yeah - relax - she's pretty
 

99MEAT

Member
i do - drill holes in bottom and low on the sides - but yeah - relax - she's pretty
Thanks shagalicious :peace: i will let the soil dry for a day and trans plant her into a 5gallon. so i guess im doing good by what im feeding her and when i do it right?
 

GreenChile

Active Member
Your plant looks fine to me.
If you started her outside and shes been outside for a month or so, you dont need to worry about weening her into sun light.
The sun out in AZ is pretty intenese tho, and your plant is going to wilt most of the time when its in direct sunlight, because its fucking hot outside.
From my experiance, you shouldnt use miracle grow soil or fertilizer, its not really meant for cannabis and alot of times the fertilizer in miracle grow can make your plant taste bad. (The company that owns Miracle Grow and Scott is a really bad, fucked up, corporation so dont buy their products in general if you have a choice)
I believe your having heat issues and improper soil moisture issues.
If I were you, I would keep doing what your doing for a few more weeks aslong as your plants condition dosent get worse.
Then I would make an "earthbox" and transplant into that before you flower your plant. Use proper soil next time like Roots, Fertiloam, Fox Farm, etc...
 

99MEAT

Member
Your plant looks fine to me.
If you started her outside and shes been outside for a month or so, you dont need to worry about weening her into sun light.
The sun out in AZ is pretty intenese tho, and your plant is going to wilt most of the time when its in direct sunlight, because its fucking hot outside.
From my experiance, you shouldnt use miracle grow soil or fertilizer, its not really meant for cannabis and alot of times the fertilizer in miracle grow can make your plant taste bad. (The company that owns Miracle Grow and Scott is a really bad, fucked up, corporation so dont buy their products in general if you have a choice)
I believe your having heat issues and improper soil moisture issues.
If I were you, I would keep doing what your doing for a few more weeks aslong as your plants condition dosent get worse.
Then I would make an "earthbox" and transplant into that before you flower your plant. Use proper soil next time like Roots, Fertiloam, Fox Farm, etc...
so i'm giving it to much water? and im starting to see hairs coming on all 8 tops so should i continue to give it the 18-18-21 at 1 tbls to the gallon and 1/4 teaspoon of super thrive for now all my stuff came from home depot i guess that's were i messed up at! and whats a earth box, and should i not water her for a day or two i picked her up she's a little heavy
 

99MEAT

Member
and should i also keep feeding super thrive every time i water is that ok for her or should it be plain water explain please this my first grow as my next should be better with some info under my belt thanks:joint:
 

cannofbliss

Well-Known Member
Hello can anyone tell me whats going on with my plant. It's a bag seed of some bubba that i decided to plant. im in az and its outdoors she is about a month and 4 days old i am starting to see that she is a female. i had her by by a wall for the time till now. I water her twice a day in the morning and right before the sun goes down with water and 1/4 dose of super thrive to a gallon and every seven days i water with 18-18-21 tomato food my soil is organic choice by miracle grow that say it feeds up to 2 months. So about two days ago i notice my fan leaves where starting to droop. there is no sign of burn. Is it to hot out by my brick wall or am i watering her to much. Also i have top her, and a few days ago i fim her. first pic is when i thought she was doing ok and two days later is the second pic of how she looks now i moved her out of the direct sun and put her under a open patio. Will i lose here before she's finish. PLEASE HELP ME OUT!

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lol i think every suburb in az has like that same rocks and brick wall in their backyards lol just sayin ;)

you'll have to keep them shaded and to be honest dude its gonna be way too hot for them in summer especially in the az valley ;)
 

cannofbliss

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your best option is to keep them in breathable soil mixed with about 20-30 % perlite... cause it looks like you got that barky and heavy soil and most plants like cannabis dont do well in it...

and your gonna have to keep them cool... with shade...

imo... i wouldnt try and flower them during the summer, so your best bet is to try and see them on through the summer till sept then when it gets cooler then if you want to force flowering just bring em inside and keep the light off of them for at least 11-12 hrs out of the day while giving them 12-13 hrs of light or whichever will induce and sustain flowering...
 

99MEAT

Member
so how do i do that and its in a pot already? dry it out and put it into a bigger pot with more perlite mixed with the soil i have :?: changing soil is bad right could shock her right. and as far as me flowering her in the summer i don't think i have control on that she stay's and always been outside since birth... but i noticed were the new growth from my fim attempt last week has white hairs coming out so that means she starting to flower right?
 

cannofbliss

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so how do i do that and its in a pot already? dry it out and put it into a bigger pot with more perlite mixed with the soil i have :?: changing soil is bad right could shock her right. and as far as me flowering her in the summer i don't think i have control on that she stay's and always been outside since birth... but i noticed were the new growth from my fim attempt last week has white hairs coming out so that means she starting to flower right?

well yeah if little white hairs, so if she is getting 12 hours of darkness each night then yeah it'll flower, but as the days get longer it might and probably will revegitate... as in revert back to growing leaves and grow bigger vs. growing flowers...

no u dont have to dry it out silly just when u transplant or repot it to a bigger container just mix it all in, in that new container... ;)

u dont need to change soil just yet, just when transplanting it is better to do it now while your nights are cooler say in the mid 60's vs. waiting to transplant later when its 115 outside during the day or 95 at night... ;)

transplanting doesnt cause shock or anything terrible its no biggie... just hold the stem between your fingers like a cig and secure it then flip upside down while your hand makes the palm to hold in the topsoil together...

then have your other container ready with the mix filled up enough to have the ball of dirt your plants roots are formed in and then place it in new container fill in edges... pick up new container from sides... drop gently down on cement while holding sides to give it that packed in then fill in till up to stem level then water... let dry a bit till slightly droopy and dry soil a few inches on top then rinse and repeat all the way through its life...

pretty simple... ;)
 

99MEAT

Member
Sounds like a plan will do it this evening if possible thanks again everyone who help me out will post more pic as i go:leaf:
 

99MEAT

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just put her into a 5 gal bucket with a nice amount of holes drilled into the bottom for drainage i notice the roots were all over the place, sides and the bottom had the most that my eye could see as it was getting dark. is that normal for the roots to be all over the place and a lot of them being cluttered together at the bottom of my old pot that she was in which was a 3gallon?
 

cannofbliss

Well-Known Member
just put her into a 5 gal bucket with a nice amount of holes drilled into the bottom for drainage i notice the roots were all over the place, sides and the bottom had the most that my eye could see as it was getting dark. is that normal for the roots to be all over the place and a lot of them being cluttered together at the bottom of my old pot that she was in which was a 3gallon?
yep... its a good sign when you have a well developed root system, as that means much better distributive access to nutes in the soil... ;)

i always like to say... to grow lots of big flowers you need a well developed root system...;)

when they clump and circle the bottom, it just means that they had no where else to go but to clutter and circle around the container, rather than down and out... AND or thats where most of the water was... roots grow to seek water and nutrients, so if the "very bottom" of the container had the most amount of water... thats where they'll be...
 

99MEAT

Member
how long will it take for my plant to perk back up? here is a pic of it. Note that i re potted it last night into this 5gallon bucket with drain holes drilled on the bottom. The first pot was a 3 gallon for a month and 4 days the roots where all together at the bottom of the 3gallon pot. was i suppose to brake up the soil that the plant was in around the roots or just take it out of the old pot and put in the new pot with extra soil at the bottom and around it did i do this right? And also like in my first post should i keep giving her the 18-18-21 fertz along with the super thrive or just plain water till she gets better?

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