I'm really trying to get the most bang for my buck on theses small cfls I see but having trouble deciding my best route I'm going to use cfl for now because it's my first indoor veg I wanted to just grad a hps /mh but my budgets real tight and I'm a rookie if you could please help it would be awesome .i want to grow about three nice size plants I will be using lst/super croping and maybe a scrog the gentics will be one auto ..advanced biodiesel and one white widow x big bud (shud I use this strian on cfls or not to be wasted) there from female seeds and ill throw in a bag seed for fun I have a hole house so it doesn't matter where it is located would like some suggestions I will also be using 5 gal pots with the cheapest soil I can get so please feel free to help me out and suggest other stuff thanks
Need some help on small cfls from hardware stores
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MMMLawIsGrand
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Im getting ready to grow some Advanced Biodiesel in a dwc system. So far I havent gotten the best feedback but I do know for veg use 5000k-6500k CFL's and for flowering you use the 2500k CFL's. I went cheap and used the 23 watters from Home depot im using 6 5000k and 2 2500k giving off 12800 lumens in a 3x2 foot closet. I also have 2 t5 sunblasters that im gonna figure out how to place. I want to have a scrog setup if at all possible maybe a vertical scrog system. Have you started your setup at all?
loquacious
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Get these bulbs - http://www.homedepot.com/p/TCP-68-Watt-300W-Soft-White-CFL-Light-Bulb-28968RP/100676712?N=1z0ykpb#.Ufp7WdK1Ewk
Use these splitters - http://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-660-Watt-Keyless-Twin-Socket-Lamp-Holder-Adapter-R52-00128-00W/100356967#.Ufp75tK1Ewk
These reflectors or make your own - http://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-300-Watt-Incandescent-Brooder-Clamp-Light-CE-303PDQ/100354517#.Ufp8JNK1Ewk
For three plants I would use three light setups (6 bulbs) and it will cost a little under 100.00
Use these splitters - http://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-660-Watt-Keyless-Twin-Socket-Lamp-Holder-Adapter-R52-00128-00W/100356967#.Ufp75tK1Ewk
These reflectors or make your own - http://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-300-Watt-Incandescent-Brooder-Clamp-Light-CE-303PDQ/100354517#.Ufp8JNK1Ewk
For three plants I would use three light setups (6 bulbs) and it will cost a little under 100.00
MMMLawIsGrand
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I didnt see those bulbs at home depot but im about to look right this very minute. i did just buy those splitters that you posted though and they worked great. Turned my 4 light setup into 8 instantly.
MMMLawIsGrand
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i was looking for these bulbs when i went to home depot. i heard they had amazing results.View attachment 2758806
MMMLawIsGrand
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But wouldnt you want to use those lights for flowering and not vegging?
loquacious
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Those can only be bought in hydro shops, Home Depot does not sell them.
loquacious
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They work great for veg and flower!
Sunbiz1
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I have 2 of those 68 watters, they take up way too much room to justify the extra 28 watts or so.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/EcoSmart-42-Watt-150W-Soft-White-CFL-Light-Bulb-1-Pack-E-ES5M842/202067799?N=1z0ykpc#.UfpyEqzRLA0
Those are much smaller and more efficient.
No I really haven't started it yet and isn't it tru the higher the k on the bulbs the better for flowering and also will 12 28 watts be good for three low plants because I doubt I will use it to flower anyway since I'm just using the cfl for veg but I wanna start it now can I start the seedlings under 3 13 waters and just add as I go because those are the only ones I got now
Sunbiz1
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Start with daylight or 6500K then add soft white or 2700K to flower. Yes, a dozen will work for 3 plants...I'd buy 6 of each.
MMMLawIsGrand
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I dont think thats true at all I think but im not a expert at all but i think the higher the K the better it is for veg not flowering I was under the assumption you want blue for veg like the daylight CFL then the reds for flowering like Soft while 2500 CFL's I might be wrong though.
MMMLawIsGrand
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Well some clarification will definately make me change up my lights. I know my 2500 have a reddish color and my daylights are just that bright daylight looking lights giving off the same color as my T5's do. I read a good Tut check it out if you havent already and you can tell the difference in the colors.
https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-fluorescent-lighting/107992-tutorial-growing-cfls.html
MMMLawIsGrand
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Better yet I know of lot of folks read this so I'll cut the middle man for the lazy folks
Color Temperature
You might see a lot of different labels when shopping at the store for CFL’s. Label’s including Soft White, Warm White, Cool White, Bright White, Halogen White, Daylight White, Full Spectrum. And also label’s like 2700K, 3000K, 3500K, 4000K, 5000K, 6400K, and 6500K. These are all the color temperature of the light you are using. This is a measure of how warm or cool the light given off by a lamp appears, with warmer colors having a yellowish tinge and cooler colors being tinged with blue. What confuses some people is that the warmer a color is, the colder its color temperature is. (ex. Warm White = 2700K). Bulbs ranging in the 2700K-3000K spectrum are usually labeled Warm White or Soft White, bulbs ranging in the 3500K – 4000K spectrum are bright white or cool white, 5000K is labeled Full Spectrum, and finally 6400K – 6500K is labeled Daylight. You can grow an entire crop with CFL’s if you chose the right spectrum of bulb’s. For Vegetation you will want to use 6500K or 5000K, and when you flower you will want to switch to 2700K or 3000K . The reason being, throughout the year the plant’s outside receive more 6500K light because the day’s in summer are long and hot and as Autumn/Winter get’s closer the day get’s shorter, and gradually receives less 6500K light and more 2700K light as the plant flower’s. Do what you can to avoid bulbs within that 3500K – 4000K because they emit very little light that Is useful to your plant. Notice here the difference between the CT of these lamp’s
Color Temperature
You might see a lot of different labels when shopping at the store for CFL’s. Label’s including Soft White, Warm White, Cool White, Bright White, Halogen White, Daylight White, Full Spectrum. And also label’s like 2700K, 3000K, 3500K, 4000K, 5000K, 6400K, and 6500K. These are all the color temperature of the light you are using. This is a measure of how warm or cool the light given off by a lamp appears, with warmer colors having a yellowish tinge and cooler colors being tinged with blue. What confuses some people is that the warmer a color is, the colder its color temperature is. (ex. Warm White = 2700K). Bulbs ranging in the 2700K-3000K spectrum are usually labeled Warm White or Soft White, bulbs ranging in the 3500K – 4000K spectrum are bright white or cool white, 5000K is labeled Full Spectrum, and finally 6400K – 6500K is labeled Daylight. You can grow an entire crop with CFL’s if you chose the right spectrum of bulb’s. For Vegetation you will want to use 6500K or 5000K, and when you flower you will want to switch to 2700K or 3000K . The reason being, throughout the year the plant’s outside receive more 6500K light because the day’s in summer are long and hot and as Autumn/Winter get’s closer the day get’s shorter, and gradually receives less 6500K light and more 2700K light as the plant flower’s. Do what you can to avoid bulbs within that 3500K – 4000K because they emit very little light that Is useful to your plant. Notice here the difference between the CT of these lamp’s
MMMLawIsGrand
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Your outdoor ladies look awesome too. Ive never grown outdoors id like to see your finished results.