need sum help please thanks

401bigsm0ke

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just got mmj card my plan is to grow 10 to 12 auto flowers got 5ftx5ftx78inches tall tent 4 ft 8 bulb hydrofarm t5 lights for first two to three weeks then got digi ballast 1000 watt hps cool tube with 6 inch filter with duct fan 440 cfm how much should i expect to yield will this plan be good any opnions???
 

deadgro

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Between 5 and 20 ounces depending on your skills, medium, nutrients, temperatures, genetics, etc.
 

justugh

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@401bigsm0ke
T5 light only 12 oz 1 oz per plant

1000w hps will increase to a base of 2 oz and as skills increase and if u picked the right genetics (some autos are designed to get a max 50 grams others 350 gram) i normally did 8 oz a plant off a 1000w but this is 3rd year

if u are doing this the first time
do soil growing (more forgiving then hydro) ....buy fox farms ocean forest,,,,or black gold organic
do Organic feeds (look up "GO Box" amazon)

order yourself some Pipettes 1 mls and 3 mls get the 500 count last u 2/3 years (makes mixing feed super easy)

the soil i told u is fairly good long time use in this .......the feed system is organic this will help keep the plants soil in PH balance (less issues for starting)
fallow the feed plan on the side of the box ........they are telling u the mix for 1 gallon ...........what ever u do not use u get rid off it will not hold over night little things grow inside
 
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401bigsm0ke

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i got five royal queen northern lights, five pryamid white widow autos, five pryamid anesthsia and 1 kritikal bilbo all autos r these sum good seed genetics??
was thinking of using coco coir get sum fox farm coco loco with sum perlite. im going to prob use all five royal queens 3 ww and 3 anesthsia and the kritikal bilbo. oh and r you talking about general hydro ponics go grow box? r those go boxes enough nutes for me to use for 12 plants for the whole grow? im new to growing, ive done alot of research and did one cfl grow with bag seeds nd no nutes. so will 60x60 grow tent b big enough to fit 12 autos in and what size pots should i use?? o and last i got heating mat with propogation tray/dome i know its not good to transplant autos so should i not use propogation and just grow them from seed in 3 gallon pots thru whole grow ?

@justugh or if any1 else gots any input thanks
 

justugh

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@401bigsm0ke
http://en.seedfinder.eu/strain-info/Northern_Light_Automatic/Royal_Queen_Seeds/
100-200 grams

http://en.seedfinder.eu/strain-info/Auto_White_Widow/Pyramid_Seeds/
listed as 500 grams

http://en.seedfinder.eu/strain-info/Auto_Anesthesia/Pyramid_Seeds/
listed 550 grams

last one i could not find in the data base
as for the soil u can use just the fox farms ocean forest (or black gold) just use out of the bag in the planter
planters i like the soil bags it makes over watering almost impossible and flushing super easy

1 yes this
http://www.amazon.com/General-Hydroponics-Organics-Go-Box/dp/B004PS4B08/ just amazon it with some pipettes
2 yes more then enough u are only using maybe 5 mls every other watering
3 no the tent size is way off for plants of this size and the numbers u are talking of running

ok for plants that are 120 grams and under a 3 gallon pot is good ..........for plants larger then that u want atleast 5 gallon if not a 7 gallon soil bag
http://www.amazon.com/Breathable-Fabric-Aeration-Nusery-Handles/dp/B004X74FCA/
http://www.amazon.com/ViagrowTM-gallon-Fabric-Aeration-Pots/dp/B0099U5ZG6/
http://www.amazon.com/ViagrowTM-Gallon-Fabric-Aeration-Pots/dp/B009ABX6RE/
they were out of 7 gallons so 10 gallons is the next best thing

now u can use one of those jiffy greenhouse plug things and then put the plug into the first/final bag the plant is in for whole life .......this is what i do personally i use the top of my t5 light to start the plants (trick i know is get a small cup and fill it with seltzer water and add it into the dome right before u cap it)

the domes are tricky u do not want to much water in the bottom and not to little the water in the cup will not go anywhere but will release the Co2 into the dome helping the plant i have spourts in 3 days


ok a 4x4 then u can need to figure the plant needs room to grow and bush out to make buds ........the smaller plants the ones under 120 grams u can do about 5 good plants under a 1000w ......now the larger ones are that larger in a 10 gallon bag the roots and should spread out and really get in there allowing u to water a whole gallon at a time giving it plenty of water and food so u can only do 1 really good one maybe 2 decent ones with 1 small one
 

justugh

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the amount of buds is directly linked to the size of the roots/amount of feed/amount of water

as u are starting u can figure at least 2 oz off the first seed and 3 to 4 ozs off the 2/3 seeds

here is how to start it
when u get the go box it has rooting ........u want 1/2 a ml of rooting mixed into 2 cups of water .......soak the plugs in that 45 mins in a bowl ....take them out and lightly squeeze them 3 times to get some water out .....use a pen cap (the prong) poke into the plug make a hole......look at the seed fun the pointy end and bulby end ........put the seed in the plug with the pointy end up (u can use the 1 ml pipette to push down)........now the left over water u take some and add it to dome not much just at the 4 corners ........put the plugs in the middle (to label them get a toothpick and masking tape make little flag on toothpick write name or something down on it put in plug) ........take a small cup (something that fits in dome) add seltzer water to it put it in corner) now take the lid and a smoke on one side of the lid make 1 small round hole (cig sized is perfect) clean it up and then place the lid on with the whole as far away from the seltzer water as u can (this lets the water release the co2 and push out the oxygen with out popping the lid).....if u got more 4 cups 1 ml 6 cups 1 1/2mls ......u want the water temp to be mid 70s not hot not cold

put it on something warm (i have 2foot 8 bulb t5 that is sits one ) ..........now for 3 days u must leave it alone u should see sprouts out the top .....if not u can carefully crack the plug and look at the seed it might just need little help ...........if one seed has popped and others not get the one that has out plant it in planter put under the light .........dump the little cup out refill and cap come back in 2 days (any time u open that dome u replace the seltzer water)

i only failed 7 times ....3 times due to bad seeds (the breeder supplied new ones) and 4 due to much heat they basically cooked ...starting my 3rd year lost track on the numbers of grown in soil

after that it is just feeding and watering

seedling only give it 2 cups of water / feed until u see it getting big as it does increase the amount of water/feed .........your plant will flip into flowering at this time u want to water the whole planter (not a flush but a watering until it leaks out ) at that point the roots will do there bloom under the soil as the plant above is stretching and making bud sites

here is some personal info on soil bags ....when the bags are 100% dry and plants droop from need of watering
3 gallon soil bag will only hold 1/2 gallon of water at that point will leak out of those bags
5 gallon is just shy of 1 gallon
7 gallon can take 1 gallon no trouble
a 10 gallon bag u do not need to fill up 100% shoot for 7/8 gallons and use 1 gallon of water

after u get this and a understanding of the plant/strains a mix of Chemical feeds and Organic feeds will get u better results but that is something to move into once u got organics under belt

now your plant will do doing well and look great if u want u can up the feed just little bit ......each time u do watch the tips of the leaves if they do not get a little burnt/fried looking u can up it little more ....when u see the tips get a little burnt back the feed down to what u were giving right before u sawl the burn .........u have just maximized the feed for that plant this will increase the buds and weight .....what u sawl on the tips is call Nutrient burn it comes from to strong of a feed this is how u know u maxed out that plants feed ........not all plants are the same the roots are different so each one only intakes and uses so much so u have to tweak for each plant........this is only during flowering stage tho

watering is when u see the leaves droopy ....once u know the pattern just give it the water right before it would need it
feeding u need to do every other one so water feed water feed water feed .....this allows u to see the reactions

this is to help u it is a nice little program made for growing ..........they just added a strain library on it so it will have the same info/breeder info released/ as the web sites
https://herbiq.codeplex.com/releases

get the 0.7.0 install and run it then get the 0.7.8 and update it ..........it can help u keep track of time and it gives u a place to keep info and other things so when u tweak and get it down u have something to refer too if u do not do strain again for while

i grow autos .......and i cycle my strains .........your t5 light use that to start your plants when they get that 2nd set of leaves on them move them to a 1000w MH bulb when they show signs of flowering change the bulb to a 1000w HPS run them like that

time table 20 hours on 4 off gets me good results
 
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401bigsm0ke

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thanks for all the info. so r you saying that i shouldnt just start them in 3 gallon pot under t5 so i dont have to stress autos at all?? and another so r you saying i can only fit 5 in a 4x4 so can i fit at least 10 plants ina 5x5 tent under 1000 watts? sorry just tryna get a better understanding how many autos i can fit ina 5x5 tent
thanks
 

justugh

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thanks for all the info. so r you saying that i shouldnt just start them in 3 gallon pot under t5 so i dont have to stress autos at all?? and another so r you saying i can only fit 5 in a 4x4 so can i fit at least 10 plants ina 5x5 tent under 1000 watts? sorry just tryna get a better understanding how many autos i can fit ina 5x5 tent
thanks
no fucking way u can get 10 in a 5x5.......the plants will fight each other for the light lowering the over all amount they make per plant

a 3 gallon plant think 1x1 foot square (really 18 inches x 18 inches)..........those are the small plants 120 grams or under
a 5/7/10 gallon plant think 2x2 feet square (really 2.5x2.5 feet)..........are large plants they grow up and out 120 grams or higher plants

planting a large plant in a small planter is crazy ......u have just limited the amount of buds it can make (the roots are small so they can not intake all they want plus the amount of water is limited)....it is not worth it

auto plants are self timed at a set point the genetics of the plant say ok i am done growing time to die off ........so u only get that limited amount of time to grow it big make bud sites then thicken them up before the plant goes time to die
 
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