New Beginnings for Massachussetts and I
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be4meliz
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Collect water that runs off(excess) and check PH- PPM / ec can be checked with cheap Hanna meter(Get the digital) w/digi calibration.It measures parts per million/ electro conductivity- lets you know(1) disolved solids in your water( if not using RO) Subtract figure from total = nutrients used- So if your water starts at 100 ppm and you add nutrients and it = 800, then your nute level=700
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Was planning on chopping Tues.- Plan B- went to water and tops are so heavy, they are tilting 12+ gal. res.-pulling 6" netpots out of holders- being a Native Texan transplant(since 90) I lassoed them and tied to tent poles!!! YEE-HAW! Gonna claim a day off- and chop & Trim-(meanwhile my new girls have taken over my 2 by 4 Tent- What Am I DOING wrong??? These Bitches can't be TRAINED( No offense to Lady growers)- Will get back to you with wet/dry weight, but if I don't hit a LB. for these 4, I'll be surprised. Have at least 10 coke cans running 7-10" , plus 30+ avg. 4-6", not to mention to many popcorns to count.And after lasso trick and rearranging cannot pry fingers apart easily(think Super Glue) STICKY AND DANK! GET HER DONE!! Trim party, Anyone?
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Are you using good organic nutrients and soil?
Unless you were trying to diagnose some troubles you should not have to worry about ppm/EC. With good soil buffering your nutrients, you shouldn't have to worry about pH either. The only time I had trouble with my soil was when I let the nutrients run out. pH rose and I ended up with some lockout.
This is what I have been told by many.
I didn't even touch my ppm meter ($15) till I started with non organic nutes.
I only started non organics because I underfed my plants so much they didn't have time to break down the organic ones.
Some grow boss can correct me if I'm wrong.
JustCallmeMom
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I have Wilma in half happy frog, half roots organics. Since I saw a little leaf burn a few days ago I am not adding nutes or anything. I do have FF grow big, earthworm castings tea and liquid seaweed in the cabinet, but not using them. I'm going to just use plain water her next few waters....and if I see deficiencies, then I will add what she needs. I will use FF Tiger bloom when she shows signs of flowering.
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My WW auto was in roots organic+25℅ growstones in a 5gal pot. 1000w hps light. It was happy with just water till week 4. At that point I should have given her some veg nutes. I didn't and she lost a lot of yellow leaves. If I was you, I would start light feedings of veg nutes at week 4 at the latest. Here is a pic of mine when I should have started feedings.
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Hiya sine143. Welcome to the thread.
HideousPenguinBoy
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So, I put plastic in the trays I built and re-potted the toddlers into 5 gallon airpots. As well, I figured out the damn problems with my drivers and have them all running at 1050mA now. (used a bunch of old resistors I had from school to dim them down, and in the future I'll make some kinda dimming panel with potentiometers) Then I cut some more reclaimed 2x4's in half, drilled holes, fit PVC pipe I had scavenged a while ago, added a bunch of 1" screws every 4", and strung her up. I made it 5" too short because dumb and my tallest plant was in quarantine for possible aphids, but I put it up on scrap blocks to fix it. Flowering started yesterday.
So now it's all set up and I can stop building... no wait. I still need to make a DIY far red light bar and a DIY air scrubber. And start a new smaller batch of babies. And get a raspberry pi to get a environmental control unit going. (damn these wild temp changes)
So now it's all set up and I can stop building... no wait. I still need to make a DIY far red light bar and a DIY air scrubber. And start a new smaller batch of babies. And get a raspberry pi to get a environmental control unit going. (damn these wild temp changes)
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That's my bad. I saw the pic and thought they were in regular water jugs cut in half. Wasn't until I went back a few more pages I saw the actual pouches. Just trying to look out.Ummmmm ... that sort of defeats the whole principle of air pruning doesn't it? Root Pouches are pretty thick ... I don't think there's much risk, but thanks for the thought
Bosgrower
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No problem ... better safe than sorry. And welcome to the thread. Introduce yourself ... we're a nosy bunchThat's my bad. I saw the pic and thought they were in regular water jugs cut in half. Wasn't until I went back a few more pages I saw the actual pouches. Just trying to look out.
WeedFreak78
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Vermiculite sucks, imo, holds too much water. When I ran it at around your rates my soil took forever to dry out sometimes over a week before I could water again, I was in 10-20 gal containers, but that's was still too much time between waterings. I like my medium to go almost completely dry between waterings. Just switching to perlite had it dry in 5 days max. I trying rice hulls now, but my base mix and volumes have changed , so I can't say how they compare. Supposedly aerate just as well, don't hold as much moisture, possibly deter insects, and don't have the ecological effects of perlite/ vermiculite.
JustCallmeMom
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Anyone familiar with using FFOF & FFHF? I am going to use a ½-½ mixture in a 3 gallon pot for my next lady. Also going to add about 30% perlite.
From your experience, do you recommend anything else be added to the medium right from the get go such as: worm castings, coffee grounds, epsom salts, etc? Or are OF and HF fine by themselves? (I have no idea what is "hot" and what is not. Well, in the cannabis world at least!)
What I plan on doing is filling a 3 gallon pot with the OF/HF/Perlite mixture. Then make a solo cup impression sized in the middle where I will plant the seed, and filling that hole with just HF. Then as she gets older her roots will search out the richer soil.
From your experience, do you recommend anything else be added to the medium right from the get go such as: worm castings, coffee grounds, epsom salts, etc? Or are OF and HF fine by themselves? (I have no idea what is "hot" and what is not. Well, in the cannabis world at least!)
What I plan on doing is filling a 3 gallon pot with the OF/HF/Perlite mixture. Then make a solo cup impression sized in the middle where I will plant the seed, and filling that hole with just HF. Then as she gets older her roots will search out the richer soil.
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Bosgrower
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Your next project will be a hubbabubbasmelloscope auto if memory serves ... so here's what I suggest. Use 50% FFOF, 25% Roots Organics potting soil, 25% perlite. If you're worried about hot soil for the seedling, after you fill the pot, make a solo cup impression and fill it with FFHF to plant your rooted seed.
I will now retire to the space under my desk until the flames subside
HideousPenguinBoy
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I cleverly used a mix of HF/OF/perlite 40/40/20 in half my pots and then did a HF/Perlite 80/20 on the top half and OF/perlite 80/20 in the bottom half. That way I could see what they liked better. Then I not so cleverly didn't keep track. ):
JustCallmeMom
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That is exactly what I was going to do. But I ran out of roots organics, so was going to mix some OF I have here with the Happy Frog and perlite. make a little solo cup impression in the middle and fill it with just Happy Frog. YEP....hubbabubba next. If she ever gets here!!!Your next project will be a hubbabubbasmelloscope auto if memory serves ... so here's what I suggest. Use 50% FFOF, 25% Roots Organics potting soil, 25% perlite. If you're worried about hot soil for the seedling, after you fill the pot, make a solo cup impression and fill it with FFHF to plant your rooted seed.
I will now retire to the space under my desk until the flames subside
Dont need all the amendments folks talk about...epsom salts, etc?...
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JustCallmeMom
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that sounds EXACTLY like something I would do. I just blame it on having a "blonde moment"
Bosgrower
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Just for the record, there are lots of grows in pure FFOF without any amendments. If you're out of Roots, just use the FFOF. I'm not sure you really need to lighten it up, but I would suggest you add 1/2" of food grade diatomacious earth to the top of the soil to protect against beasties that might be waiting to hatch. FFOF has some issues with insects on board and the diatomacious earth is inert to the soil and basically cuts them up as they try to pass through.