NEW Closet Set Up for L.E.D. Stealth Grow

luckyskindaguy said:

Not sure why you planted all your seeds? You had the LED too close to the seedlings and were afraid they were going to die. Look at it this way, you have more moms to choose from!!

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I wasn't planning on cloning the tops either, but hey, now I have 4 clones in the propagator now too, and 5 new seedlings... I hate to toss anything out....

I'll get you guys some new pics when the topping shows results.

Serapis, did you read my comments about keeping the Veg leaves? They work great for using to make butter!

I haven't started yet, caue when I clone tops, I'm only getting two 5 point fan leaves per plant, but yes, I need to start saving them. I have a mini fridge I need to move back into my bedroom so I can store the clippings.

Serapis said:

I haven't started yet, caue when I clone tops, I'm only getting two 5 point fan leaves per plant, but yes, I need to start saving them. I have a mini fridge I need to move back into my bedroom so I can store the clippings.

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Dry your trimmings. all leaf by-products starts dry.

WattSaver said:

Dry your trimmings. all leaf by-products starts dry.

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Yep, and for long storage, freeze them.

Serapis said:

Yep, and for long storage, freeze them.

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Never figured out the shelf life, I just love my bedtime brownies.

Not only is this an amazing grow, With those led lights its a PERFECT RAVE room!

Serapis i've just made it to the current portion of your grow. You have one hell of a closet setup. Kudos on the design. Any recent pics? I noticed your temps were at 84f and you are running leds only... what is the ambient temp in the room your intake pulls from? I am running a 400w MH in a small closet and never hit more than 80. I'm typically in the 76-78 range during the peak of the day. I'm just curious how your temps are as high as they are with you running leds along with an intake/exhaust system in place.

You made mention of being particularly careful in regards to the FLIR packing helicopters? For one, Coming onto a site posting pictures of your grow op would be more self incriminating than a helicopter spotting your 90 degree closet which could easily be viewed as a hot water heater or other small heat emitting appliance. Numerous cases have proven that they are looking for much larger setups that cannot be mistaken for anything other than a large room(s) of concentrated heat that would resemble a grow op. I'm not posting this to be rude in anyway, but rather shed some light (no pun intended) on this issue. Watts are watts whether it be from leds or hids.

In the summer, our average temperature is near 100 degrees. My house thermo is set for 80 during the day. The intake pulls from a room that has a window AC and that room is kept at 77.

FLIR wasn't on the top of my list of concerns, heat and power usage were. Heat in sense of the closet getting hot. I could have easily vented to attic, however power consumption was really my top priority.

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These guys are starting to get big for the pots.They handled their first nutes well as you can see in the pics. Runt is really taking off, she is plant number 1. I have cloned all 5 tops and they are looking extremely well. Runt's clone has been under the dome now for about a week, still no signs of roots, but she is using her big fans to feed herself.

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They are looking great. I anticipate having to repot them by next weekend.

Man those are looking amazing. What size are those square pots and where did you get them? I've wanted to get some square ones because the round ones have so much wasted space vs a square one.

The pots are 6.25" x 6.25" and 8" deep. My thoughts on purchasing 18 of the was SOG, but now that I plan on scrogging, I'm going to need pots about twice that size. The pots were NOT easy to find. Everyone sells round ones. BG Hydro was the store. Just did an internet order and they shipped. They also have the new 7" propagator dome with adjustable vents.

Pot's were $1.39 ea. They are great size for vegging. The deep pot sets up an excellent root system. I wanted square for same reason. Once I read Rosenthall's comments on square pots, I just had to have them.

Serapis said:

I wanted square for same reason. Once I read Rosenthall's comments on square pots, I just had to have them.

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Do explain =D

Square pots do not leave any wasted space in the drip trays. If you use round pots, you lose the space between the pots for roots. Square pots are more efficient with the space.

given the investment you have made with the LED's for lighting how long would you say it would take for it to pay off, whether it's just for persaonal use or as a care giver or what ever?
I ask because that is a lot of cash to put up front. Actually I am more interested in the results than how much the upfront costs were.

square anything is more efficient than round. Coca cola is switching to square cans soon. Less materials for amount of liquid, they're stackable, and is going to save space (and money) in shipment. I'm using square pots also, great buy!

WWShadow said:

given the investment you have made with the LED's for lighting how long would you say it would take for it to pay off, whether it's just for persaonal use or as a care giver or what ever?
I ask because that is a lot of cash to put up front. Actually I am more interested in the results than how much the upfront costs were.

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I'm not an accountant, so I really have no idea. consider this though; the closet has a singe light socket with a pull chain. I'm drawing ALL of my power from that single socket. I couldn't do that with hid lamps. I would need to run a dedicated circuit. My panel is about 90' from where service is needed, so figure the cost of that copper at 12 gauge plus a new breaker at around $45. Then you have to consider the power to run the lights. I'm generating PAR equivalent to about 1200 hid watts, yet I'm only using 296w. I also don't need to vent a lot of heat out of the closet.

In power alone, I'm guessing the lights pay for themselves after about 4-5 grows, so about a year. This grow and all others are personal. I have no intent to distribute or traffic. I plan to smoke every bit while waiting for the next grow.

Actually a sphere encloses the most volume of any shape, with the least about of surface exposure. But that's not the point with pots. I had not read Ed's comment about the square pots; it just made sense to me. Thanks for the info Serapis; I'll be ordering some of those.

$1.39 ea is a bargain! And I love the fact they are soooooo deep. I think some would call them orchid pots or bulb pots. I know the roots in MJ love deep soil. I read somewhere that the longer the tap root can grow, the higher the yield. I guess it has to do with water and nute intakes.

Serapis said:

I plan to smoke every bit while waiting for the next grow.

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And if you can't smoke it all, you just have to try harder - everything takes effort