stawawager
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On lower third new growth is yellow,
is that a starving girl?
is that a starving girl?
New growth yellow
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Farmer's Hat
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How recent is that? Could we see a full pic of the whole plant? It looks pretty big.
Ive noticed a similar thing with some plants, when the lower growth is shaded and doesn't receive a lot of light.
stawawager
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There are 4 of them In a 25 gallon pot.
I was running about 740 PPM but I JUST checked it after seeing the yellow and it came in at 560 ppm so I increase the 5 ml to 9 ml nutes and now it's at 740 ppm. Might add another 2 ml next watering shooting for between
900 and 1000.Yea, they're not getting much light. Maybe I should just wack them.
Farmer's Hat
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Damn. Those are big girls. I would definitely prune off the lower growth, and bend down the main branches as much as possible. Looks like they still have some flex in them. The idea is to have an even canopy that is lower to the base, before flowering.
Unless these are your mothers. Their enormous for indoor plants. LOL!
stawawager
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I'm definitely working on it - bending and trimming. I'll get more aggressive.
"Even canopy" was the plan but 2 of them were half as tall in the beginning as the other and I don't have that technique mastered yet.
Next time I'll just grow 2 in the tub and construct a wire lattice over the top. I need to top them a lot sooner too.
Thanks for taking a look.
Farmer's Hat
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Just keep doing your thing. They look healthy and strong. A little pruning wont stress them very much.
Good luck with the grow.
MickFoster
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I hope you don't plan on flowering them in that space. If you think things are tight now.........just wait.
Good luck.
Good luck.
GreenGenez421
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Yeah, the plant is most likely cannibalizing the lowers. With that being said, they should (if cloned) throw roots fairly fast. Excessive Nitrogen inhibits rooting speed. You can always foliar them if need be.
Aside from that, I don't see anything wrong with your grow aside from vertical space. If you plan to flower out, prune them down, reduce light distance or increase power (whatever is applicable durring the transition of hormones redirection) and add 1-2 weeks to the veg phase. Then flip. Safe to assume they'll at least double in height.
Aside from that, I don't see anything wrong with your grow aside from vertical space. If you plan to flower out, prune them down, reduce light distance or increase power (whatever is applicable durring the transition of hormones redirection) and add 1-2 weeks to the veg phase. Then flip. Safe to assume they'll at least double in height.
Drop That Sound
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If there is 4 plants in that pot, you should be able to carefully bend all 4 of the main stalks over almost 90 degrees (using a metal pipe bender, lol), and scrog it out into a trellis net, so the canopy is much lower & flat as possible.
That, or just hang your LED panels on the 2 side walls instead of up near the ceiling. So it stretches more towards the sides than into the roof. Go vert!
That, or just hang your LED panels on the 2 side walls instead of up near the ceiling. So it stretches more towards the sides than into the roof. Go vert!
MissinThe90’sStrains
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You’ve got so much leafy mass, that you’re blocking light to those lower sites. You can prune them, thin out the canopies and train them to be flatter. It’s a lot of patient and diligent work, but it’s possible and they will recover just fine. I often let my moms “just live” for months until they turn into shrubs like this. Sometimes I’ll cut em in half, thin them out, train and then flower em out after they recover. If I’m lazy and don’t wanna deal with it, I just take cuts for a new mom and compost the old one after they root.
You just need to have a little better plan of when to flower them, and what size they should be next time. As long as they’re photo-plants and not autos, you can modify them for your needs.
You just need to have a little better plan of when to flower them, and what size they should be next time. As long as they’re photo-plants and not autos, you can modify them for your needs.
stawawager
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2 weeks into flower. I'll be glad when it's over. These grew a lot more than I'm used to.
stawawager
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They are 2 weeks into flower so I'm in crisis control until the end. It's like I have a little fire engine and a 20 story building on fire. At least they are healthy. Dang they're growing fast.
MissinThe90’sStrains
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Sorry bud, forgot that you were already in flowering. Someone above said to lst them and spread them out as much as you can. It would still help to “lollipop” them and thin some branches out too. They’re gonna be beastly!
stawawager
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I'm going to whack a lot of the bottoms and thin out ones I don't think will make it to the canopy / or get good light but I got to watch not to put them into shock, right?
I'm pretty sure bending won't shock them, not sure on the snip snip though.
First time I ever ordered beans, what a difference between them and my 20-year-old ones.
Farmer's Hat
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Considering that they are week 2 in flower, heavy pruning will likely stunt the plant. All that does is extend the flower cycle. There is also the potential for stress induced rhodelization (hermi or bananas).
Trimming off scraggly lower growth will hardly bother the plant. Bending branches is also low stress, hence the name LST (low stress training).
Honestly, at this point the only problem your likely to encounter is maybe some light burn/bleaching on the tallest colas.
(Google example pics below)
Are you able to raise the lights some more?
For the record, it think its pretty freaking amazing that you were able to get 4 monstrous plants in that single container. Your whole set up has incredible potential. I think you should really consider setting up a scrog net on your next run. It would be really effective at maximizing the yield, in your current space. The general method is simple. Fim the branches, then tuck or weave them into the scrog net. Once you run out of net space and the canopy is full, you flower them 12/12. I attached some pictures from this years greenhouse scrog, for reference.
stawawager
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Nice pics, nice plot, lots of room to move around. Looks like it's outside too or in a greenhouse.
My original plan was to scrog, make a lattice following the curvature of the tub so I could still rotate the tub for maintenance but two of the girls were half the height of the other two so I didn't make it. Next time two girls same strain.
I have about 18" until the lights top out. Here's three previous pics. They've gone crazy since going 12/12.
Farmer's Hat
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Thats a real clean set up. I can now see why a permanent net structure would complicate things. It would make it impossible to access the plant on the far end.
I grow indoors and outdoors. They require different approaches, for sure.
stawawager
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Re bending: The tops really get stiff and more brittle going into flower, I actually broke two of them, that's okay there's got to be a hundred of them left. On some of them it's like the whole stem is turning into a big bud.
I have three different strains in that tub and haven't been able to tell the difference maybe once they start to really flower I'll be able to?
MtRainDog
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I hope you named this plant "Seymour"