New mini 250w grow, limited height.

cues said:

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Okay guys. Here's my new grow.
For those that don't know me, I gave up smoking and moved into an attic conversion with the g/f, leaving me with a lot of equipment, nothing to do with it, but still a love for the hobby.
On the left are 3 tomato seedlings and on the right, 3 basil seedlings (Yeah, seriously!)
The cupboard is a mere 30" deep, 46" wide and 34" high.
The light is a 250w security lamp with a MH conversion bulb in there at the moment. I also have an HPS bulb for it. It used to be used for my old veg cab.
The base is a hydrogarden dual-flow, in ebb and flow mode with hydroton.
Cooling is a 6" 425 cfm ruck fan with matching filter (rhino I think) I cut a slot in the wall opposite the filter for intake, at the same level as the top of the Ebb-flow table. The filter is because I have had damp problems in the room and I am hoping it will keep them down.
Scrog screen is curved to match the light and works out at 5 square feet. My plan is to scrog the tomatoes and use the area on the right for basil (needs less light), pinching it out as I use it.
Using Canna vega/flora nutes and pH at about 5.5-6.0.
There is no fan for circulation at the moment as a) there is no room! and b) The suction from the fan is evidently making the plants move already.
ppm is about 500 at the moment as they are still seedlings but aiming for about 1200. I know the different nute requirements between basil and tomatoes is going to be a problem but that's something I will work out when the problem arises.
I won't be doing a full journal as I know most people won't be interested (heck, I'm not that interested myself!) but thought it would be of use for people stuck with a space with minimal height.
Sorry I'm not growing 'the plant' this time but I figure anything I am doing is transferable.

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cues said:

Thanks Guys. As far as I know, I will be the first person to scrog tomatoes indoors under light, although I'm sure I'm probably not! They are an unknown variety. I only know that they are either moneymaker or Roma. I started them off carefully marked out in seedling compost in a tray that my old root riot cubes came in, then tripped up when I was pi$$ed one night, potting them on and they all got mixed up!
Hopefully the misses will let me grow some Mary J one day and it will all be ready to go!
Also forgot to mention that I lined the cab with Megalux megashield. Not sure I entirely believe in the stuff re: FLIR cameras but it will be funny if we get busted . I would love to see the look on the coppers faces when the lab reports come back that it was tomatoes! I need a new front door anyway!

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cues said:

Oh, I intend too! I think she is worried as my old grow was comparatively big (1 600 hps and 1 250 mh in 2 4x4 areas, one veg, one flower but in my own house so not her business)
I think once she sees I can do it in a tiny cupboard she may let me. Just may take a grow of the tomatoes and basil to put her mind at rest that the door won't get booted in by the plod at 6am.
Also. I think I can get away with one plant in that area (I have another even smaller veg cab ready) so even if I do get busted, no big deal.

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cues said:

I'm in the UK unfortunately and we have a police helicopter go over regularly. In my last loft grow one hovered about 50 yards above it for 10 minutes at 2 a.m. one morning! That's when I bought the megalux sheeting!

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cues said:

Okay guys. Here's my new grow.
For those that don't know me, I gave up smoking and moved into an attic conversion with the g/f, leaving me with a lot of equipment, nothing to do with it, but still a love for the hobby.
On the left are 3 tomato seedlings and on the right, 3 basil seedlings (Yeah, seriously!)
The cupboard is a mere 30" deep, 46" wide and 34" high.
The light is a 250w security lamp with a MH conversion bulb in there at the moment. I also have an HPS bulb for it. It used to be used for my old veg cab.
The base is a hydrogarden dual-flow, in ebb and flow mode with hydroton.
Cooling is a 6" 425 cfm ruck fan with matching filter (rhino I think) I cut a slot in the wall opposite the filter for intake, at the same level as the top of the Ebb-flow table. The filter is because I have had damp problems in the room and I am hoping it will keep them down.
Scrog screen is curved to match the light and works out at 5 square feet. My plan is to scrog the tomatoes and use the area on the right for basil (needs less light), pinching it out as I use it.
Using Canna vega/flora nutes and pH at about 5.5-6.0.
There is no fan for circulation at the moment as a) there is no room! and b) The suction from the fan is evidently making the plants move already.
ppm is about 500 at the moment as they are still seedlings but aiming for about 1200. I know the different nute requirements between basil and tomatoes is going to be a problem but that's something I will work out when the problem arises.
I won't be doing a full journal as I know most people won't be interested (heck, I'm not that interested myself!) but thought it would be of use for people stuck with a space with minimal height.
Sorry I'm not growing 'the plant' this time but I figure anything I am doing is transferable.

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cues said:

Unfortunately we both have heavy records and I doubt it would take much for a judge to grant a warrant.
Also, she is on her third strike.

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Matchbox said:

HAHA Brilliant!

I know what your sayin' 'bout the missus, I had to do mine in a small area for her to let me lol poxy women XD

Not sure if you can ScrOG tomatoes, the fruit hangs down not like ganja buds LST will probably work better, train it horizontally.

Check out my cab, roughly the same size as yours, same wattage light and all that jazz.
One piece of advice I'll give you is putting the carbon filter on the outside, it'll give you much more space in there.

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I'm in the UK too man, right in the path of the choppers, had loads of em, even bloody chinooks, flying around checking out Stratford and running training missions for the olympics... damn rozzers!

AND, flir can only detect surface temp so if your just using a small box they wont see it even through thin wooden walls (mines in a shed with walls only 12mm thick) and they need more evidence than flir to bust you even more than a narc and flir, these 2 together will get them a warrent to go thru your bins (or other 'evidence' to raid your house) if they find weed leaves or something in your bin then they can raid your house... basically they need quite a bit to go on before they can even raid you.

Another plus for UK growers, they've pretty much given up looking for small time growers, a new piece of 'advice' came in on the 29th February where you can have up to 9 plants or 10oz and you can't go to prison, providing your not supplying, you'll most likely get a fine and/or some community service and a criminal record, but no prison for small scale

I've also upgraded my flower room to Ebb and Flow hydro for a perpetual harvest!

Stay Frosty!

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