New to rollitup.org - New CFL Grower - Think I may have issues already. Help!

natro.hydro said:

Not familiar with r sign for currency, brazilian real? Idk what leds you are looking at then since it says exchange rate is 2:1 in google and I have never seen a led unit for more than 3,000. In fact the most ridic was this thing, and it is a behemoth, not sure that is worth the money, but I am really considering trying Area 51 leds, full spectrum veg to flower and they have a new series of lights coming out this month that are supposed to be twice as efficient. As far as the bulb change, thought HIDs was every six months or you lose output? correct me if I am wrong not a user of them, striclty regurgitating what I thought I heard.

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Rand (ZAR) so R10 to $1 more or less.

$2500 would be about R25000. That can buy me 10 month's worth of groceries (about 16 months as I grow my own veggies).
1000Watts HPS would cost me around R1500 ($150).
I don't have the space or inclination to grow that much (personal use is what I grow for).
I use 400Watt (Cost to buy everything about R800).
It costs me around R120 to R180pm to run electricity wise.

New bulbs range between R95 to R200 ($9.5 to $20) and they last 5000 hours before they start to lose effectiveness.
That is 208 days if run 24 hours a day. It's for flowering so runs 12 hours a day. I could get easily 400 days out of a bulb.

Do the math...

Do the math.

bigv1976 said:

Yup LEDs have been around since 1962 but 10 more years will do it.

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Made me LOL.

There are serious leaps and bounds with LED's and growing happening at the moment but I still give it at the very very least 5 years before they will be cost effective as well as completely on par with HID.

Anotherlover said:

Rand (ZAR) so R10 to $1 more or less.

$2500 would be about R25000. That can buy me 10 month's worth of groceries (about 16 months as I grow my own veggies).
1000Watts HPS would cost me around R1500 ($150).
I don't have the space or inclination to grow that much (personal use is what I grow for).
I use 400Watt (Cost to buy everything about R800).
It costs me around R120 to R180pm to run electricity wise.

New bulbs range between R95 to R200 ($9.5 to $20) and they last 5000 hours before they start to lose effectiveness.
That is 208 days if run 24 hours a day. It's for flowering so runs 12 hours a day. I could get easily 400 days out of a bulb.

Do the math...

Do the math.

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If those were the prices I paid for a bulb then I would go that route too, and that behemoth was a example not what I am saying to grab lol, I think its ridiculous too. But the panel I suggested (Area 51) are half that for something that covers that same space and is a reputable dealer (not a sales pitch, don't even own one, just heard good things). I go for more panels than just one big one tho this is my preference.
Bulbs for a 1000w hps is 259 at a store nearby I just checked, don't believe me? bulb even has double the life expectancy of what you mentioned.
http://www.paradigmgardens.com/hydroponicstore/store/product.php?productid=2137&cat=92&page=1

natro.hydro said:

If those were the prices I paid for a bulb then I would go that route too, and that behemoth was a example not what I am saying to grab lol, I think its ridiculous too. But the panel I suggested (Area 51) are half that for something that covers that same space and is a reputable dealer (not a sales pitch, don't even own one, just heard good things). I go for more panels than just one big one tho this is my preference.
Bulbs for a 1000w hps is 259 at a store nearby I just checked, don't believe me?
http://www.paradigmgardens.com/hydroponicstore/store/product.php?productid=2137&cat=92&page=1

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Yea I have heard of Area 51 and am interested, just seriously out of my budget for a hobby and as I said earlier, I have no recourse when something goes wrong.

Ok I'd say lose the miracle grow after this attempt. Foxfarm ocean forest with 25 percent perlite added takes all the guess work out of soil for me. You wont need nutrients for 30 days in his stuff. $20 shipped to my door is not bad for excellent soil to me. Next your cfls need to get closer. 5 inches away is gonna cause stretching in early veg, not good when you flower and they stretch 2-3x more naturally. You want to get the plants short and bushy wi cfl. That means get the lights close.....as in 1-2" inches. Watch the plants grow and make sure they dont grow into the cfl's. With watering less is more. Let it fully dry up 2-3 days before watering again. Use feed, watee, feed again. As for additives I like bud candy, big bud, and overdrive at the end.

Smokenpassout said:

Ok I'd say lose the miracle grow after this attempt. Foxfarm ocean forest with 25 percent perlite added takes all the guess work out of soil for me. You wont need nutrients for 30 days in his stuff. $20 shipped to my door is not bad for excellent soil to me. Next your cfls need to get closer. 5 inches away is gonna cause stretching in early veg, not good when you flower and they stretch 2-3x more naturally. You want to get the plants short and bushy wi cfl. That means get the lights close.....as in 1-2" inches. Watch the plants grow and make sure they dont grow into the cfl's. With watering less is more. Let it fully dry up 2-3 days before watering again. Use feed, watee, feed again. As for additives I like bud candy, big bud, and overdrive at the end.

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Already transplanted a put into different soil. Read a few posts back.

bigv1976 said:

Yes you can grow plants with cfls. You can also bust a nut by jerking off but I prefer to have a pussy to make it BETTER.

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Well that's you and your opinions. And marijuana and pussy are both great things, but should never be compared to each other because they're different things. Stfu and let me do MY grow the way I want to. I asked questions and there are others who have politely answered them, but you're just a plain dick about it all and then you take over my thread by arguing all over it. You're banned from posting on my thread!

bigv1976 said:

Who told you that? If that was the case we wouldnt need to answer stupid questions over and over again we could just say buy decent gentics and watch em grow. The ignorance of these people is killing me. Furthur more if its all about genetics how come we have threads asking whats the worst seeds you have grown and we have people shitting on some of the best genetics in the world. BECAUSE YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO GROW A PLANT OR IT WILL DIE!! Boy I would hate to get 1000 feet up in a hot air baloon and then have the guy asking questions about how to fly a baloon on blowitup.org.

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Lol. Yeah. There's a lot of questions that could have been answered before the tarp went up. O well.

The first post in the thread titled "Welcome New Members!" says "If you haven't posted yet, this is a place to introduce yourself and let us know your here. Don't be shy, and if you have any questions, start a thread, and ask away, we'll do our best to help you out."

There are other people who post questions here. I'm not the only one. That's what a forum is for. If you guys don't like it, no need to leave your vile attitude and smartass comments. Go up your post count on someone else's thread, not mine. How fuckin disrespectful.

Apomixis said:

Dude, no disrespect. But honestly, there is a search bar. Fuck, there's google. Use them.

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Cool, you're up to 80 posts! Going to make it 81? If you don't have anything nice to say, I'll just ignore you and keep posting here. I mean seriously, is it really bothering you that I'm posting here? Is it lodging that stick further up your ass knowing that I'm posting questions on a forum that's exactly for that; posting questions? Say you never stumbled upon this thread. Would you still be here bitching? Obviously not. You and bigvag1976 can gtfo of my thread if you don't like it. Or you can continue to complain about how my posts are greatly affecting your lives. These other people who are politely answering my questions in real time aren't dickheads and aren't telling me to google shit. I know wtf google is for and I use it daily. I am on a forum to discuss, ask questions and share my journey with others who do care. Got a problem? You're not welcome here.

Here's no.81.
Im sorry I was a prick.
The best resource for you is to look at the stickies in your particular area of interest. Lookup CFL/Fluorescent Lighting.
This is a good place to start.
If you need any help, ask, I won't be snobby. My bad.
accept?

Apomixis said:

Here's no.81.
Im sorry I was a prick.
The best resource for you is to look at the stickies in your particular area of interest. Lookup CFL/Fluorescent Lighting.
This is a good place to start.
If you need any help, ask, I won't be snobby. My bad.
accept?

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Yeah man let's just all get a bong. I just hate being attacked. There are so many other people that do the same thing and I'm the one criticized for it. I just want to share my experience and get some real time answers. That's all man.

To be honest, I have this same thing posted in 2 other forums that I frequent. This is the only one I've gotten crap for lol. I like to get different opinions from different people and get real-time insight.

Cool. One last thing and I will get out of your hair.... The cat.. Watch the cat.
Once again, sorry, any questions, ask.

I heard about the cat once before. Some have said that if he's an outside cat, that's when I should worry about pests, etc. but my cat is always indoors, but what have you heard?

that and those lil bastards like to munch on leaves lol, mine does if I do not keep the door shut... and hair on buds is never impressive...

natro.hydro said:

that and those lil bastards like to munch on leaves lol, mine does if I do not keep the door shut... and hair on buds is never impressive...

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Haha that's true if I let my cat outside on accident he just munches on leaves in my yard, but he's cool. He doesn't go in the tarped area it's kind of blocked off. Plus he is old, his curiosity has shortened. He doesn't care wtf is in there lol.

Hey I'm from Co too! Fuck the dumb you did great at posting everything you needed that way you can get correct help. Definitely looks like nute burn. In the MG the nutrients are water soluble so every time you water they will get nutes. That's why you have a burn, try to see if you can get some regular soil and try to cut it so its about 50/50. The plants will bounce back its a weed it can grow in anything !

Go to nicks garden and get fox farms ocean forest big bag for $18 if you don't want to cut your mix, it may still be a lil hot for the babies yet they will do fine.

haoleflip said:

Yeah man let's just all get a bong. I just hate being attacked. There are so many other people that do the same thing and I'm the one criticized for it. I just want to share my experience and get some real time answers. That's all man.

To be honest, I have this same thing posted in 2 other forums that I frequent. This is the only one I've gotten crap for lol. I like to get different opinions from different people and get real-time insight.

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I give it 2 weeks max., before you have a list you write on daily of who to listen to, and who to ignore, and who to look for if you want a good laugh.
Just in case though, keep an eye on people's sig's, sometimes they have links to their grows like I do, and you can find a few things out about them real quick if you wanted to, rather than having to go to their profile and search.

Bakatare666 said:

I give it 2 weeks max., before you have a list you write on daily of who to listen to, and who to ignore, and who to look for if you want a good laugh.
Just in case though, keep an eye on people's sig's, sometimes they have links to their grows like I do, and you can find a few things out about them real quick if you wanted to, rather than having to go to their profile and search.

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Yeah i was looking at yours. Looks awesome!