Newbie Dwc Problems !!!

colvic21 said:

ok guys i have my air pump strapped to the the ceiling of the tent should i put this outside now.

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Air temps at the ground are normally about 5 degrees cooler than at the top of the room. Place your pumps at the coolest spot possible. Just make sure to add check valves to the airline (I hate these because they restrict airflow) or run your lines so that they go above the water level of your totes before they go down to the pump.

This is because in the event of a power loss your water will want to run back through your airlines and can flood your pumps. If your lines run above your res this wont happen.

colvic21 said:

ok guys i have my air pump strapped to the the ceiling of the tent should i put this outside now. i think i will try insulating these for the time being and order a tote and ice probes

could you guys give me an idea of what i will need to run a 2 plant tote

tote size, ice probe size how many many probes to one tote and what size air pump should i run to that tote,

in the future i want to run 4 plants but i will make another tote.

Need to get down to buisiness and keep maintenance as low as i can due to commitments.

will get this ordered tonight if i can

thanks for all the help guys

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Keep us posted re the water cooler plate, I haven't heard much about them. Go have a look at my OH Zone thread, there's a bit about my struggles with rot. It was a long hard fought war lol. I'm trying to decide to either buy chiller (used) or build one using a window shaker or water cooler (probably burn it out). My first attempt at hydro was a bucket and I made root slime soup lol. And thx Hiesenberg, it was that thread that got me into running teas at the start.

Evening guys

Ok so i changed out nutes sunday and the girls are currently at 440 ppm And ph'd to 5.5, i have Aqua flakes A + B and root excelurator in the res now With 12ml of 12% H202 (oxyplus) there is new root growth exploding out the bottom of the net pots and the brown effected areas seem to be still growing on , the brown has come back again, Pictures enclosed for you to have a look.

one plant is really healthy and the other looks like something out of the Rocky horror show.

the better plant of the 2 has a weird tinge to a few leaves i will attach pictures below as plant 1 & 2 so you can see what each one is doing.

i looked into the ice probe but they are not available in the uk unless im prepared to pay £300 which seems extortionate considering they are $125 if i were to order from the US, the only problem is that it could take 4 weeks to arrive i don't have that time.

I have found another way to try and cool the water you tube link -
whats the ideal temprature range to keep the nutrient soloution at

the hydro guard came today would it be worth taking away the H2o2 and switching to hydro guard Hydroguard arrived today

Plant 1 no smell in res

plant 2 not looking good although new growth has started

colvic21 said:

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Phew-ie man those roots look a little too far gone to save at this point Im thinkin...

I thought that Airwalker i dont know if its worth investing more into this system put so much in already to get going.may just stay in soil one of my soil one's must be 3 foot tall and loving life less hassle but slow, the other one is topped and LST as an experiment.

colvic21 said:

I thought that Airwalker i dont know if its worth investing more into this system put so much in already to get going.may just stay in soil one of my soil one's must be 3 foot tall and loving life less hassle but slow, the other one is topped and LST as an experiment.

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Well they may not be to late to save but the time time bring them back will be long. I spent 4 weeks bringing mine back but was willing to do that. It would have been quicker to start again but still had a problem that needed solving. I run my Res at 66 F and they seem happy but haven't tried anything different. And I would atleast try the guard, you'll know in a week if it's working. Also ditch the root stuff for the remainder as well would be my suggestion. Whatever you decide good luck!!!

Didn't watch the whole vid but same cooler tech that was suggested earlier, just a DIY one but pretty cool. Lol. Just remember that the heat removed goes into the room but that may not be an issue. Try it and let me know, I'll make a few .

Dwc is very easy as long as you have all you neee, Colvic. Just invest in a chiller, build a RDWC (recirculating) one to keep evrything moving. That's helps more than anything.

I've just been tossing in a 1 liter bottle of water frozen swicht out each day on 17gallon res stays about 65-68 so far so good

Run the hberg tea I had a super bad root rot due to no enough research plants where about dead took 3 weeks to come back in dwc but they are doing great now thanks to hbergs tea I inculcate the sites once a week and put a whole gallon each week at res change

Heisenberg said:

Roots excel sometimes causes a little goop in the roots. It's not really anything to worry about. As long as you see new root growth, particularly the tips, and there is no bad smell, you'll be fine. From what I see in the pics, I wouldn't worry. I would treat it with some beneficials and keep an eye on it. Your res temps are a little high. If you can place your pump in a cool place that will help.

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Still think it's nothing? Like I said clumping of roots are, IMO, a clue your about to do battle

Budley Doright said:

Still think it's nothing? Like I said clumping of roots are, IMO, a clue your about to do battle

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My advice was to get some microbes in there and get the temps down, not to let it set for a week and get worse. The course of action is the same IMO. Take those plants in the shower, rinse off as much gunk as possible, and get some tea in it. Stop using roots excel and anything else that is organic.

Heisenberg said:

My advice was to get some microbes in there and get the temps down, not to let it set for a week and get worse. The course of action is the same IMO. Take those plants in the shower, rinse off as much gunk as possible, and get some tea in it. Stop using roots excel and anything else that is organic.

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Yes you did and all great advice. Temps would be priority #1 IMO from a newbs perspective. Again it was your threads that got me into bubbling teas . I threw everything I could find at it (rot) and not really sure what fixed it but sterile products certainly didn't, just held it at bay .

cheers guys, Hberg do you or anyone have a link to the tea receipe and the procedure please?

whats ewc ?

Thanks

colvic21 said:

cheers guys, Hberg do you or anyone have a link to the tea receipe and the procedure please?

whats ewc ?

Thanks

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are you close to a hydro store? the tea works fine but you need to kill the rot you already have in my opinion with something a bit stronger.

i'd have 2 suggestions:

H2O2 (about 4 bottles of the 3% you get at walmart) OR
dutchmaster zone (basically a mild bleach solution for hydro)


but your root rot is causing all the issues with the leaves you are seeing.

Earth worm castings

Looks likes its clearing up bub, i think every newbie grower gets this their first run with dwc, i know i sure did. Good lukc on not getting it in the future

Heisenberg said:

Signs of root rot in DWC are mushy, smelly roots that stop growing. What I see is a few patches of discolored roots with new healthy root growth all around. If it were me I would treat with a microbe tea. I wouldn't even sterilize first.

Stop adding roots excel to the res. Use it plus the hydroguard plus some EWC to make a cheap tea. 2 gal water + 5ml roots excel plus 10ml hydroguard plus a golf ball sized chunk of EWC (or preferably Ancient Forest) plus a tablespoon of molasses, bubble for 48 hours and add to the res, 1 cup per gallon.

See my thread in the DWC section for more info, and I believe if you search youtube for "Heisenberg tea" you can see it being made.

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i will try this hberg thank you very much for the info just to make sure when i do this

i need + hydroguard, + Ewc + Molasses brew for 48 hrs and add to my res solution of A+B Only No root excel at all, and try and lower the temps to a maximum of 18c minimum of 15c