News Reporter Arrested at DNC for....

I have been sick of it for quite some time. I was raised to be a 'get involved' kind of woman, which does go against our cultural mores that remind us to 'mind your own business' (though I take that to mean to pay attention to your business as much as don't pay attention to others). What is difficult, what is painful, IS to take responsibility, including a responsibility for NOT voting as an example. By not making a decision, you're effectively making a decision, and people fail to accept, or outright reject, the idea that by taking such a course of (in)action, they are, in their own way, effecting an outcome. Such a simple concept, but it hurts, because then we'd have to say, "We made a mistake." Well, Californians aren't afraid to say we've made a mistake, just look at Gray Davis! Now, admit we made a mistake with the Governator....?

"Now, admit we made a mistake with the Governator....?"

A huge mistake. For the record, I voted for McClintock.

Vi

I don't know if there was a video of this yet or not, but there was a group called 'Recreate68' that was protesting at the Civic Center Park that started getting a bit out of hand and ran out in the street and made a barricade shouting something like "these are our streets!" while blocking all the cars. Then a bunch of riot police shot tear gas (I think) into them and started firing rubber bullets at 'em. They then made a circle of van's around em so no one could see in. I am not sure what happened next because I was actually on my way to a Ralph Nader debate, but those police really seamed to use a hell of a lot of force on a group of what looked like 18-25 year-olds. I have never seen the DPD act anything like how they acted this week. Not to mention how the city of Denver actually handed out movie tickets and such to keep downtown clear of as many homeless as they could. Just kind of seems like they are hiding their problems instead of solving them. There are a few more examples, but I will leave em out unless you guys wanna hear em.

I think there are more than one policing department handling security for the DNC in Denver. Either way, a significant number of them are behaving like THUGS. With whose approval or by whose direction? Or, are they always like this? In other words, Pigeon, YES! If you've got more to bring to the table, bring it, please.

ViRedd said:

"Now, admit we made a mistake with the Governator....?"

A huge mistake. For the record, I voted for McClintock.

Vi

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Me, too! And I got Dave to vote for him, and my dad. Couldn't get my mom to vote for him, or either of my sisters. Oh well.

Pidgeon said:

I don't know if there was a video of this yet or not, but there was a group called 'Recreate68' that was protesting at the Civic Center Park that started getting a bit out of hand and ran out in the street and made a barricade shouting something like "these are our streets!" while blocking all the cars. Then a bunch of riot police shot tear gas (I think) into them and started firing rubber bullets at 'em. They then made a circle of van's around em so no one could see in. I am not sure what happened next because I was actually on my way to a Ralph Nader debate, but those police really seamed to use a hell of a lot of force on a group of what looked like 18-25 year-olds. I have never seen the DPD act anything like how they acted this week. Not to mention how the city of Denver actually handed out movie tickets and such to keep downtown clear of as many homeless as they could. Just kind of seems like they are hiding their problems instead of solving them. There are a few more examples, but I will leave em out unless you guys wanna hear em.

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There's a ton of videos of that from the ground perspective but this one is the only one from above.. YouTube - DNC 2008 (Riot - 8/25)

YouTube - DNC Protests: Police slam CodePink protester to the ground
Here's the CodePink clip for those that haven't seen it..

Sure, I'd personally love to hear anything else- been watching this stuff all week.. the police state was just itching to get a chance to beat and arrest people.. I honestly think the amount of cameras kept them in check from doing even more..

I have never had any problems with the Denver PD before, and yeah you are right I am sure the majority of them were not actually from Denver considering the amount of police (I mean there were all over the place). Usually the police in that area don't even bust people dealing weed in the park. Hell, I have seen a police officer walk right past a drug deal and not even care to stop 'em. There were even some Westboro baptist protesters in the park, but they were pretty much ridiculed the entire time there were there. Seems like the policed favored the Westboro baptists because as soon as people started to voice their opinions about the Westboros, the police stepped in and started bassically assaulting harmless people just sharing their opinions. The funny thing is, the police were arresting the people spreading the message of love, while leaving the hate-mongers to themselves (regardless of them not having a permit to protest). There was also something called the "freedom cage" (ironic eh?) which was just a parking lot of the Auraria campus that is located in a very low traffic area that is basically out of the way of everything. They forced the protesters into this cage and kept a spotlight on em the entire night, which in my idea is sleep deprivation torture. There was also a funny incident where a protest group goosestepped behind a group of democrats marching to Invesco field. There were also a few Marijuana rallies during the DNC where Medical Marijuana patients were given some free weed and some other goodies. Despite all the negative stuff that I have talked about..it was still a really good experience to see and be a part of. I just wished that I could have gotten tickets to be a part of the actual convention, but at least I got to see Rage Against the Machine for free .

Sweet... overall for the whole week it seemed pretty good and it sure could have turned out worse..

I know there were other officers there to help the Denver PD, however, the guy who pushed the CodePink chick down was verified to be with the Denver PD though they wouldn't release his name, he's under internal investigation.

How was the Rage show? I was disappointed to hear afterwards they didn't hold their ground to hand off a letter to Obama.. the accounts I've heard said they told anyone willing to be arrested to be in the front because they weren't going to move, then the cops came asked them to move and within 10 minutes they moved..

Wish I coulda been there.. thanks for exercising your rights man.

Oh, also it is funny how the group Recreate68 are being called Anarchists which isn't true at all. They are just a group of proactive young adults who want to get back to the way thing were in 1968 politically. Their entire message is one of love, but they are being treated like terrorists and hate-mongers.

HotNSexyMILF said:

How was the Rage show? I was disappointed to hear afterwards they didn't hold their ground to hand off a letter to Obama.. the accounts I've heard said they told anyone willing to be arrested to be in the front because they weren't going to move, then the cops came asked them to move and within 10 minutes they moved..

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The Rage show was awesome, they really know how to get a crowd excited. Well, the police really didn't ask them to move they basically showed up and started shouting "MOVE!" then when they wouldn't they brought out the tear gas, mace, rubber bullets, and started beating and arresting the people that refused. There were even some innocent bystanders that got in the way of the pepper spray, etc. There weren't just a handful of police either..there were a whole lot of them in full riot gear and on horseback. Afterwords they fenced off the whole park and had guards on each end to make sure no one got in.

For you younger people ...

The Democrat convention in 1968 was marked by riots promoted by communist sympathizers led by Jane Fonda's husband Tom Hayden. These folks had the same mindset as the leftists who run the Democrat Party today. These are the same types that set Seattle on fire during the WTO convention a couple of years ago. There is no way the Denver police department or the Secret Service could allow that to go on during the Democrat convention this week. With the world situation, the radicalism of the ultra left and the general lack of morals in the country, order had to be maintained. All illegal activity was nipped in the bud. Hey, if some Code Pink radical was pushed down for failure to comply with a police order, perhaps she'll comply next time.

Believe me, if I was confronted by a seedy looking character carrying a "Recreate68" sign, I'd be kicking some ass too. ~lol~

Vi

YouTube - Truth Movement takes over Chris Matthews at DNC
YouTube - Malkin Stooge Attempts Frame UP on Alex Jones at DNC

Alex Jones was there lol
he may be a very extreme person at times... but he's only trying to unmask the puppeteers.

those Recreate68 people were constantly bothering him.

ViRedd said:

For you younger people ...

The Democrat convention in 1968 was marked by riots promoted by communist sympathizers led by Jane Fonda's husband Tom Hayden. These folks had the same mindset as the leftists who run the Democrat Party today. These are the same types that set Seattle on fire during the WTO convention a couple of years ago. There is no way the Denver police department or the Secret Service could allow that to go on during the Democrat convention this week. With the world situation, the radicalism of the ultra left and the general lack of morals in the country, order had to be maintained. All illegal activity was nipped in the bud. Hey, if some Code Pink radical was pushed down for failure to comply with a police order, perhaps she'll comply next time.

Believe me, if I was confronted by a seedy looking character carrying a "Recreate68" sign, I'd be kicking some ass too. ~lol~

Vi

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Well, I guess you share the same elitist view as many of the police officers did. Let me say this again..there was no threat to any person during these protests. There was no sign of any violence UNTIL provoked by the riot police. I guess everyone has their own opinion about the situation, but the thing is YOU WEREN'T THERE. Therefore you really don't have any clear evidence to base your opinions on. There was talk of death to homosexuals, gays, soldiers, atheists, etc. But..these guys were un-harmed and the police didn't even bother with these guys. And, actually these are not the types that set that fire in Seattle. These guys are just more concerned with the way the party system is creating too much of a division between the citizens of America. They are trying to return the "feeling of love all around" like it was in 1968 hence the name Recreate68. Tell me why exactly is spreading the word of peace and love somehow harmful to ANYBODY other than those who profit off of the division of our country. They are far from communists or anarchists. Also, this chick wasn't a radical. I am guessing your deffinition of a radical is someone who stands up for their rights and protests? I suggest you check a dictionary. Also, it wasn't the police that was confronted..it was the protestors. Get your story straight and try to open your mind up to differences in opinion.

Microdizzey said:

YouTube - Truth Movement takes over Chris Matthews at DNC
YouTube - Malkin Stooge Attempts Frame UP on Alex Jones at DNC

Alex Jones was there lol
he may be a very extreme person at times... but he's only trying to unmask the puppeteers.

those Recreate68 people were constantly bothering him.

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Mh hm.. was watching his coverage all week..

Malkin got her's- and yes, Alex gets a little heated- but can you blame him? To defend torture, and defend the round up of innocent US citizens to put them in FEMA camps for no crimes- she is especially racist and has been fired from numerous jobs for her hate filled comments.. but by god, confront the women and that's a big no no..not a FOX neocon darling..

Those retractions better start coming in from all the media lying about the incident, Alex plans to sue..

Hey, Pigeon ...

The protesters I saw were wearing masks covering their faces and making a lot of noise. I'm all for protesting, no problem. But ... I don't think I'd be protesting looking like some kind of a terrorist who doesn't want his/her face to show. And to the "establishment," there would be only one connotation to that "Recreate68" slogan ... the Democratic convention in 1968. You may think it was about "love and peace" ... but believe me, that '68 convention wasn't pretty. Here's some pics ...

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Vi

I know what you're saying Vi.

If I'm not mistaken a couple weeks ago someone confronted the group leaders about how the name conveys the message that they are trying to incite riots like that of '68 and gave them a bad violent image. So some of the members agreed, left, and joined or formed a different group.

ViRedd said:

Hey, Pigeon ...

The protesters I saw were wearing masks covering their faces and making a lot of noise. I'm all for protesting, no problem. But ... I don't think I'd be protesting looking like some kind of a terrorist who doesn't want his/her face to show. And to the "establishment," there would be only one connotation to that "Recreate68" slogan ... the Democratic convention in 1968. You may think it was about "love and peace" ... but believe me, that '68 convention wasn't pretty. Here's some pics ...

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Vi

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"Let us be clear: the name is not “Recreate Chicago 68” or “Recreate the DNC 68.”"
What’s in a Name?
Wasn't it the police that started that riot in Chicago? Weren't there peaceful protesters and onlookers that were beaten for no reason? Didn't the police also assault the media during this riot?
Here is another quote from the page I linked:
"Obviously, neither Recreate 68 nor anyone else wants to see that kind of police violence repeated in Denver this August. That is why members of R68 began meeting with representatives of the mayor’s office and the Denver Police Department over a year ago to try to ensure that the rights of demonstrators to engage in peaceful, nonviolent free speech activities"

Also, regardless of their outfits there were chants of "Peace, Love, Justice" etc. I think this kind of thing sends the opposite message that a "terrorist" wants to send.

"Also, regardless of their outfits there were chants of "Peace, Love, Justice" etc. I think this kind of thing sends the opposite message that a "terrorist" wants to send."

Recreating '68
by Lisa Richards (more by this author)
Posted 03/31/2008 ET




Those lovable, aggressive peace-loving anti-war factions of the left are ready for the 1968 presidential race. At least some of them are preparing to recreate the chaos that surrounded the 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago when the Dem delegates gather this August in Denver, Colorado.

The band of loons, freaks and frauds planning the new mess is unimaginatively named Recreate 68. It’s a radical left-wing group of “peace-loving” Castro-ettes whose goal is described as peaceful through good old fashioned liberal violence upon the dangerous American establishment and government that Recreate 68 feels must be taken down and controlled by revolutionaries.

The people trying to control the U.S. via revolution are your average insane hemp-wearing, pot smoking, commune-type militant who most likely studied loading and firing under Angela Davis at UC Berkley.

For those who don’t already know how dangerous these“peaceful” activist groups are, the Recreate 68 web site gives a full manifesto of tactics necessary to destroy the U.S. government and wealthy and middle-class Americans: “Sometimes we need to move back [to 1968] to move forward. In 1968, there existed a spirit of change, the Paris Rebellion,” where students and workers marched against the established order of France’s government for radical reform of what students felt was unfair working conditions. In other words, the French were told by those evil dirigeants (order-givers) to work for a living. Has anyone ever known the French to not protest or riot when told to work?

The Chicago riots and the Vietnam War protest are viewed by radical leftists as practical education for how Americans should live: like jihadists “capable of taking over the institutions that controlled their lives.” In other words, corporations hiring and paying people to work and the government needed to prevent chaos by keeping laws enforced.

Recreate 68 is against laws. Laws hinder and control people. Recreate 68 wants a return to the riotous 60’s where “the smell of revolution was in the air.”

That smell was in the air during the French Revolution when the people were lopping off the heads of the wealthy. But let’s not forget those rich criminals deserved to lose their heads for having the audacity to be rich.

It is after all the radical leftist goal to get rid of the upper and middle-class bourgeois whom leftists insist destroy society by building it and putting people to work for money.

I, for one, have never been hired by the rich; the poor have always employed me and paid my way.

The 68’ Chicago riots, which lasted five days, nearly destroyed the city of Chicago. Anti-war demonstrators clashed with 11,900 Chicago police, 7,500 Army troops, 7,500 Illinois National Guardsmen, and 1000 Secret Service Agents.

Riots started by so-called “peace activists” included thug Black Panther founder Bobby Seale, David Dellinger, chairman of the National Mobilization Committee to End the War in Vietnam, Rennie Davis and Tom Hayden, members of the Students for a Democratic Society, Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin, leaders of the Youth International Party (those lovable YIPPIES), Lee Weiner research assistant at Northwestern University, eight civilians known as “The Chicago 8,” and John Froines, a professor at the University at the University of Oregon.

Perhaps Recreate 68 can get Jeremiah Wright and Ward Churchill for their Masters of Ceremonies.

Recreate 68 claims that “through mass participation in the movement [of 1968’s violence], it was possible wrest control from the elite power-holders.” Recreate 68 believes the wealthy in America -- Democrat and Republican -- are stealing human and Civil rights from the American underclass. Which obviously doesn’t include these pampered Berserkely types and those day workers hired from Rent a Radical.

Leftist protesters love to ban together in every state decrying money and power they obviously have in order to subsidize their travel expenses and enormous Kinko’s bills. No one ever points out these brats have money themselves to travel and whine like pseudo-Indian untouchables trampled upon by the U. S. government that hands out more expensive entitlements than Emperors’ Club hookers.

Recreate 68 demands “change and mass participation in the events that shape and control our [Americans’] lives.” Those “events” they speak of are the laws and principles this country was founded on: the Constitution of the United States and its Declaration of independence that gave every American freedom to live the American dream but not a guarantee of achieving it.

Radical leftists prefer Marxian communism: complete and total equality where no one in America ever achieves more than another. Recreate 68 intends upon doing this by resurrecting “that revolutionary feeling [of 1968’s violence] and pick[ing]-up where our predecessors left off.” Their predecessors left a bloody trail of hate through Chicago that propelled Richard Nixon to the presidency.

The Democrats -- and the city of Denver -- cannot afford to let these people “recreate” 1968. Denver police are forewarned long enough to prepare for them. But are the Democrats -- beholden to MoveOn.org, Code Pink and the rest -- capable of guarding against them?


Lisa Richards is a lifelong Reagan Conservative Republican from Connecticut who believes in America's constitutional founding as a Constitutional Republic. You can read more of her work at THE WORLD AS IT SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT BE ACCORDING TO LISA RICHARDS.

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I couldn't read the rest of it once I hit the bit about Angela Davis. Do you want to know what that woman makes as a UC professor? $135K+. We have a friend who's a chemistry prof/researcher, published MANY times, and his wife's a virologist (when they met she was one of the few people in the UK who would handle live AIDS/HIV virus), and their salaries, COMBINED, do not add up to what that woman makes. Gotta say, it kinda chaps my hide for them, and for "us". I don't think that what Ms. Davis did or does is more valuable than what our friends do AT ALL. Yet, the UC system does.

Sorry folks, carry on.

Seamaiden ...

I have a grandson who is a VERY gifted student. He was accepted to all the major universities and was offered large academic scholarships, no problem. He visited all the UC schools and what he saw there about made him throw up. He decided to attend a private university instead.

Hee, hee ... it pays to have a grand dad who's a Randian.

Vi