NFTG. Nectar For The Gods

bubba73

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oh ! this video with bob running 2 lights on top each over is unreal... stick with the 630w and master it... changing spectrums at different strength will stress those plants ...
 

IrieRoots

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oh ! this video with bob running 2 lights on top each over is unreal... stick with the 630w and master it... changing spectrums at different strength will stress those plants ...
That and I commented when he made the change about room temps when running LED, you gotta run warmer, in low 80's, to get the leaf surface temps up and in range with proper VPD. I'm no wizard of VPD, nor do I have that much environmental control to maintain perfect VPD but I do fine, and way better once I started running temps 82-85!! I think you get bigger night time temp differences too, so don't necessarily need cold temps to bring on fall colors, you just need the plant to experience greater temp differences....telling the plant winter is near. Might be hogwash, but in my mind it makes sense....LOL....and seems to be working in that direction!! This and some of the other ripening flush tips I got from you guys are ON POINT!!
 

IrieRoots

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I want a 315 cmh to mess around with. I love my Timber COBs and HLG board.....insane what 300 watts of high end LED can!!!
 

bubba73

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I think the cooler temps at night plays a part telling the plant along with the tritions that hey ! winter is coming !!! finish up !!!! I also think these 8 week strains are more like 10 weeks and your 10 weeks are like 12 weeks ...im gonna push my 8 week to 10 weeks ... get that massive fall colors ..I run 315w cmh now and love them ... soon im gonna switch to a 630w from nanolux ....(cheaper) and run 41k and 31k and have a full spectrum of light ...
 

zzeroo

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I want a 315 cmh to mess around with. I love my Timber COBs and HLG board.....insane what 300 watts of high end LED can!!!
i run them and love the mix spec i get from the cmh and hps i run them side by side and rotate the plants every week..your going love them , i see frost week 2 sometime but by week 3 4 ...wow wow wow...i also veg under one
 

zzeroo

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I think the cooler temps at night plays a part telling the plant along with the tritions that hey ! winter is coming !!! finish up !!!! I also think these 8 week strains are more like 10 weeks and your 10 weeks are like 12 weeks ...im gonna push my 8 week to 10 weeks ... get that massive fall colors ..I run 315w cmh now and love them ... soon im gonna switch to a 630w from nanolux ....(cheaper) and run 41k and 31k and have a full spectrum of light ...
hell yeah....
 

IrieRoots

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I think the cooler temps at night plays a part telling the plant along with the tritions that hey ! winter is coming !!! finish up !!!! I also think these 8 week strains are more like 10 weeks and your 10 weeks are like 12 weeks ...im gonna push my 8 week to 10 weeks ... get that massive fall colors ..I run 315w cmh now and love them ... soon im gonna switch to a 630w from nanolux ....(cheaper) and run 41k and 31k and have a full spectrum of light ...
100% on flower times!! And I love mixed full spectrum. I'm gonna get me a ceramic soon for sure....been checking into them a lot lately. I run hps too, its crazy all the little differences in flowers from different light sources.
 

bubba73

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here a pic of my latest brew using worm casting /oly mountain fish ...will be 24hr @ 1130pm... then other 2 will get root drench ...need to make an order for kelp , crab meal ...
was looking at root organics have veg tea and bloom tea ..... only difference in bloom is the crab meal ... has bone meal , feather meal (so does NTFG) ......I won't add anything with the ite in the ending word..lol...
 

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IrieRoots

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here a pic of my latest brew using worm casting /oly mountain fish ...will be 24hr @ 1130pm... then other 2 will get root drench ...need to make an order for kelp , crab meal ...
was looking at root organics have veg tea and bloom tea ..... only difference in bloom is the crab meal ... has bone meal , feather meal (so does NTFG) ......I won't add anything with the ite in the ending word..lol...
Looks even canker than first!! I use the ROOTS Bloom Terp Tea week 3/4ish as a food source for my AACT!! Its micronized so it stirs into solution quite nice.....prolly way easier for microbes to make that crab available too. Crab meal takes a while to break down but an amazing must have amendment!! And kelp meal is just amazing and a must have for the shelf. Check out the rehydrated kelp recipe on Buildasoil, its a COOTS recipe for an instant kelp tea, I foliar with it when I do the tek. I can't speak on the Veg Terp tea, sure its dank, I just do different veg tea......do have a sample pack though......ROOTS has a few products I really like.
 

bubba73

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im still thinking using crustacean meal in my amendment soil , thinking getting kelp and use for my brew days along with castings , oly fish ...still doing some research on some others and see when best used ....
 

zzeroo

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I told YA"LL...great minds lol......yo i have 7 of there products
Mag amp
trinity ......love this, don't use it as much nowadays
plant amp
sour d
sugeree ... I rotate between this and sour d...i dont no why

phos bat guano 070....i think it helps flowering to start faster and set's the site ..i use it like a week before the move to bloom in my tea and one more before week 3

terp tea ...i use this a couple time as well but i can't say why ..my thinking is that different tea's fromdifferents brands will give me more variety...??
 

IrieRoots

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im still thinking using crustacean meal in my amendment soil , thinking getting kelp and use for my brew days along with castings , oly fish ...still doing some research on some others and see when best used ....
You definitely should use crab in your amended soil!! I do crab, kelp, neem as base then lighter additions of alfalfa and frass, plus biochar, kashi, and malted barley.....add minerals, compost, castings, peat and pumice, living soil gold!! With Buildasoils new feed schedule video, he adds enough extras That you wouldn't get bored during the water only style grow.....zzz zzz.....I base A lot of my methods off his videos too.
 

IrieRoots

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I told YA"LL...great minds lol......yo i have 7 of there products
Mag amp
trinity ......love this, don't use it as much nowadays
plant amp
sour d
sugeree ... I rotate between this and sour d...i dont no why

phos bat guano 070....i think it helps flowering to start faster and set's the site ..i use it like a week before the move to bloom in my tea and one more before week 3

terp tea ...i use this a couple time as well but i can't say why ..my thinking is that different tea's fromdifferents brands will give me more variety...??
I too dig Trinity, but don't use as much now.....I want to do a comparison of it to Zues and see the difference as they are both catalysts.
 

bubba73

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You definitely should use crab in your amended soil!! I do crab, kelp, neem as base then lighter additions of alfalfa and frass, plus biochar, kashi, and malted barley.....add minerals, compost, castings, peat and pumice, living soil gold!! With Buildasoils new feed schedule video, he adds enough extras That you wouldn't get bored during the water only style grow.....zzz zzz.....I base A lot of my methods off his videos too.
im gonna have some left over tea and thinking using it im my amended soil to get the microbes going ... thinking throwing in gro - kashi ,frass , barley... already have bokashi , biochar , castings .....
 

IrieRoots

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did little more research on oly mountain fish , works out nicely as a bloom tea .... yes variety is good !!!
I think any high quality compost is good for any stage, it comes down to how long you brew before application. The 24 hour mark is usually a good balance of bacteria/fungi/ protozoa. Most compost have balanced NPK too, like 1-1-1
 

zzeroo

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That's the one thing i do not do... amened my soil (#4 for me})..im traumatized from a bad grow a big one back in the day trying to make super soil smh....lets just say i stay in my line when it comes to that I feel I get almost the same reaction from my plants by making tea's
 

bubba73

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That's the one thing i do not do... amened my soil (#4 for me})..im traumatized from a bad grow a big one back in the day trying to make super soil smh....lets just say i stay in my line when it comes to that I feel I get almost the same reaction from my plants by making tea's

I amended #4 soil ... thats all I use .. now on seedlings ill use a fresh bag #4... but with clones its amended , which Tim has a good video on doing it ...matter of fact im getting ready to see where my ppm/ph is right now on the soil ...
 
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