carl1078lewis
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Hi all,
Spent some time reading other grow journals about Nirvana's Blue Mystic and there really wasn't that much, so I figured I should contribute. I started 2 BM's and 2 #1's on 10/27, soaked the seeds in wet paper towel. Both #1's popped, one BM popped. A few days later, I started 4 more BM's, all of which popped. Seeds go into rockwool plugs as soon as they have a root and into a mini-deep water culture tub that I put together. I have a small grow cabinet for seedlings with a 50 watt LED lamp and a 27 watt CFL bulb. I have room for more lights, but no temp control, so that's all the light that seedlings get.
My grow operation is always changing and hopefully improving. This grow I got a 32"x32"x64" grow tent. I have a couple G-13 Labs poison dwarf autoflowers finishing up in a DWC bucket, but since they're autoflowers I moved my seedlings in with them in the grow tent with 18 hours of light a day. This put the plants under a 400 watt HPS bulb, quite an improvement over LED's. The lamp is about 3 feet above the seedlings so they don't burn-- plenty of space.
Here you can see the seedlings at about 6 days old:
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One problem I ran into right away was that my PH meters had crapped out since my last hydro grow (I grow hydroponically indoors in the winter, outdoors in dirt during the summer), so I was 'flying blind' on the PH for the 1st 2-3 weeks, and the plants suffered for it. When I finally got ahold of a replacement PH meter my solution was 7.5, much higher than I wanted. The bottommost leaves on all the plants were starting to turn yellow from nute lockout. By this point plants had 2-3 sets of leaves, so there was enough on the plants to keep them going in spite of the damaged leaves. Next week the BM's were showing new problems, necrotic spots on the leaves in the middle and bottom of a couple of the plants. After consultation here, I changed out my nute solution, settled for a lower target TDS, and blacked out my mini-DWC tub so light couldn't get into the tub and grow algae in the nute solution and the roots. The roots of ally the plants were pretty heavily coated in algae, and I'm guessing that was the major cause of my problems, as PH was good and TDS wasn't too terribly high (about 800ppm). Through all of this the Mandala #1's looked great and have performed wonderfully, which leaves me to suspect the quality of the BM's.
At this point the plants are just over a month old. They're on their 5th-6th sets of leaves and the larger plants are starting to branch heavily. The tallest BM is about 6 inches high and the smallest is a tiny dwarf under 3 inches. The dwarf had its root damaged while still a seedling so it has an excuse at least. The #1's are taller, 5 inches and 7 inches respectively. I'm not surprised by this as the #1's have sativa in them and are not a 'short' plant. Last indoor grow I did with them they were about 4 feet when finished.
I'll be moving the plants into a bigger tub in the next week or so, and plan to do a SCROG setup to control the height of the plants in this new, fairly short grow tent. Probably won't be necessary for the BM's, but will for the #1's. From what I've read the screen should be about 8 or so inches above the base of the plants, so they've got some growing to do still before I need to worry about it. I've built a 20 gallon resevior out of wood, just need some plastic to line it to waterproof it. I have some 5" net pots to move the plants into when I set them up in their new reservoir. I've kept the PH right around 5.5 and the TDS at about 800ppm and have seen no nute burn or other problems so far beyond my initial problems. A couple of the BM's continue to show necrotic spots on their leaves, but since all the other plants look great, I'm assuming that these are just weak specimens. People badmouth Nirvana a lot, so maybe this is just an example of their budget genetics. I've grown Nirvana's White Widow before but nothing else from the brand. The WW's were excellent quality smoke but light yield. I have no experience with indicas, so just don't really know what to expect from these BM's. Everyone says they're hardy and easier to grow than sativas, but so far my #1's are pwning them. I must say I'm biased, the #1's are the best thing I've grown so far, great quality and yield.
Here you can see my leaf necrosis problems with the BM's:
My plan is to let them veg at least another 2 weeks, get them up to that screen and then covering it a bit. From what I've read you want your screen 70-80% covered before you flip to flower, leaves me to suspect I'll be vegging for more that 2 weeks before that happens, as they're probably at least a week away from even touching a screen 8" above the base of the plants!
Here is a pic a few days ago with the plants in their mini-DWC tub. You can really see the difference in height between the BM's and the #1's. Also you can see the necrotic/yellow leaves that persist on the BM's even though the #1's look fabulous. (the shorter plant to the left of the tall #1 is the 2nd #1, it's about half the height of the tall one, too bad as that means the tall one is probably a male and will be cut down, fingers crossed that the short one is female!)
Ask questions if you have any. I'll try to add pics weekly and keep you all up to date. Hopefully this journal will enlighten someone someday regarding one or both of these strains.
Spent some time reading other grow journals about Nirvana's Blue Mystic and there really wasn't that much, so I figured I should contribute. I started 2 BM's and 2 #1's on 10/27, soaked the seeds in wet paper towel. Both #1's popped, one BM popped. A few days later, I started 4 more BM's, all of which popped. Seeds go into rockwool plugs as soon as they have a root and into a mini-deep water culture tub that I put together. I have a small grow cabinet for seedlings with a 50 watt LED lamp and a 27 watt CFL bulb. I have room for more lights, but no temp control, so that's all the light that seedlings get.
My grow operation is always changing and hopefully improving. This grow I got a 32"x32"x64" grow tent. I have a couple G-13 Labs poison dwarf autoflowers finishing up in a DWC bucket, but since they're autoflowers I moved my seedlings in with them in the grow tent with 18 hours of light a day. This put the plants under a 400 watt HPS bulb, quite an improvement over LED's. The lamp is about 3 feet above the seedlings so they don't burn-- plenty of space.
Here you can see the seedlings at about 6 days old:
View attachment 1912054
One problem I ran into right away was that my PH meters had crapped out since my last hydro grow (I grow hydroponically indoors in the winter, outdoors in dirt during the summer), so I was 'flying blind' on the PH for the 1st 2-3 weeks, and the plants suffered for it. When I finally got ahold of a replacement PH meter my solution was 7.5, much higher than I wanted. The bottommost leaves on all the plants were starting to turn yellow from nute lockout. By this point plants had 2-3 sets of leaves, so there was enough on the plants to keep them going in spite of the damaged leaves. Next week the BM's were showing new problems, necrotic spots on the leaves in the middle and bottom of a couple of the plants. After consultation here, I changed out my nute solution, settled for a lower target TDS, and blacked out my mini-DWC tub so light couldn't get into the tub and grow algae in the nute solution and the roots. The roots of ally the plants were pretty heavily coated in algae, and I'm guessing that was the major cause of my problems, as PH was good and TDS wasn't too terribly high (about 800ppm). Through all of this the Mandala #1's looked great and have performed wonderfully, which leaves me to suspect the quality of the BM's.
At this point the plants are just over a month old. They're on their 5th-6th sets of leaves and the larger plants are starting to branch heavily. The tallest BM is about 6 inches high and the smallest is a tiny dwarf under 3 inches. The dwarf had its root damaged while still a seedling so it has an excuse at least. The #1's are taller, 5 inches and 7 inches respectively. I'm not surprised by this as the #1's have sativa in them and are not a 'short' plant. Last indoor grow I did with them they were about 4 feet when finished.
I'll be moving the plants into a bigger tub in the next week or so, and plan to do a SCROG setup to control the height of the plants in this new, fairly short grow tent. Probably won't be necessary for the BM's, but will for the #1's. From what I've read the screen should be about 8 or so inches above the base of the plants, so they've got some growing to do still before I need to worry about it. I've built a 20 gallon resevior out of wood, just need some plastic to line it to waterproof it. I have some 5" net pots to move the plants into when I set them up in their new reservoir. I've kept the PH right around 5.5 and the TDS at about 800ppm and have seen no nute burn or other problems so far beyond my initial problems. A couple of the BM's continue to show necrotic spots on their leaves, but since all the other plants look great, I'm assuming that these are just weak specimens. People badmouth Nirvana a lot, so maybe this is just an example of their budget genetics. I've grown Nirvana's White Widow before but nothing else from the brand. The WW's were excellent quality smoke but light yield. I have no experience with indicas, so just don't really know what to expect from these BM's. Everyone says they're hardy and easier to grow than sativas, but so far my #1's are pwning them. I must say I'm biased, the #1's are the best thing I've grown so far, great quality and yield.
Here you can see my leaf necrosis problems with the BM's:
My plan is to let them veg at least another 2 weeks, get them up to that screen and then covering it a bit. From what I've read you want your screen 70-80% covered before you flip to flower, leaves me to suspect I'll be vegging for more that 2 weeks before that happens, as they're probably at least a week away from even touching a screen 8" above the base of the plants!
Here is a pic a few days ago with the plants in their mini-DWC tub. You can really see the difference in height between the BM's and the #1's. Also you can see the necrotic/yellow leaves that persist on the BM's even though the #1's look fabulous. (the shorter plant to the left of the tall #1 is the 2nd #1, it's about half the height of the tall one, too bad as that means the tall one is probably a male and will be cut down, fingers crossed that the short one is female!)
Ask questions if you have any. I'll try to add pics weekly and keep you all up to date. Hopefully this journal will enlighten someone someday regarding one or both of these strains.