Nirvana....NOT

flamethrower1

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These are Nirvana Blackberry (non feminized) at around 5 weeks into flowering.
Started with ten and ended up with 4 "females".
The strain seemed to have a great variation in phenos from the start.
The first grow was A mix of Ice and Blackberry feminized and turned out pretty good.
I did everything the same way and as you can see with bad results.
The one plant that is flowering decent has fucking nanners and the others are just plain shit.
I am growing with an aeroponics system as with the first grow.
I have checked and rechecked everything and have come to the conclusion that it has to be the genetics.
No more Nirvana for me
 

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kevin

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looks like they have the overwatered/overfed, claw thing going on. more like plant abuse than genetics. i would cut out the nutrients for a couple of waterings and let the soil dry out between them.
 

flamethrower1

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I am growing in aeroponics and have flushed, lowered the nute level, bought a second ppm meter, checked for light leaks, check my ph daily, check res temps, watch room temps, checked for root problems, I am doing everything the same way I did the first grow and that went well.
I am at a loss and it looks like this grow is fucked.
I took clones but I think that I am going to shitcan them as well.
 

Pureblood89

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Shitty growers try to pass blame off on genetics.

I've grown Blackjack, Northern Light and White Widow from Nirvana, Never had a hermie or the problems you're having.
 

tje22

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Shitty growers try to pass blame off on genetics.

I've grown Blackjack, Northern Light and White Widow from Nirvana, Never had a hermie or the problems you're having.
No need to be meen Pureblood, but i have to agree with you. Those plants dont look too happy imo
 

flamethrower1

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Hey Pureblood thanks for your insightful, constructive and jump to conclusion remark.
This is not my first grow (second grow with this system though).
It is the first one that I am having problems with hence the post on this thread "plant problems".
My last grow yielded a little over a lb from five females doing the exact same thing and the plants looked really good.
Also the plants did not show the dramatic difference in phenos.
That is why I ordered the same kind the second time.
I realise the plants look like shit and have tried everything that I know of to try to correct the problem.
But if it is souly the "shitty grower" thing.
Then why is one plant budding normally and the other three have the losest buds I have ever seen in my life.
I have grown bagseed that looked better then this.
 

Hudsonvalley82

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Still though man, plant genetics don't cause stress, that plant is under some kind of weird stress. It could be something that is not being looked at closely. Im no expert, but if this is your second grow on this system, this is just above a virgin run and far from a perfected process. I have 20 plants from nirvana growing, got great yield, and the rest are flowering like a forest. Claw leaves and curling are a plants way of trying to tell you something, nanners come from stressing the shit out of the plant, which it is pretty apparent that the plants are stressed. I would take an uneducated guess and say that, possibly it has something to do with calcium or mg? But still, I don't grow in aeroponics. I would put some posts up in hydroponic thread as well and try to see if anyone knows better. Someone may have already encountered this and knows exactly what it is.

Either way, if it is genetics, I would call nirvana and let them know. But genetics are the last thing to possibly blame it on. This looks like a problem with something out of the ordinary and a bit more elusive than a simple def or burn. I can see the tips of your leaves are a touch burnt to. Every batch of plants will react differently to each environment. With that in mind, and noting that this is a second grow in that system, and this strain did well in the first grow draws my attention to anywhere but genetics.

I hope a solution comes swiftly and doesn't sacrifice the grow.

Hey Pureblood thanks for your insightful, constructive and jump to conclusion remark.
This is not my first grow (second grow with this system though).
It is the first one that I am having problems with hence the post on this thread "plant problems".
My last grow yielded a little over a lb from five females doing the exact same thing and the plants looked really good.
Also the plants did not show the dramatic difference in phenos.
That is why I ordered the same kind the second time.
I realise the plants look like shit and have tried everything that I know of to try to correct the problem.
But if it is souly the "shitty grower" thing.
Then why is one plant budding normally and the other three have the losest buds I have ever seen in my life.
I have grown bagseed that looked better then this.
 

flamethrower1

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Hey Hudsonvalley82,
Thanks for your info, I guessI am just frustrated and you are more then likely correct.
I did send an email to Nirvana the other day and got an email back that they are going to send me new beans.
Just kind of sucks to put all this time in and have things end up this way.
I will post in the aero/hydro section and see if I can get some answers.
Again, thanks for your time and advice.
 

Hudsonvalley82

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NP Man. It really gets nuts at times, that either your not doing something, or your doing something and you shouldn't be, or even worse your doing something, just not appropiately (my case most of the time). I am learning quite a bit from my first couple of grows, and if I have learned anything from them it is that the problem is usually my genetics, not the plants.

It doesn't look like its too far gone yet, but it def looks like a yield set back. Shit, even if you can scramble just a zip per plant that will at least cover operating cost for the most part. What kind of light do you have above those? If it isn't HID I would try a foliate feeding immediately.
 
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