Nitrogen nutes during flower?

calvin.m16 said:

I guess with those super high numbers I'm achieving that essentially when running liquid fertilizer on a daily basis in coco? Weird how you have such high numbers lol but I do understand its slower breakdown.

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They are high, but you also use less. Those ferts are what many farmers use for food crops.

Wattzzup said:

I would love others opinions on this. Because I’ve been told not to even check runoff. But I do and have had this happen. The runoff ph was higher and I was sketchy about adding nutrients so I waited. It got higher and the plant got worse. Fed it and it dropped and the plant improved.

doesn’t make it a fact but I would love more info/opinions

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After reading up to this comment I'm curious as to what are the actual facts myself. I too had a super high runoff ppm of 3100 one time.I was only feeding around 950 ppm. I flushed it down to 250 ppm and fed 50% dose of grow nutes, and 25% dose of tiger bloom on the last pour.. She got worse after a few days. It was my 1st plant. I didn't think nothing was going too crazy, but she still burned up worse after the flush and light feeding. She was already 7-8wks into flower.

Hydro, coco, soil, peat. I've used this for years with excellent results.

Part A - micronutrients & B - calcium nitrate for veg and in flower just add part C - MPK. Mid flower I might add some magnesium sulfate and or potassium sulfate and towards the end of flower I just taper the strength down. It's similar to Jacks and other basic nutrients others use with great success. Nothing fancy but I've had no issues and better results in the years I've been using it. Prior to this I went through various cannabis specific nutrients and encountered many of the same nutrient issues many growers seem to have.

When runoff was 3100, could the plant have been really Dry?? Drier than you thought, and then watered/and/or fed? This will concentrate dissolved solids, and give a super high reading, and can/will also burn them. If it was also fed the normal 950 this will also add to the high ppm reading.

Just a thought.

calvin.m16 said:

I guess with those super high numbers I'm achieving that essentially when running liquid fertilizer on a daily basis in coco? Weird how you have such high numbers lol but I do understand its slower breakdown.

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Those high numbers also equal out to 1:1:2 Ratio

getogrow said:

yes. give her 2 doses of "veg food" (grow big) It will help a LOT. You should not be fading to yellow this early in their cycle. FFOF soil is inconsistent. i love it but its not thwe same every time. sometimes i gotta add grow big and sometimes i wont use any veg food in bloom. No big deal at all. 2 doses of GB , then back to your regular schedule. (be very carful with the fox farm nute schedule , its too strong for almost all species)

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Mannnn i gotta start adding some Grow Big during flower sometimes then too! I thought i could only use the Tiger bloom

jimihendrix1 said:

When runoff was 3100, could the plant have been really Dry?? Drier than you thought, and then watered/and/or fed? This will concentrate dissolved solids, and give a super high reading, and can/will also burn them. If it was also fed the normal 950 this will also add to the high ppm reading.

Just a thought.

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It could have been a little more on the dry side than I thought. Then again with my 1st plant I didn't think too much.
I have since started watering when the pot got lighter, but I can still feel cool dampness on the bottom of the fabric pot.
Haven't seen numbers like that anymore.

calvin.m16 said:

I guess with those super high numbers I'm achieving that essentially when running liquid fertilizer on a daily basis in coco? Weird how you have such high numbers lol but I do understand its slower breakdown.

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Its not slower breakdown. Its all instant chemicals. Same as your bottle just much stronger. hence you use way less. (they are already broke down)

calvin.m16 said:

There is a reason there are multiple bottles. You ever tried mixing those products all in 1 container and see what happens? lol

Sure 1 part products can be "complete" and do the job but they will never compete like with lines that have supplemental additives. I don't care if you're Kyle Kushman or any other world class weed grower its not happening.

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I already told you the reason they dont mix these together in liquid form. its because of the P and the Ca. they should not be mixed into liquid for more then a few minutes/hours. Thats literally the only reason they dont sell an all in one liquid. All the one part foods are in powder form. They work the same as any other food. Food is food. period. who the fuck is kyle kushman ?! ANY GOOD grower knows exactly what im saying.

Those are facts. my own style and opinions may differ.

Im a gardener , so i like to have supplemental N, K , Ca, and Mag laying around. Not to mention the yucca, neem oil, lime, EWC ect.... So im no different then most growers , i have 53 bottles of stuff too. All in all , the one part would work great for weed but i want the rest for houseplants, sick moms, ect.