Noob wants to show you guys something!

i use 10 42 watters and am always tempted on adding more ,but seriously how many more can i add ,my guess is 10 42 watt cfls throw off the same amount of heat as 1 400 watt hps ,the reason i don't use 1 is height limitations with a 400 watt hps i would lose about another foot in height which i can't spare.

i agree with luckybleu only use a cfl if you have to ie stealth grows. i used a cfl in my first grow because i was shitting myself about being caught lol but then i saw the amout of bud i got off my 2 plants and thought fuck this, switched to 6 plants under a 600w HPS and they are almost as big as my CFL grow finished at after only just under 4 weeks i really am over the moon with the diffrence.

HPS all the way

fir3dragon said:

damn whats your setup? how long do you veg for?

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Well now I use 2 400w HiD tents..one for veg, one for flower...I veg around 3 weeks or so...sometimes I use soil, sometimes coco...I feed very lightly, and a lot of training and each plant gets me right around 3 oz...
Some might net 2.75 while another might be 3.25, but it all works out to around 3 oz per plant...I get as many ounces as weeks I veg...I vegged one plant for 6 weeks and got 6 oz, I regularly veg for 3 weeks and get 3 oz...with enough veg for a clone to root I get one ounce...which is usually around one week...
I haven't worked at it, or tried for this number...I think it has more to do with the training and shape of said plants than anything else.

missnu said:

Well now I use 2 400w HiD tents..one for veg, one for flower...I veg around 3 weeks or so...sometimes I use soil, sometimes coco...I feed very lightly, and a lot of training and each plant gets me right around 3 oz...
Some might net 2.75 while another might be 3.25, but it all works out to around 3 oz per plant...I get as many ounces as weeks I veg...I vegged one plant for 6 weeks and got 6 oz, I regularly veg for 3 weeks and get 3 oz...with enough veg for a clone to root I get one ounce...which is usually around one week...
I haven't worked at it, or tried for this number...I think it has more to do with the training and shape of said plants than anything else.

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ah, see i been getting 1 oz per plant but thats because i veg for 1 week, and im still a newb at things. i always wondered how to get ounces off 1 plant. since im just starting a new grow, im gonna veg 3-5 weeks how many plants u put under the 400w?

I'm doing apartment grow so have to be super stealth and small, but that isn't stopping me from using HPS. The way I see it... if I'm gonna dump 150-200$ on CFL... why not just buy HPS instead?

Its no secret I love CFL's, purely for my current grow. Not so much flourescent tubes, but more dedicated high wattage CFL bulbs, and as many as practical. You can of course grow some nice assed bud using CFL's, IF its done right and you do the maths to make sure you don't run too thin. I also like the fact they're easier to control temp wise and I'm paranoid for fires etc. Heres my current CFL grow, its a jungle:



BUT, that said, you can only go so far with them. If you want the best kick ass weed and the highest yield you need more light, which MH/HPS can provide, of course there are pro's and con's with them too, but if you want the best possible results indoors, you need the strongest possible lighting. Growing a few plants with CFL is fine, but if you want each plant to stand a better chance of reaching its full genetic potential and yield, you need the right setup. A couple of 4' flourescent tubes will work, but don't expect big yields or anywhere near the seeds genetic potential. Especially if you're using cheap assed seeds, cheap lighting etc, good luck with your monster plant grow, I love an optimist.

My next setup will use either MH or HPS 400 or 600w purely as the top center light, and I'll use the CFL's to supplement the side lighting. Best of both worlds. Depends on your own goals, space and ability to invest cash though I guess. I'm broke, and live a pretty humble life, but as long as I can grow my own decent weed, you know what, I'm happy where I am in life, I cope alright

8 weeks of 600 MH and 7 weeks of 600 HPS, at the time of this shot, will bring you good things. most likely harvesting 3 from this shot tonight. 7 plants in total

fir3dragon said:

ah, see i been getting 1 oz per plant but thats because i veg for 1 week, and im still a newb at things. i always wondered how to get ounces off 1 plant. since im just starting a new grow, im gonna veg 3-5 weeks how many plants u put under the 400w?

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I can flower 4 3oz sized plants max...
If I don't train as much as I do now, then the plants are taller and skinnier and I can fit more, but each one yields less...so I make them all short and bushy with a lot of tops and can only fit 4...but I get more off those 4 than I get from a lighter trained 6...

In veg I have been known to stack pots on pots, and generally it is just a jungle of all kinds of plants..but MJ doesn't need as much space or light in veg, and I make use of that fact...I think I have 7 or 8 in veg now...but I also have 2 tomato clones, a houseplant, and a clone of said houseplant, another clone of a different houseplant, a cucumber plant, and I think that is all...nope nope nope, a swiss chard and a bell pepper plant... So...lots in veg, no more than 4 in flower...Know what...I could probably fit in 12 1 oz plants...but just like I prefer having 4 3 oz, to 2 6 oz..I feel like 4 3 oz plants is not too hard to move around, and keep up with...although I do often ponder 2 6 oz plants... I wonder if I could just do 2 huge plants in big totes..bet I could get more than 12oz/per cycle, which is my tops now...Hmmm....This last flowering cycle is to signal the end of my current Mj growing, but I plan on starting back up as soon as I feel I can safely do so...thus all the veggies crowding out the MJ in veg...I may have snuck a clone in flower as well that I was supposed to be getting rid of...but again I will crowd it with veggies til it is done...

So...I feel like if I used a large enough pot I could still get as many oz as weeks of veg...but my largest yield was 6 oz from one plant, that was extensively trained and had vegged for 6 weeks and was in a 10 gallon pot...of which there is only room for 2...I just have too many strains in clone form that I can't just wait to flower you know...so 3 weeks has just been the time I stick with because about 3 weeks of growth is all my veg tent can handle..the reason I say I veg for 3 weeks is because for the last month of flower my veg tent is exploding with clones, because I take a clone and then flower the plant I cloned from--so put the large plant in flower and leave the clone to grow...well in a month the clone has gotten too large to flower in a 3 gallon pot, which is easier to carry back and forth, because I water with the shower...so...I like 3 gallon pots, but sometimes use 5 gallons...Anyway---after a month the plants are at my personal preference size to flower...so I take a clone of the clone, and toss the larger of the 2...starting the clone process over for the second month..one week to grow roots, 3 weeks til a spot in flower opens. It isn't terribly efficient the way I have been doing things...a lot of plants have had to be killed for no reason...I gave quite a few away, but I have more to toss all the time...I have a large sour kush in veg that I need to hack back down...I have a Colombian Gold that I have freaking bonzai-ed...not on purpose, but as a byproduct of having too many different strains that have to be kept alive til they get a flower spot...I have a hard time killing off a strain...But sometimes in veg I just keep chopping them back and back and back instead of repotting or cloning...I mean I won't flower this plant anyway, and I know I can't flower any clone of it I take...i would do better to kill the clones and plants I have, but I just can't do it...I am hoping the same person that wanted my extraneous plants at the beginning of the season will take these now...they grow outdoor and I supplied most of their plants this year, through seeds and clones...and they will all stay small if put out now as small as they are, except the older 2, but they are just shrubs now because i have been cutting them back for 3 months...

Jeezus, I smoked too much look at this freaking post...

lokie said:

8 weeks of 600 MH and 7 weeks of 600 HPS, at the time of this shot, will bring you good things. most likely harvesting 3 from this shot tonight. 7 plants in total
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Those looks awesome!

RollupRick said:

Its no secret I love CFL's, purely for my current grow. Not so much flourescent tubes, but more dedicated high wattage CFL bulbs, and as many as practical. You can of course grow some nice assed bud using CFL's, IF its done right and you do the maths to make sure you don't run too thin. I also like the fact they're easier to control temp wise and I'm paranoid for fires etc. Heres my current CFL grow, its a jungle:

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BUT, that said, you can only go so far with them. If you want the best kick ass weed and the highest yield you need more light, which MH/HPS can provide, of course there are pro's and con's with them too, but if you want the best possible results indoors, you need the strongest possible lighting. Growing a few plants with CFL is fine, but if you want each plant to stand a better chance of reaching its full genetic potential and yield, you need the right setup. A couple of 4' flourescent tubes will work, but don't expect big yields or anywhere near the seeds genetic potential. Especially if you're using cheap assed seeds, cheap lighting etc, good luck with your monster plant grow, I love an optimist.

My next setup will use either MH or HPS 400 or 600w purely as the top center light, and I'll use the CFL's to supplement the side lighting. Best of both worlds. Depends on your own goals, space and ability to invest cash though I guess. I'm broke, and live a pretty humble life, but as long as I can grow my own decent weed, you know what, I'm happy where I am in life, I cope alright

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Once you have a MH in veg and see it in action, you will see that CFLs aren't needed as side lighting...and I only have a 400...but a CFL isn't going to do anything but block light the MH is putting out...end up with a shadow of a lit bulb...lol.

I see no reason to take the risk to grow my own, if I can't really GROW my own...I needed more...and now I am all snooty and used to really good pot...so the stuff I buy would be trash to me now...lol.

Never paid more than $40 a quarter...I mean that not as in I got a deal, but damn I was smoking ditch weed for years...
Sometimes friends had good weed, and it was like damn that is good weed, but then I found out the price, and hell no... But it turns out I can grow my own super expensive pot for less than I paid for the cheap shit I was tossing money for.

kine bud is 120$ a quarter around here, and it's more like just decent sensei. When people actually get quality shit they want to charge more for it... and it's like, 120 a quarter is top of the line price, dank as fuck shit is what you should be selling anyway at that price, not fucking seedless schwag under the guise of kine.

Your state laws might provide some influence on whether it is better to grow two 6oz plants or twelve 1oz plants. Because of laws where I live, I won't grow more than 6 plants, and that includes clones, seedlings, flower, or veg.

Do you feel the difference in veg time would be significant with a mh vs a hps? I only have a hps and use it for veg, but I feel like I'm missing out.

I don't think so...I have never vegged with HPS, but I have flowered with MH and it turned out just the same as with HPS....
I have seen people on here that say they veg and flower with HPS, but I can't personally say anything one way or another...I don't use HPS anymore...lol. Figured if the plants didn't need orange light that I didn't need the added heat...

those T5 prob cost over $100 for the fixture right?..i mean i paid $125 for a 400w set up (reflector,ballast, MH and HPS bulb, and hangers) and its an everyday deal on amazon and for $40 more u can get a 600w set up. idk its not as expensive as ppl make it.

I use MH in veg, and CMH in flower now.

And legally anytime you can have fewer plants you should...but I like the ease of fem seeds...I like that I can order one seed, and get a plant I like...I like that I can turn that one plant into many plants.

missnu said:

perhaps...I couldn't keep up with my needs using CFLs...and I had a few of the larger ones...one 125w and a 250w, not the equivalency...sucked man...even for just one plant...but now I can flower out 3 or 4 3 oz plants at a time...and that is more more more than enough for me...

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i call BULLSHIT! no way in hell u get 3oz off that pathetic plant from cfls you posted, you prob get 7gs dry!!

purple flowers said:

i call BULLSHIT! no way in hell u get 3oz off that pathetic plant from cfls you posted, you prob get 7gs dry!!

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hes not the op dip shit.

all i can say is expect small baby nugs!!

what soil and nutes are you using?

I bet you could have gotten better buds with cfl's imo. those buds are kute tho.