North Korea says its missiles can reach US

fb360 · Oct 10, 2012

an11dy9 said:
Actually that's exactly what they were trying to do. Get a rocket into space. They claimed it was for a satellite, many speculated it was for a nuclear warhead. It got what, a mile or two up and it fell apart. It was destroyed, kinda like what I'm doing to your post. Now who sounds "particularly stupid"?

And No, you're wrong. North Korea has no capabilities to put a warhead, satellite, or rocket into space, just as I explain, they tried it a few months ago. And failed. Like you right now.

Really, like me?

So that nuclear warhead that they tested, didn't make it to space, and fell apart, what happened with the ka-boom my friend? It just fell apart, and fell back to earth, graciously not exploding? They obviously didn't attempt to go all out and send a large, high energy weapon into space you buffoon. Much like I mentioned in the last statement, as well as the edit, of my post.

If you believe that a country that has the capabilities to design, develop and construct a nuclear device, cannot send an object into space, you are moronic.
If you believe that russia gave north korea their nukes, and that north korea does not possess the required technology or intelligence, then what is keeping russia from sending one over that can make it to space.

Either way, your argument is horrible

good try, come again

an11dy9 · Oct 10, 2012

Samwell Seed Well said:
know a guy who was just there, he says where he was is nothing like the media says it all is

May I ask what he was there for? From what I understand they don't really let many people in. Actually, if i recall correctly, the documentary we are referring to stated that that eye doctor and his assistants/secretive film crew were perhaps the only westerners in the country at that particular time. Unless you're traveling from China- but then you are there as part of a tour group and they specifically don't show you anything bad. As a matter of fact they only show you what they want- the good- I guess the good?

Harrekin · Oct 10, 2012

fb360 said:
Really, like me?

So that nuclear warhead that they tested, didn't make it to space, and fell apart, what happened with the ka-boom my friend? It just fell apart, and fell back to earth, graciously not exploding? They obviously didn't attempt to go all out and send a large, high energy weapon into space you buffoon. Much like I mentioned in the last statement, as well as the edit of my post.

If you believe that a country that has the capabilities to design, develop and construct and nuclear device, cannot send an object into space, you are moronic.
If you believe that russia gave north korea their nukes, and that north korea does not possess the required technology, then what is keeping russia from sending one that can make it to space.

Either way, your argument is horrible

good try, come again

If you think a nuke just "goes off" as the result of an external explosion then you shouldn't be talking about nukes, cos you obviously havnt the slightest fucking clue how they work.

fb360 · Oct 10, 2012

Harrekin said:
If you think a nuke just "goes off" as the result of an external explosion then you shouldn't be talking about nukes, cos you obviously havnt the slightest fucking clue how they work.

LOL and you do?

Please Sherlock, riddle me how a warhead detonates

e; And I would say out of everyone in this entire forum, my collective knowledge about engineering missiles, far exceeds theirs.
Go ahead buddy, tell me what I'm not good at

Harrekin · Oct 10, 2012

fb360 said:
LOL and you do?

Please Sherlock, riddle me how a warhead detonates

The new type or the old type?

an11dy9 · Oct 10, 2012

fb360 said:
Really, like me?

So that nuclear warhead that they tested, didn't make it to space, and fell apart, what happened with the ka-boom my friend? It just fell apart, and fell back to earth, graciously not exploding? They obviously didn't attempt to go all out and send a large, high energy weapon into space you buffoon. Much like I mentioned in the last statement, as well as the edit of my post.

If you believe that a country that has the capabilities to design, develop and construct and nuclear device, cannot send an object into space, you are moronic.
If you believe that russia gave north korea their nukes, and that north korea does not possess the required technology, then what is keeping russia from sending one that can make it to space.

Either way, your argument is horrible

good try, come again

Read my post. They launched a rocket- that rocket they claimed was for technology to launch a satellite into space. Many speculated that if successful, it would be used for a nuclear warhead instead. It failed. You failed. Give it up. I wouldn't be so harsh on you if you didn't say "particularly stupid". Just ask brother! I'll be nice. Promise!

fb360 · Oct 10, 2012

Harrekin said:
The new type or the old type?

What do you mean lol...

I've already posted pictures of my DOD, government UAV work to UncleBuck in this section. Why don't you just ask him if I'm shitting you

an11dy9 said:
Read my post. They launched a rocket- that rocket they claimed was for technology to launch a satellite into space. Many speculated that if successful, it would be used for a nuclear warhead instead. It failed. You failed. Give it up. I wouldn't be so harsh on you if you didn't say "particularly stupid". Just ask brother! I'll be nice. Promise!

Why don't you listen to yourself, and read my post.

You are clearly naive if you think a country that we KNOW posses NUCLEAR WEAPONS, cannot send an object to space. I even gave you my clear logic reasoning!

an11dy9 · Oct 10, 2012

Harrekin said:
If you think a nuke just "goes off" as the result of an external explosion then you shouldn't be talking about nukes, cos you obviously havnt the slightest fucking clue how they work.

I too was going to say that, but I didn't bother.. We would have gotten of point and he surely would have pandered. Thanks for pointing that out though!!!

Samwell Seed Well · Oct 10, 2012

an11dy9 said:
May I ask what he was there for? From what I understand they don't really let many people in. Actually, if i recall correctly, the documentary we are referring to stated that that eye doctor and his assistants/secretive film crew were perhaps the only westerners in the country at that particular time. Unless you're traveling from China- but then you are there as part of a tour group and they specifically don't show you anything bad. As a matter of fact they only show you what they want- the good- I guess the good?

if i remember correctly he was there lending AID to a village . . . . . to be honest all i remember is he got in there through china, guy might have a canadian passport not sure

fb360 · Oct 10, 2012

an11dy9 said:
I too was going to say that, but I didn't bother.. We would have gotten of point and he surely would have pandered. Thanks for pointing that out though!!!

You too would have been incorrect and looked just as foolish.

Like I've mentioned. I've already posted pictures of UAVS CONTAINING WARHEADS I was part of the engineering team on, for the DOD, worth well over millions of dollars.

Harrekin · Oct 10, 2012

fb360 said:
What do you mean lol...

I've already posted pictures of my DOD, government UAV work to UncleBuck in this section. Why don't you just ask him if I'm shitting you

Well since you're such a genius (obviously), you're probably aware that fission bombs (by specific design) cannot be detonated by an external force. Why do you think they're so fucking hard to make? If it was a case of "lighting" or just "exploding" the uranium, every dickhead in the world would have an arsenal of them.

Im way to high to go into the specifics and this isn't the place, but it involves lots of little bits being squished together just right and if you do it REALLY carefully, the "mass with be critical" as they say.

Please cite one example, any example, of a nuclear weapon going off as a result of being set on fire or as the result of an external explosion.

Just cos you clean the toilets in a Government building doesn't make you James Bond

an11dy9 · Oct 10, 2012

fb360 said:
What do you mean lol...

I've already posted pictures of my DOD, government UAV work to UncleBuck in this section. Why don't you just ask him if I'm shitting you

Why don't you listen to yourself, and read my post.

You are clearly naive if you think a country that we KNOW posses NUCLEAR WEAPONS, cannot send an object to space. I even gave you my clear logic reasoning!

They tried you fool! That's what I'm saying.. and they failed... Like you... Would you like me to find an article? Perhaps you'll believe me then.

Samwell Seed Well · Oct 10, 2012

fb360 said:
LOL and you do?

Please Sherlock, riddle me how a warhead detonates

e; And I would say out of everyone in this entire forum, my collective knowledge about engineering missiles, far exceeds theirs.
Go ahead buddy, tell me what I'm not good at

when what you claim to know more than some on else is only a Google search away, it makes little sense to argue with him, do you know how nukes are triggered, and do you think that an external explosion will detonate them, as i also firmly belive that they re designed to not detonate with unless triggered this includes external heat or explosions(to a degree i assume)

but please flex some brain and enlighten us onhow a external explotion or heat/energy with detonate a nuclear warhead or any kind of style

an11dy9 · Oct 10, 2012

Quote button screwy again, 2nd time tonight... Read above.

fb360 · Oct 10, 2012

Harrekin said:
Well since you're such a genius (obviously), you're probably aware that fission bombs (by specific design) cannot be detonated by an external force. Why do you think they're so fucking hard to make? If it was a case of "lighting" or just "exploding" the uranium, every dickhead in the world would have an arsenal of them.

Im way to high to go into the specifics and this isn't the place, but it involves lots of little bits being squished together just right and if you do it REALLY carefully, the "mass with be critical" as they say.

Please cite one example, any example, of a nuclear weapon going off as a result of being set on fire or as the result of an external explosion.

Just cos you clean the toilets in a Government building doesn't make you James Bond

That's not what I said at all. I said that when it impacted earth (causing a firing mechanism to create a catalytic reaction), it goes ka-boom. Like your argument against mine.
It's the same technology we used on our nukes that we "DROPPED" on japan.
Hence the coined phrase, "dropping the bomb"

I didn't say that an external explosion can cause a nuke to detonate... I merely pointed out to andy that the North Koreans didn't give their discussed missile launch everything they have.

Samwell Seed Well · Oct 10, 2012

fb360 said:
Really, like me?

So that nuclear warhead that they tested, didn't make it to space, and fell apart, what happened with the ka-boom my friend? It just fell apart, and fell back to earth, graciously not exploding? They obviously didn't attempt to go all out and send a large, high energy weapon into space you buffoon. Much like I mentioned in the last statement, as well as the edit, of my post.

If you believe that a country that has the capabilities to design, develop and construct a nuclear device, cannot send an object into space, you are moronic.
If you believe that russia gave north korea their nukes, and that north korea does not possess the required technology or intelligence, then what is keeping russia from sending one over that can make it to space.

Either way, your argument is horrible

good try, come again

how is selling a nuke and launching a nuke similar in intent in or in any way other than the noun nuke being used

talk about logic . . .

fb360 · Oct 10, 2012

Samwell Seed Well said:
how is selling a nuke and launching a nuke similar in any way other than the noun nuke

talk about logic . . .

My argument was that North Korea possess nukes that I believe CAN reach the US.

If they were to get a nuke from Russia (A power house in terms of technology), it would likely possess the ability to reach the US.

My logic is sound, yours isnt

Samwell Seed Well · Oct 10, 2012

fb360 said:
That's not what I said at all. I said that when it impacted earth (causing a firing mechanism to create a catalytic reaction), it goes ka-boom. Like your argument against mine.
It's the same technology we used on our nukes that we "DROPPED" on japan.
Hence the coined phrase, "dropping the bomb"

I didn't say that an external explosion can cause a nuke to detonate... I merely pointed out to andy that the North Koreans didn't give their discussed missile launch everything they have.

how does this firing mechanism work when it hits the earth?

Harrekin · Oct 10, 2012

fb360 said:
That's not what I said at all. I said that when it impacted earth (causing a firing mechanism to create a catalytic reaction), it goes ka-boom. Like your argument against mine.
It's the same technology we used on our nukes that we "DROPPED" on japan.
Hence the coined phrase, "dropping the bomb"

No, the nukes dropped on Japan had altitude/pressure sensors that detonated the bomb, as designed, you fucking retard.

Do you SERIOUSLY think they detonate on impact? Is this the fucking 40's or something? They're not fired by artillery pieces anymore genius.

Tell me specifically how an impact causes a nuke to go critical?

Samwell Seed Well · Oct 10, 2012

fb360 said:
My argument was that North Korea possess nukes that I believe CAN reach the US.

If they were to get a nuke from Russia (A power house in terms of technology), it would likely possess the ability to reach the US.

My logic is sound, yours isnt

thats not what i was talking about but ok your logic is "likely sound" got to love conditional logic

plausible does not mean logical

well i guess we better fear all these WMD right, cause its plausible

hell any country could buy one form russia . . .its likely that any country with money woudl and could by a nuke and then the next logic step is to assume they can and want to luanch it ICB missle style or space style whatevert fear propaganda has your clit this week

makes sense, super logic, like drooling upside down

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