Northern Lights X BB auto & Speed Devil auto

Cloudz2600

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Ya think? lol. Lights out from 8pm-12pm, so it's been off 30 minutes. Temp is 86 now. Maybe the curling was due to heat stress. Any ideas on the co2? Not sure if I can run it with an open door.
 

Lady.J

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To be honest, I read that Co2 might not really be that significant in a small area. It's more like a thing that makes you feel good and like you're doing something to help lol. Heat stress can definitely make the tips curl down, I remember reading that too. Ventilation will actually help you get more Co2 to your plants and help keep it cool. Before I made an outtake on my box, my temps were really high. When I put a fan in the outtake, they dropped considerably. If you can only have one fan, make sure that it's blowing the stale air out! You can't lose with an outtake, only win!
 

Cloudz2600

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So in addition to having my door open I should have my fan blowing air not on the plants, but out the door? Don't me on the plants (I experienced wind burn on my first grow), but in the general area.
 

Lady.J

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Sorry I wasn't clear! Is there a way that you can get air out without having the door open? It is good to have air blowing out and having air blowing on your plants at the same time. If you can figure out a way to do this, you shouldn't have to open the door.
 

Lady.J

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^^^This is what made me end up sealing my box with another on top, so I could control the environment better. Have no idea how I would have ventilated my closet because I live in an apartment.
 

Cloudz2600

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Yea same thing, I can't exactly tear down walls or anything. Another fan isnt anything, but 10-15 bucks. I need to buy one anyway, my room gets crap ventilation. I can't imagine how I could vent my closet with the door closed. I could do what you're doing and I'll need to do it anyway when I move...

For now though, could I have the door open, have a standing fan blowing air out and the smaller fan I alreaddy have blowing air on the fans? I'm growing autoflowers so light leaks aren't an issue. Although having that stupid light on for 20/4 and my door open is going to be a slight issue when I try and sleep lol.

Also I noticed the 2nd set of leaves of the Blue Mammoth starting to do some serious curling too. Glad I went out and bought that temp gauge when I did.
 

Lady.J

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In a closet, a fan blowing out of the door won't be adequate ventilation...or people wouldn't even waste their time with all the ducting and extra measures of evacuating air. Those bins aren't that expensive, you're better off grabbing another and setting up your box now...also putting those plants in that box and not having a top on is letting more light escape than you think. If you have a top, you can use a material to reflect the light back onto your babies and make them grow even better. However, if you are set to continue growing the way that you are, you might want an air conditioning unit in there. Even if your box is well ventilated, you would have to move it to a cooler room because it will still have issues being surrounded by a hot closet with stale air. So I guess you have some thinking to do! Let me know if I can help, and be sure to post what you come up with! I'm smoking all night and camping on the forums lol.
 

Cloudz2600

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Not much of a choice really. Guess I got some pricing to do. Wal-mart should have most of the stuff I need right? Don't suppose you have a list for all the stuff I'll need to make what you have?

Yea temp is steady at 84F during lights out. Probably looking at 90F with the lights on. In retrospect I'm surprised that survived, let alone grew.
 

Cloudz2600

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Ugh looking at the bins at wal-mart.com, you found a great deal at 12 bucks a pop. They're 50 for 4 now. They gotta sell them individually, not every needs 4 35 gallons. I should really read before I ask lol, you pretty much say you got everything at wal-mart.
 

Lady.J

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I think I listed mostly everything at the beginning of my grow...lol I am being lazy because I am supposed to be rolling a blunt for my boyfriend and I :lol:. But yes, Wal-Mart has everything. Tell you what, if you look at the start of my grow and are still a little shaky on what to get, I will list everything here for you!
 

Cloudz2600

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Haha yea I did, damn you're lucky lol. I'm out and I refuse to buy anymore lol.

EDIT: I actually have the same light clamps as you lol. I bought mine at wal-mart as well. Only thing I'm not too sure about is the soldering iron. So many types on the website. When you get a chance(take your time and roll dat fatty) would you mind linking me or just telling me which kind you got? The way you did it all seems brutally simple, which is awesome. Only thing I'd need to buy is either a 2nd 30 gallon bin or 2 35s, the iron and I guess I'll buy the windshield reflector. Setting up the e-blanket gave me a headache trying to get it to fit.

Forgive me for being a bit lazy, but did you ever add any fans in?
 

Lady.J

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I was in the same boat for weeks! I recently came into funds and was finally able to indulge :). So you want a list then right? **Rolls up sleeves**. It might take a little bit, but I'll finish it for you before the night is over.
 

Cloudz2600

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Funds aren'teven an issue lol. I just refuse to buy on the principle that I can(and will) grow my own. I need a t-break anyway or at least that's what I'm telling myself lol.
 

Lady.J

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Lol wow...I really admire you for that. Felt the same way, but am weak minded when it comes to Mary and I caved in. Did manage to go a couple weeks and only hit my neighbor's random blunts a couple times.

Used a soldering iron at lot like this one http://www.walmart.com/ip/Performance-W2013-Pencil-Soldering-Iron/15127898?findingMethod=rr . Was around 5 bucks in the craft section. It came with different pieces and I used the one that was at an angle because it seemed to cut through the bin easier. Make sure you are in a well ventilated room and using a mask when you are soldering...the burning plastic can't be a good thing to inhale and I underestimated how much fumes there would be! Ended up putting a hanky on my face. It stinks big time too. If you're able to do it outside, that would be even better.

Am only using one fan, its at the 4x4 outtake cut out I made in the upper right hand corner. At the time I didn't have funds for two PC fans, but read that you can get away with just an outtake for a while.
 

Cloudz2600

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Not sure of the specifications of this, it went to a paint fixer for cars or something like that. Would this work? No reason to buy another if I have 1 ya know? Yea I was looking at that one too. Oh and I can't take the little disk off. And thanks for the tip, I was going to just do it in my room lol.

Any specific PC fan? The reason I didn't want to do a true stealth grow was because I would need to buy all these stupid parts and I hate shopping lol.

Oh I'm totally wanting some green right now believe me, makes it worse that I could buy it. I'm only day 3 w/o though, we'll see lol.
 

Lady.J

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Your control over yourself is superior to mine def lol. That thing gets super hot right? If so I don't see why you can't use it. You can use any 4x4 or 120mm X 120mm PC fan. If you were trying to find a resourceful way to power it, you can strip an old cell phone charger's wires and wire it to the fan (use electrical tape!). I had to buy an AC / DC converter from Radioshack because of course I couldn't find any of my old chargers!
 

Cloudz2600

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I've literally got a box full of all the chargers I've had over the past like...10 years lol. Not much of an electrical guy and I don't like sloppy work that could possibly kill me if I decide to get high and touch stuff. I'm guessing the PC fan to convert is a pretty simple and clean? And yea I'm guessing if it's supposed to melt paint onto a car to fix patches that I should be hot enough to melt a thin layer of plastic. I really just don't want to buy 4 stupid bins. Did you order your fan or buy it in store? Also how much CFM did you get/would recommend?
 

Lady.J

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I was scared of the electrical part too!! But if you cross the wires, the only thing that happens is that the fan will blow backwards :-o. Do a youtube search, you're more capable than you think. Put electrical tape around the exposed part (of course you're doing all this while the charger is unplugged) and it's legit. Oh by the way, PC fans are 12 volts, most phone chargers are half that, so you won't get the true potential power of the fan. In that aspect, an AC / DC converer would be better. Do note that you still will have to connect wires manually (similar to how you can do a charger). The more expensive converters have you push the wire into a plug that attaches to the fan, and then plug it into the power supply. Is this too much info? lol I'm ridiculous when I'm high.
 

Lady.J

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Oh and as for the fan...if you're being sensible money-wise, online has some good deals if you shop around. I used to build computers and Tiger Direct was my sh-t for prices. But I didn't want to wait and do all that, went to Radioshack and paid 25 bucks. It was the better of the fans and I had it so thought, why not!
 
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