not flushing chemical fertilizer out of plants

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bgmike8

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Richard Drysift said:
I only know from experience that when you over fertilize with synthetic nutrients the entire grow there's no amount of flushing that will remove it. That is because whatever readily available elements you give your plants they will absorb; I'm not smart enough to explain it any other way except to say that if you give your plants dissolved salts it will keep them alive and happy but that doesn't mean it will not affect the end result once you light it on fire & inhale the smoke. That's why less is more when it comes to nutrients and why weed grown organically has a better more natural flavor. If you must use nutes use them sparingly but organic soil gives the best flavors; hands down no question.
Organic soil forces the plant to feed itself whereas synth nutes force feeds the plant itself. Plants in organic soil pull what they need from the dirt and convert it to usable sugars & leave behind what's not needed. Plants fed synthetic nutes absorb as much as they can of what you give them and the excess is deposited into the flesh of the plant. This is why even after you flush your ash turns black and pops from too much magnesium. A super long cure can help with the taste but honestly organic bud tastes good even still kinda wet; that's because there's nothing unnatural in it to cure out. Organic weed actually tastes like it is supposed to; a flavor that is representative of the strain you grew. Alotta peeps have discredited me as some wierd hippie guru or something because I suggest using clean non chlorinated water, fresh vermicompost, and organic soil but I keep saying it because I wish somebody told me long ago to dump my nutes. So pour that shit down the toilet, grow organic & start recycling your soil, start up a worm factory, and stop using tap water in your grow. You'll have the dankest bud you ever smoked no lie
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I'm doing some research right now on this topic. First impression is that this is bullshit. The plant isn't taking in cancerous plutonium or anything. It just has more readily available food. I'll get back to you on that soon
 
bgmike8

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bryan oconner said:
what ever is put into the water the plants will take . think i am full of shit ? put some gatorade or some juice into the soil or water . the next day smell the plant it will be the same .
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If this is true then why do we have to ph so that the right nutes are available for uptake?
 
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Ten acres in Michigan is considered a "hobby farm" . a square mile of field (640acres ) is just a small farm around here.

I bought into the whole flush your plants thing for a long time, I finally just started not flushing my plants and didnt notice any negative affects from not flushing. In fact I gained a few grams off of the same strain and conditions from not flushing. I concur it is a myth and a way for nutrient companies to peddle another product that you do not need. Just my .02 :)
 
CriticalCheeze

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Lol feed ur plant gatorade.... heres a message for you trolls who have no hope...

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Aeroknow

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Budget Buds said:
I concur it is a myth and a way for nutrient companies to peddle another product that you do not need. Just my .02 :)
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I don't see it as a nutrient companies way to make more money.
It really was bullshit put forth by a bunch of dumbshits on overgrow. Simple as that!

The old floraseries bottles use to have 1 micro, 3 bloom and 1 micro, 4 bloom on there old label. For the end. That didn't make them any more money than the 1/2/3 formula Right to the end :-)
 
bgmike8

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TomThe"Ripper" said:
I'm not even going to read everyone's input on this. Everyone should know this because,
You don't to be an expert or even a novice grower to know that not flushing your plant will at the very least make the bud fucking taste god-awful (excuse my profanity) but just got a bag. Cookies so I'm like f yeeaahh. I'm all super excited on the drive home and I get here and it was this hard dry poop bud that wouldn't stay lit. There was no chance of rolling it up in a joint. Had to use my pipe. (i love papers bud tastes better to me)
This happened 2 time in a row. So I took it back to dudes house and told him to roll him one up and we could smoke but it didn't light brought to draw 1 hit from.
So yeah just throw some water on that shit!
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Is that why so many long time growers dont flush? They just like God awful tasting weed. How ever do you get by in this world with all the non flushed produce ?
 
bgmike8

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TomThe"Ripper" said:
Ok so you would was the pesticides off the outside only huh. Anything you give your plants. Will store them in their fat cell equivalents. And my arguement was on the grounds that not flushing can make for shotty smoke. I'm sure everyone has had a joint that wouldn't stay lit Or ashes were black and not grey. Try smoking a bag of flushed and unflushed then come argue with me
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I'm here to argue with you. I smoked a rod today then a bowl with some older folks. Tasted great. Burned great.
TomThe"Ripper" said:
Sorry in advance for this but I couldn't get the link to work.


Many growers these days, it seems, ignore the all-important stage of flushing their buds with pure water (no nutrients) for at least 1 week, preferably 2 weeks, before harvest. Proper flushing has numerous benefits, and results in superior quality bud (that is, if you're concerned about quality. If you're just trying to sell a bunch of crappy weed, then read no further). This is my conclusion, from over 20 years of experience growing marijuana.

Some of the benefits of properly flushed weed:

1. Taste/Smell. Pot that was flushed properly before harvest definitely has an improved taste and aroma to the smoke. Those who deny this are amateurs and hacks. The old conisseurs, like mysef, can tell quite a big difference.

2. It burns better, and has an overall smoother smoke, and is not as harsh on the lungs. Unflushed bud will crackle when burned, and burns down to black. Properly flushed bud burns down to white ash.

3. It's much healthier. Smoking nitrate salts (deposits left from all the nutrients) is NOT healthy!

4. It will save you money! Nutrient solutions are not free. Let the plant use up its nutrient reserves in the last two weeks, and just drink pure water with no ferts.

5. Many other benefits...

More growers should properly flush their crops. It would result in a lot better pot out in the marketplace. Tell all your friends and people who grow -- Please Flush your buds! Together, we can make a difference!!
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More bullshit. There's some "old connoisseurs" in this thread that would disagree .

Did you just say you've never grown? You have the audacity to spread this bullshit and you don't even know how plants eat? You just take some fuck asses word for it.
Smoking salt? The plant has salts in it?
 
bgmike8

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researching said:
I'm actually working with AN on developing a tobacco flush. The end game are different flavors and trademarks like swisher, of course backwoods, black and mild, and flavored ones like grape wrap etc...
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AN are filthy cocksuckers. All you have to do is check out there ad for flawless finish. They're in the same league as penis pill pushers. Magic claws that grab all the bad stuff... lmao
 
SPLFreak808

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TomThe"Ripper" said:
Ok...would you say not flushing fertz will make the curing portion of you grow take longer. To properly cure it
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More chlorophyll = more time to break down. This is strain/pheno dependent imo, the strains level of chlorophyll that it prefers and its flower density also changes dry/cure time.

Ever try hanging baby airy nugs till the stem snaps? Yup... Goodbye cure lol
 
Aeroknow

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SPLFreak808 said:
More chlorophyll = more time to break down. This is strain/pheno dependent imo, the strains level of chlorophyll that it prefers and its flower density also changes dry/cure time.

Ever try hanging baby airy nugs till the stem snaps? Yup... Goodbye cure lol
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I hate baby airy nugs.

I've laid out our drying process a few times on this site, maybe even on this thread. Anyways, pluck fan leaves, hang to dry(55% and 68F), take down branches when dry, put in bins or coolers, trim when my trimmers can.

The absolute worst is trimming while wet and screen drying.
Is that what these guys are doing wrong where their buds ain't good? Must be.
Ain't no cure gonna fix wet trimming and screen drying. That shit = booboo
 
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Afgan King

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qwizoking said:
I'm assuming you just missed the other posts.. Satire my friend
Work on that reading comprehension ;)
Trolololo!!
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No me and cat called truce and I went about having a life don't have time to go back and read but that's cute you wanna jump in must be in love
 
whitebb2727

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Indacouch said:
Impatience all around the board ....I don't know anyone personally busting there balls for a 4oz harvest at a time .......that's why I refer to large gardens ...because it's more work either way organic or synthetic ----large gardens----
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Not true. My veggie garden is no till organic. Yes it is a lot more work to setup but after it is less work. I know its veggies but its the same goal. Big yields.
 
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