Nutes making my head spin!

Jjgrow420

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Is jacks that bad? What makes it bad other than the urea?
Cheap ferts man. Its where those elements are sourced and how available they are to the plant. Theres a reason its orchid food and not cannabis food. Now will it work? Sure. But would you reach your bodys full potential eating hungry man tv dinners and mc dicks? Nah.
 

kovidkough

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ideally you flood and drain every 4 hours during lights on or 3x light on 1x lights off, they drink less at night
 

kovidkough

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Cheap ferts man. Its where those elements are sourced and how available they are to the plant. Theres a reason its orchid food and not cannabis food. Now will it work? Sure. But would you reach your bodys full potential eating hungry man tv dinners and mc dicks? Nah.
there are plenty of successful Jacks321 growers , its all the same to the plant
 

Jjgrow420

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there are plenty of successful Jacks321 growers , its all the same to the plant
Hey im not saying it wont work.
I can drive a nail into a board with a wrench but its simply not the right tool.
Its def not all the same to the plant. Cheap nutes are generally lab manufactured elements created using other compounds and mixing them together creating a new compound. Or derived from cheap sources such as urea Better nutes source elements in their raw form and chelate them to become more avaliable to the plant. But like i said. Use miracle grow if ya want it WORKS but its not proper is all im sayin ;)
Whats the point of growing crap weed?
 

xtsho

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Hey im not saying it wont work.
I can drive a nail into a board with a wrench but its simply not the right tool.
Its def not all the same to the plant. Cheap nutes are generally lab manufactured elements created using other compounds and mixing them together creating a new compound. Or derived from cheap sources such as urea Better nutes source elements in their raw form and chelate them to become more avaliable to the plant. But like i said. Use miracle grow if ya want it WORKS but its not proper is all im sayin ;)
Whats the point of growing crap weed?
You really don't know what you're talking about. Jacks gets their raw materials from the same sources that are in much of the expensive bottled nutrients. Do you think AN, GH, and the other big names have factories that manufacture the ingredients? There are a few big fertilizer manufacturers with factories making calcium nitrate, monopotassium phosphate, potassium nitrate, etc... and that's where most of the ingredients come from.

It doesn't matter what brand. The ingredients likely come from the same factories. All you're paying for with those "Expensive" nutes you think you need is fancy packaging and marketing. At the end of the day calcium nitrate is calcium nitrate. The plant doesn't care if comes in an inexpensive bag with the name Jacks on it or is diluted with water in a shiny bottle from AN for 10x the price.
 

Jjgrow420

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You really don't know what you're talking about. Jacks gets their raw materials from the same sources that are in much of the expensive bottled nutrients. Do you think AN, GH, and the other big names have factories that manufacture the ingredients? There are a few big fertilizer manufacturers with factories making calcium nitrate, monopotassium phosphate, potassium nitrate, etc... and that's where most of the ingredients come from.

It doesn't matter what brand. The ingredients likely come from the same factories. All you're paying for with those "Expensive" nutes you think you need is fancy packaging and marketing. At the end of the day calcium nitrate is calcium nitrate. The plant doesn't care if comes in an inexpensive bag with the name Jacks on it or is diluted with water in a shiny bottle from AN for 10x the price.
Lol. Ok. Whatever you say. Grow ur larf brother!
Btw i dont use an or gh they are both poser companies selling their million bottles of garb. An is for noobs. So is 'jacks' tell you the truth ive never even heard of it and ive been growing in canada for almost 20years. Plus its orchid food.
You obv dont know what you are talking about because calcium nitrate can come in many forms and made many diff ways including in a lab. Do some research and learn yourself some before you make yourself look stupid again ;)
 
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xtsho

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Lol. Ok. Whatever you say. Grow ur larf brother!
I'm not your brother. I have a brother and a sister and you're neither.

Jacks uses chelated ingredients like those other expensive nutrients you speak of. But if you knew what you were talking about you'd know that. You sound like a nutrient salesman for some expensive nutrient company trying to use a failed argument to justify paying more for for the same stuff that comes in a bag of Jacks.


 
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Jjgrow420

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Lol u dont know jack. Im not arguing with someone who is clearly uneducated in the matter.
Bro do whatever you want i was simply answering this guys question with my opinion. Dont get all butt hurt cause you cant afford the good stuff!
Brother!
Try this stuff its even easier you only have to apply every 4 weeks! Lmao bonus you get a thick green lawn!!!!!
It seems good it says for all grasses100183420190320.jpg
 
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Jjgrow420

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Ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid (EDTA) and diethylenetriaminepentaacetic acid (DTPA) are synthetic complexing agents that have been utilized extensively as metal sequestrants by a wide variety of industries.

Lol
They derive the compounds from a synthetic compound to make new compounds....... Man seriously read a little for once not just a forum. Lolz. Brother
You must be American
 

twentyeight.threefive

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Lol u dont know jack. Im not arguing with someone who is clearly uneducated in the matter.
Bro do whatever you want i was simply answering this guys question with my opinion. Dont get all butt hurt cause you cant afford the good stuff!
Brother!
Try this stuff its even easier you only have to apply every 4 weeks! Lmao bonus you get a thick green lawn!!!!!
It seems good it says for all grassesView attachment 4787246
You have no idea what you are talking about. Jack's 321 program is an extremely popular line with great growers. It's manufactured by JR Peters Corp. which is a multimillion dollar annual earner. Simple quality ingredients.

Also just because you haven't heard of something doesn't mean it should be disregarded as a poor product. The original product the OP was using isn't the proper nutrient line for coco as was already pointed out. Jack's makes a product for hydro feeding.
 

xtsho

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Lol u dont know jack. Im not arguing with someone who is clearly uneducated in the matter.
Bro do whatever you want i was simply answering this guys question with my opinion. Dont get all butt hurt cause you cant afford the good stuff!
Brother!
Try this stuff its even easier you only have to apply every 4 weeks! Lmao bonus you get a thick green lawn!!!!!
It seems good it says for all grassesView attachment 4787246

You're really reaching now aren't you? You're going to need a taller ladder.

Opinions are not FACTS.
 

Jjgrow420

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You're really reaching now aren't you? You're going to need a taller ladder.

Opinions are not FACTS.
Lol. Internet warriors.
Ya i originally gave my opinion. Which is what he asked. You gave yours and thats fine. But youre the one who took it to the next level. You obviously have some self esteem issues and try to act all tough and smart on the internet but you prob dont even grow or if you do you grow garb. Seriously learn some shit before you spout off about some lame miracle grow products. Ps. Your OPINIONS are not facts either. Brother!
With that i bid you adieu! Sorry i dont have time to argue with an ignoramous. I have weed to grow. Im just on here to help people out and to get some ideas and advice on somethings not to argue with a 16 year old keyboard warrior who prob doesnt even grow20200218_182051_HDR.jpgsorry no jacks miracle grow here just some ultra dank quads in my tester mini flower room!
 
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xtsho

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Lol. Internet warriors.
Ya i originally gave my opinion. Which is what he asked. You gave yours and thats fine. But youre the one who took it to the next level. You obviously have some self esteem issues and try to act all tough and smart on the internet but you prob dont even grow or if you do you grow garb. Seriously learn some shit before you spout off about some lame miracle grow products. Ps. Your OPINIONS are not facts either. Brother!
What are you? Some rep for an overpriced nutrient company losing market share as people realize they don't need a dozen bottles of cannabis specific nonsense? You obviously know nothing regarding plant nutrition and how plants use nutrients. But if you want to waste your money on expensive bottles with shiny labels and cool sounding names then go right ahead. You've been hooked and are being played like a fish if you think those expensive nutrients you use are made with some special ingredients that are better because they charge you more for the same crap coming from the same factories.
 
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