nutrient confusion

COflower

Member
Hey everyone. I am using canna nutrients for my first grow and was wondering if i should use 1/4 of what is recommended on their feeding schedule online. I am always reading that you should not use the full strength of nutrients recommended. Is this true?

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Banana444

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Nube her but this is what the expierienced growers will ask. How old are plants? Whats your grow medium? Do you have a ppm measurement? And different strains will respond differently. I started at less than 1/8 nutes between week 2 and 3 veg. Most will say its too early, idk. It hasn't affected them, and I'm still using 1/4 strength, at week 1 of switch to 12/12, week 5 from seed. I use gh 3 part flora series plus additives. No nute burn and no deficiencies, plants are happy. Also, I have only done 3 feedings, and one was today. Less is more and until I can document my exact ppm I'm not willing to push the nutes and find a plants "breaking point".
 

kinddiesel

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banana post above me is correct. knows his shit. depends how big what stage you are in . we need more info take some pics. I never listen to the info from the fertilizer. I go much weaker during veg and push much harder during flower. I push 2000 ppm at times ! the plant would dye in some stages . also are you using co2 ? makes a major difference in how hard you push nutes . yes your in veg . I push co2 in veg as well .
 

Rammstein

Active Member
hi

...i start slow...and slowly raise ppms based on how the plant reacts...i use GH flora series and 3-4 supplement...its all about ppms and the size of the plant. for me at least.

but i would start somewhere around 1/4 or around 300 ppm(TDS) for the first week...
around 400-500 the second (14days old, from seed) IMG_3047.jpg

, then around 650 for the third week (21days old) IMG_3077.jpg

...and 800 ppm week 4th (day27) IMG_3091.jpg

...1050 ppm (day38) DSCF1424.jpg

...and today day 49, 1150ppm... DSCF1442.jpgDSCF1443.jpgDSCF1444.jpgDSCF1445.jpgDSCF1446.jpgDSCF1447.jpgDSCF1449.jpgDSCF1450.jpgDSCF1452.jpg

...hope it helps :) ...im quite happy how she grows...

all the best! :leaf:
 

COflower

Member
Thanks for the help guys. Ill tell you a little bit about my setup- i have a 4x4x6.5 grow tent with a 600w mh for veg and a 600w hps for flowering. I have a carbon filter at the top of the tent with ducting going down to the flow hood followed by more ducting to a 400cfm fan going outside of the tent and vented to the attic. I have a HANNA total dissolved solids and ph tester so i know exactly what my ppms will be. I am picking up cuttings that are already rooted in a few days. So do you guys think that i should start out at 1/8 of what is recommended on this schedule http://www.cannagardening.com/growguide and move up to 1/4 through the whole flowering stage?

banana post above me is correct. knows his shit. depends how big what stage you are in . we need more info take some pics. I never listen to the info from the fertilizer. I go much weaker during veg and push much harder during flower. I push 2000 ppm at times ! the plant would dye in some stages . also are you using co2 ? makes a major difference in how hard you push nutes . yes your in veg . I push co2 in veg as well .
 

COflower

Member
I am also going to rig up a little CO2 yeast bottle set up. Wouldn't the air constantly being pulled out of the tent not allow the Co2 to reach the plants? Thanks for the pics Rammstein plants looks great.
 

COflower

Member
On that canna nutrient feeding schedule that i posted if i were to use 1/4 strength in the flowering stage according to what you are saying Rammstein i would not be using nearly enough ppms!
 

Banana444

Well-Known Member
Idk what your goals and expectations are for your grow, but it seems you havesome room to experiment. Which essentially, every grow is esseessentially an experiment when documented properly. I would say start most at 1/8 and a few at 1/4 and maybe one or two at 1/2 and full strength. Then you have something to go off it.
 

Rammstein

Active Member
On that canna nutrient feeding schedule that i posted if i were to use 1/4 strength in the flowering stage according to what you are saying Rammstein i would not be using nearly enough ppms!
i just gave you an idea...thats my feeding schedule...i dont really plan in advance...like i said i look at how she reacts to every new feeding and then raise ppms as she grows.
i keep notes of everything i do...all the ppms, amounts of nutrients added, ph and all the mistakes too :) ...really everything...and that will help me in my next grow.
my advise to you would be to start like 1/4 and check ppm so that its not higher then 500ppm in your second week...and then slowly raise the amount of nuts...and check your plant...add more nuts if the new leafs are too yellow, and relax on nutes when the leafs gets too dark and start to show some signs of overfert. but keep notes and pics...it will help you a lot in ur next grow.
 

Rammstein

Active Member
you dont go 1/4 all the way...it least i dint and not planning on...you just start like that and go on based on what she tells you :D
 
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