Nutrient Lockout? Newbie here

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Mtsfour

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Cx2H said:
Check the organics section stickys.
https://www.rollitup.org/f/organics.59/

Mine is @ 5 gallon:
5ozs liquid Kelp
Half scoop of great white
3-5 table spoons of black strap molasses

Dump it all in bubble for atleast 3 days.l look for foam after 2 days or so, not completely needed but I like to see it.

My plants look the best they ever have using teas, I run same strains for years.
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Another question with the tea, is this something I can use every watering or every other watering? Thank you.
 
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Mtsfour said:
Another question with the tea, is this something I can use every watering or every other watering? Thank you.
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I use it e every water the myco. I do castings like evey 2 weeks or a bat tea and still use synthetics in between. Slowly going organic I guess. ;-)
 
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Mtsfour said:
View attachment 3900615 View attachment 3900616 View attachment 3900617 View attachment 3900618 View attachment 3900615 View attachment 3900616 View attachment 3900617 Here's after a flushing, a trim of the infected/ yellowing leaves, 6 hours of sleep and a few hours of light. Some leaves remain that have little marking on them.
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Greetings(again). What is your main fertilizer? Big bloom is micros and supplements.

They look over watered and Ntox.

Also next time you water, put them in the tub, water and let run off, drain out not into saucers, you could have a salt build up at the bottom of the pots as well. But for sure got some super dark green almost blue going on.

Small house fan in there would help alot with the black spore's
I buy sheet like that at thrifty stores.

They don't look code red though.

Random Side note: would love to have green crack cuts, been looking for some forever. 56 day runner. They say it's low maintenance.
 
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Mtsfour

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Cx2H said:
Looks over fed (N)and what's the peroxide(h202) for beside killing off Benes?

Holes in the leafs? Got insects of some sort?

Leafs look dull and lack luster.

Check plants top to bottom for bugs.

What are the environment details inside the tent? Ventilation good?

Need some myco IMO after you figure out what's wrong.

Molasses is unnecessary to add at this point, no Benes to feed after H202.

Ca:mg is a given unless heavy amended soil or you know which you are short on and you are short a little bit IMO

If it were me, I would give them myco/Kelp/molasses tea then brew up a castings tea then back to feeding them @ 1/2-3/4 dose when they snap back.
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Cx2H said:
Greetings(again). What is your main fertilizer? Big bloom is micros and supplements.

They look over watered and Ntox.

Also next time you water, put them in the tub, water and let run off, drain out not into saucers, you could have a salt build up at the bottom of the pots as well. But for sure got some super dark green almost blue going on.

Small house fan in there would help alot with the black spore's
I buy sheet like that at thrifty stores.

They don't look code red though.

Random Side note: would love to have green crack cuts, been looking for some forever. 56 day runner. They say it's low maintenance.
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yeah I'm excited for some green crack, me wife and i have a house cleaning "biz" to stay under radar. It's an uppity for sure (green crack) so it helps with cleaning. And makes it much more "enjoyable". Just got back from the hydro store planning to spend 20 bucks but spent 100.. As usual. Purchased

Neptune's Harvest seaweed plant food. 0-0-1

Hi Brix molasses

Wiggle worm soil builder earthworm castings 1-0-0

Also gear to brew up some tea. With the above ingredients. Was going to purchase a small bottle of cal mag but settled to make the tea. The great white was damn 40 bucks for a little jar. So I settled for the kelp. I watered down all my plants last night till the water ran clear. Draining them into the sink, also spraying down the pots. I'm planning on brewing up the tea and watering them again when the soil is completely dry.

I have been using (measurement for one gallon water)

1 tbsp h202
3 tbsp ff bb
1 tbsp unsupported molasses (from Walmart)
Originally I was using bat guano nitrogen feed for vegging (instead of ff bb)

I decided they looked so good with fox farms to do the heavy feeding of 1/2 cup per gallon and now they look like shite. Newbie mistake. Though I've been dealing with the black spores the whole time and yellowing. If I should water them down with plain water one more time I will, before making tea. If you have insight on that. Pictures I posted were post soaking them with water.
 
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Mtsfour said:
yeah I'm excited for some green crack, me wife and i have a house cleaning "biz" to stay under radar. It's an uppity for sure (green crack) so it helps with cleaning. And makes it much more "enjoyable". Just got back from the hydro store planning to spend 20 bucks but spent 100.. As usual. Purchased

Neptune's Harvest seaweed plant food. 0-0-1

Hi Brix molasses

Wiggle worm soil builder earthworm castings 1-0-0

Also gear to brew up some tea. With the above ingredients. Was going to purchase a small bottle of cal mag but settled to make the tea. The great white was damn 40 bucks for a little jar. So I settled for the kelp. I watered down all my plants last night till the water ran clear. Draining them into the sink, also spraying down the pots. I'm planning on brewing up the tea and watering them again when the soil is completely dry.

I have been using (measurement for one gallon water)

1 tbsp h202
3 tbsp ff bb
1 tbsp unsupported molasses (from Walmart)
Originally I was using bat guano nitrogen feed for vegging (instead of ff bb)

I decided they looked so good with fox farms to do the heavy feeding of 1/2 cup per gallon and now they look like shite. Newbie mistake. Though I've been dealing with the black spores the whole time and yellowing. If I should water them down with plain water one more time I will, before making tea. If you have insight on that. Pictures I posted were post soaking them with water.
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Cool beans man. On the right track. Every thing you got is great.

#mold
Sanitize, wipe down the interior of the tent with bleach @ capful per spray bottle. Sanitize outside tent, plus the room. The high mold count maybe from outside the tent.

#water
If you got a nice run off then I would hold out for tea if possible. If not pH at 6 and water.

#tea
I'd start brewing the tea now it will be optimal in 3 days. But you can use before if needed. Also dollar trees has panty hose that work great as teabag's cut to fit.

#cheapmaster ;-)
Amazon has the great white at 24 a jar and 40 for the big 8oz shaker bottle.

Also in the future the A has the Kelp from maxicrop for 13-22 a gallon.

Wiggle worm is perfect

Golden barrel molasses - ama 7-15 a gallon. Sorry for not directing you to my cheap suppliers (Amazon). ;-)
 
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Mtsfour

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Cx2H said:
Cool beans man. On the right track. Every thing you got is great.

#mold
Sanitize, wipe down the interior of the tent with bleach @ capful per spray bottle. Sanitize outside tent, plus the room. The high mold count maybe from outside the tent.

#water
If you got a nice run off then I would hold out for tea if possible. If not pH at 6 and water.

#tea
I'd start brewing the tea now it will be optimal in 3 days. But you can use before if needed. Also dollar trees has panty hose that work great as teabag's cut to fit.

#cheapmaster ;-)
Amazon has the great white at 24 a jar and 40 for the big 8oz shaker bottle.

Also in the future the A has the Kelp from maxicrop for 13-22 a gallon.

Wiggle worm is perfect

Golden barrel molasses - ama 7-15 a gallon. Sorry for not directing you to my cheap suppliers (Amazon). ;-)
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Still nervous purchasing via Internet/ Amazon if you know what I mean. I have the ballast, bulb and reflector coming in from Amazon. Not sure if it's discreet or not. Not gonna lie I'm sweating it out this week. i didn't mind purchasing instore (he gave me a lot of advice and freebies so it was worth the extra $) but the hydro shop owner has yet to be seen . So I went to a knew one didn't feel like waiting for shipping. Making sure I'm on the same page should I wait for tea for one more water? Or this watering? The soil probs won't be dry till Friday. Thanks for the back up!
 
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Mtsfour

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Cx2H said:
Cool beans man. On the right track. Every thing you got is great.

#mold
Sanitize, wipe down the interior of the tent with bleach @ capful per spray bottle. Sanitize outside tent, plus the room. The high mold count maybe from outside the tent.

#water
If you got a nice run off then I would hold out for tea if possible. If not pH at 6 and water.

#tea
I'd start brewing the tea now it will be optimal in 3 days. But you can use before if needed. Also dollar trees has panty hose that work great as teabag's cut to fit.

#cheapmaster ;-)
Amazon has the great white at 24 a jar and 40 for the big 8oz shaker bottle.

Also in the future the A has the Kelp from maxicrop for 13-22 a gallon.

Wiggle worm is perfect

Golden barrel molasses - ama 7-15 a gallon. Sorry for not directing you to my cheap suppliers (Amazon). ;-)
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I don't have the materials to measure ph, if I have to go back to the hydro shop I will have to give my wallet to my wife, other wise I'll walk out with another tent.
 
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Cx2H

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Mtsfour said:
Still nervous purchasing via Internet/ Amazon if you know what I mean. I have the ballast, bulb and reflector coming in from Amazon. Not sure if it's discreet or not. Not gonna lie I'm sweating it out this week. i didn't mind purchasing instore (he gave me a lot of advice and freebies so it was worth the extra $) but the hydro shop owner has yet to be seen . So I went to a knew one didn't feel like waiting for shipping. Making sure I'm on the same page should I wait for tea for one more water? Or this watering? The soil probs won't be dry till Friday. Thanks for the back up!
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As far as discreet, nobody can say you aren't growing oyster/ shiitake mushrooms or speciality veggies for the local food market $$$. Same gear. ;-) but better cautious than sorry.

Wait for the tea will be ready Thursday anyway and pH @ 6.5(Changed half a point for pH for happy frog and ocean forest.)

#BathroomReading
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycorrhiza
 
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Okay brewin the tea up, haven't had mold/mildew issues until I moved into a light house grow tent. I've grow in worse conditions just fine until now. Who knows. I'll update with pics after tea is done or if the shtf with the plants. Thanks again man.
 
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Cx2H

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Mtsfour said:
Okay brewin the tea up, haven't had mold/mildew issues until I moved into a light house grow tent. I've grow in worse conditions just fine until now. Who knows. I'll update with pics after tea is done or if the shtf with the plants. Thanks again man.
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No worries. Good luck.
 
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Adding the tea tommorrow but huge difference post flush and using the sea weed/kelp liquid as a folier spray. Plants seem to react with in 15/20 min. They all perked up and the dark green tint is going to a lighter green. Yellowing is still progressing slowly but we will see what the tea does.
 

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Good to hear. Yeah I keep seaweed around has a lot of uses and never disappoints. Keep up the good work. :-)
 
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next time mix in some 2 tablespoons dolomitic limestone/gallon of soil into your mix so you don't get calmag issues. Its easier than having to watch for deficiencies.

Cx2H said:
Yeah my ballasts were knocking out cable service for blocks, they were injecting EFI into a closed system. The FCC website has info on digital grows and the EFI they emit. Switched back to magnetic ballasts, smooth sailing. The problem is the light cord side, needs a filter.
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what brand of lights? I think my first apollos had that issue
 
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Cx2H

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driel said:
what brand of lights? I think my first apollos had that issue
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Solistek Matrix Digitals. They sell a EFI filter for the light cord side of digitals for 80 per.. went back to magnetics. ;-)
 
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Mtsfour

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driel said:
next time mix in some 2 tablespoons dolomitic limestone/gallon of soil into your mix so you don't get calmag issues. Its easier than having to watch for deficiencies.

Will do, I usually do just straight ffof but actaully still get nutrient burn here and there even with no nutes. So went with 50/50 ffof and happy frog. Been having issues with cal mag. Mostly after starting big bloom.


what brand of lights? I think my first apollos had that issue
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Mtsfour

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Any recommendations with botonicare line? I would like to do a tea/ botonicare feeding schedule next grow with me clones.
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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Mtsfour said:
Any recommendations with botonicare line? I would like to do a tea/ botonicare feeding schedule next grow with me clones.
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dont over think it. tea is un necessary. grab a big bag of Organicare flower(and grow if you like) and follow the directions using just promix hp. thats it. cool water when buckets are light. no additives, no fuss, step back and wait. or, if you must, grab a bottle of the their flowering juice too, cut it in half, mix in a gallon give each 1 cup or two once a week till the near end. more is not better

if you have the time fertilize and water buckets prior to using, best experience ever.
 
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