Nutrients for soil grows

since soil already has nutrients in it (some better quality than others) why so much use of supplemental nutrient dosing?
Keep it simple. The use of worm casting and guanos would really be all you may need to supplement. Then the use of molasses for a flavor and carb boost.
Am I wrong organic growers out there?

Jacks 20 20 20 for veg and 10 30 20 for flower. I use RO water so it gets a dose of Cal Mag Plus. Everything gets half dose Superthrive until flowering.

For Organic I use

Peruvian Seabird Guano Veg/Flowering

Azomite

Calcitic/Dolomitic Lime mix

Kelp

Compost Bioactivator

Beneficial Bacteria

Nectar for the gods advanced line. Fed weekly and watered once in between. I'm 4 weeks into flower right now and my ladies are loving it.

Also foilar fed through veg and 2 weeks into flower with bloom chaos from nftg. Now I'm using it as an additive in water

10ml of terpinator through veg and now 30ml in flower.

Sunshine 4 mix for soil/5-10 gallon smart pots. I used 1 gallon of water with a ph of 6.2 in veg and 6.7 in flower.

Hi, I'm going to do my first Northern Lights grow.
I'm using a tent, 600w aircooled hps, carbon can filter, exhaust fan is on a cooling t-stat. (Variable)
The soils I know I have access to are pro mix hp, FFOF, maybe FFHF.
The shop here might have more choices than that. The owner is relatively new and pretends to know more than he does.
I ordered humboldt natural grow and bloom nutes.
I do have budswell bat guano to use if needed.
I have cal mag on hand too
I can get dolomite lime.
I have super thrive.
I really want to keep it simple. I'm not afraid to add elements that are neccissary, but don't don't want to complicate it either.
Do I need to add any myco nutes to what I have listed.
I guess I just need a recipe for a decent soil build.
I have read through some of this huge thread and am getting a bit overwhelmed with options.
Thanks.
(P.s. I'm not new to growing, but it's been a few years and I'm rusty)

Many recipes here:
https://www.rollitup.org/f/organics.59/

Good luck.....sounds like you are on track :0)

JD

P.S. They might add Worm Castings, Azomite, Kelp, and
a few other things. :0)

Thx javadog. I forgot about subcools thread. Lots of info there, almost too much. Lol
The shop here is more tuned to hydro, but I'll revisit and see what he has as far as amendments for soil.
Anyone please feel free to chime in.

duncandog said:

since soil already has nutrients in it (some better quality than others) why so much use of supplemental nutrient dosing?
Keep it simple. The use of worm casting and guanos would really be all you may need to supplement. Then the use of molasses for a flavor and carb boost.
Am I wrong organic growers out there?

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Soil or soilless by it self has no nutrient for plant. peat has 0 coir has 0 top soil should have some rock dust and maybe some mineral content , bark and wood don't feed till they break down . forest humus from the forest will have nutrients from composting live/dead matter but unless the soil is kept alive and fed it will run out of nutrition for the plant.

Check out super soil, subcool, no till garden . For the how to grow in soil using no plant nutrients. There are inputs required but you never have to go to the hydro shop.

Currently I'm using gh organic grow and bloom and micros I read somewhere that this is what Nasa uses and it's easy to supply here. I also use popcorn sprouts for cytokinins. Alfalfa sprouts for there enzyme grow booster (has been shown to increase growth) forgot what it's called off the top. Molasses once in veg once in bloom for microbiology and possibly other benefits. Cal mag and ro water. Sea weed extract. Fulvic acid and humid acid Also the liquid karma for aminos ; want to find another source for aminos and other more grocery store or garden sources for
All the nutrients.
So
Grow
Bloom
Micros
Cal mag
Liquid karma
Fulvic
Cytokinins from corn sprout tea


My soil is a mix w ffof ,worm poop ,Alfafa meal ,dried crushed cannabis leaf ,light warrior and formula 420 soil from Washington , pumice, and some local top soil . I mix cause a want a certain consistency like chocolate cake with air rocks and I want to provide food and conditions for microbiology. Gonna try cheaper soils and add kelp meal and worms and rock dust. Also compost.

Using 5 gal buckets. Is it ok to reuse soil from last harvest I flushed really really well was thinking of course mixing fresh FFHF ot FFOF with it. Thoughts?

IMHO?YMMV.

NO WAY Id reuse it.

If I did I would have to test it Thoroughly for NPK, PH. Easier to just move on.

But NO. I wouldn't reuse it.

Alright cool just trying to be frivolous one time. Amd my heat pad just went out trying to improvise with a body heat pad with multi setting for my seedling ok till I get new one in mail?

You are using a heating pad made for human use ??

If your going to do that, ( Not Recommended ) I would be really careful about any kind of water, or it could be instant electrocution.

I also don't believe those are made to be on hours, and hours on end...

Theres a Michigan Medical Marijuana mix just for cannabis and it basically gives you everything you need unless your strain takes a lil longer.. i usually add a lil extra to my pots 4 weeks into flower n i get amazing results! Idk if its available to order or not but id look into it, saved my ass a few times

Mangrowves said:

Using 5 gal buckets. Is it ok to reuse soil from last harvest I flushed really really well was thinking of course mixing fresh FFHF ot FFOF with it. Thoughts?

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reusing soil is a smart move.

for the last 6 years, bio bizz all mix soil, grow and bloom, and nothing else, i stopped ph checking the water 2 years ago.

Right. Why change at that point? :0)

iNFID3L said:

for the last 6 years, bio bizz all mix soil, grow and bloom, and nothing else, i stopped ph checking the water 2 years ago.

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Keeping it simple, and doing what you know works is IMHO the Key.

NICE BUDS !!!!!!!

thanks buddy, simple is always best .

that was a nice smoke too, more to come with some moby d xxl auto

Mangrowves said:

Using 5 gal buckets. Is it ok to reuse soil from last harvest I flushed really really well was thinking of course mixing fresh FFHF ot FFOF with it. Thoughts?

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I've used FFOF for numerous outdoor grows with success. And however much I love their soil; NO I would not reuse it. Generally, I have to apply more nutes by the end of veg, you would need to supply the plant's nutrients totally through application. The soil will not likely have much left.
Just my 2 cents though. Good luck and happy growing.