Nutrients for soil grows

Chunky Stool

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Hi, Just curious what are you mixing in your teas and what is your dilution ratio? I do teas for outside but just feel on indoors the grow is over so quick that the plants don't really have time to maximise the uptake of organic foods.
In organic soil, it does take more time for roots + mycorrhiza to become established. It's also crucial not to overwater, especially when plants are very young or have been recently transplanted. Teas really hit the spot after a transplant. I bump up the phosphorous to give them energy to grow roots.
My nutrient tea recipes vary. Right now I'm experimenting with blood meal and don't feel comfortable sharing that recipe until I know it's good.
Here's an easy one: (5 gals)
  • 1/2 cup peruvian seabird guano (12-11-2)
  • 2 tsp potassium sulfate (0-0-50) * careful, strong stuff *
  • 1/2 cup humic acid concentrate (optional)
Dilute 50/50 for potted plants. Can be used full strength on larger plants that need extra N.
 

mrgreenbudz

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In organic soil, it does take more time for roots + mycorrhiza to become established. It's also crucial not to overwater, especially when plants are very young or have been recently transplanted. Teas really hit the spot after a transplant. I bump up the phosphorous to give them energy to grow roots.
My nutrient tea recipes vary. Right now I'm experimenting with blood meal and don't feel comfortable sharing that recipe until I know it's good.
Here's an easy one: (5 gals)
  • 1/2 cup peruvian seabird guano (12-11-2)
  • 2 tsp potassium sulfate (0-0-50) * careful, strong stuff *
  • 1/2 cup humic acid concentrate (optional)
Dilute 50/50 for potted plants. Can be used full strength on larger plants that need extra N.
I do love using Pure Protein dry fish in my teas besides seabird or bat guano. Ever use Pure Protein?
 

mrgreenbudz

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I haven't tried it, but might if I find it on sale... (I'm cheap)
Pure Protein 15-1-1 and the 5-12-14 both work great in teas or for foliar. Been using Eds products for the last few years and killing it on the outside. Indoor I am still learning and have some great success's and some real losses. Can't seem to figure what I do wrong sometimes on indoors.
 

517BlckBerry

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Been giving "Neptunes Harvest" a try with some Sea 90 and Boogie Brew. Fucking Incredible results is an understatement.... Used it mostly on my tomatoes and stuff outside to test it, best I started using it on my cannabis indoors and my blueberryhashplant mother Took the fuck off like never before, along with my clones. Success rate went up and roots happen a lot quicker now (8 days from about 2 weeks). I forgot, I also use Great White with some Sea Bird guano/ Puruvian guano/ ... Getting about 20 ounces every 4 plants under 1000watts.
 

innerG

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FFOF with Blood Meal, Bone Meal, and cheap Epsoma liquid organic fertilizer if I need to give em a boost
 

Chunky Stool

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Been giving "Neptunes Harvest" a try with some Sea 90 and Boogie Brew. Fucking Incredible results is an understatement.... Used it mostly on my tomatoes and stuff outside to test it, best I started using it on my cannabis indoors and my blueberryhashplant mother Took the fuck off like never before, along with my clones. Success rate went up and roots happen a lot quicker now (8 days from about 2 weeks). I forgot, I also use Great White with some Sea Bird guano/ Puruvian guano/ ... Getting about 20 ounces every 4 plants under 1000watts.
Peruvian seabird guano kicks serious butt!
 

hillbill

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Ten years ago I got some Espoma Garden Tone at end of season sale for $2 a bag. They are now in the big box stores and are a reliable high quality line. I also like Nitron and they are more of a nursery type supplier. I love their limestone because of the ultra-fine grind.
 

esh dov ets

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Been using e.b. stone organix ,boxes of dry n-p-k and other good stuff. 5-5-5 , 0-10-10, kelp meal, gonna add 0-0-30 i think, their potassium one.
Also using
seagate fish powder 11-5-1.
I mix in with alfalfa meal , diatomaceous earth , earth worm castings, compost , coir, potting mix micorrihza. Every so often , like every month to every three months do a top dress or sprinkle.
 

Chunky Stool

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Been using e.b. stone organix ,boxes of dry n-p-k and other good stuff. 5-5-5 , 0-10-10, kelp meal, gonna add 0-0-30 i think, their potassium one.
Also using
seagate fish powder 11-5-1.
I mix in with alfalfa meal , diatomaceous earth , earth worm castings, compost , coir, potting mix micorrihza. Every so often , like every month to every three months do a top dress or sprinkle.
E.B. Stone makes good products. I use a lot of their sul-po-mag (0-0-20).
They also make a nice "compost" that's reasonably priced. But it annoys me when the name of the product (compost) is only a main ingredient. It's also got guano, worm castings, kelp, and alfalfa so it's more of a really strong soil with minimal aeration. For people who want to get into organics, this is a good option. Mix it 50/50 with promix HP and you might be able to run that soil most of the way through flower without amending.
 

esh dov ets

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E.B. Stone makes good products. I use a lot of their sul-po-mag (0-0-20).
They also make a nice "compost" that's reasonably priced. But it annoys me when the name of the product (compost) is only a main ingredient. It's also got guano, worm castings, kelp, and alfalfa so it's more of a really strong soil with minimal aeration. For people who want to get into organics, this is a good option. Mix it 50/50 with promix HP and you might be able to run that soil most of the way through flower without amending.
green sand next time and forgot to mention i add pumice instead of perlight. Mix ruffly half soil to every thing else mainly compost ewc and coir plus amendments. I do this with old soil and rarely add nutrients . They want more potassium though so i think the green sand will help. It's like 0-0-3 with slow realese plus 30 micros and iron . Going to add both.
 

Chunky Stool

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green sand next time and forgot to mention i add pumice instead of perlight. Mix ruffly half soil to every thing else mainly compost ewc and coir plus amendments. I do this with old soil and rarely add nutrients . They want more potassium though so i think the green sand will help. It's like 0-0-3 with slow realese plus 30 micros and iron . Going to add both.
I highly recommend sul-po-mag, just be careful with it.
A little goes a long way...
 

Chunky Stool

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green sand next time and forgot to mention i add pumice instead of perlight. Mix ruffly half soil to every thing else mainly compost ewc and coir plus amendments. I do this with old soil and rarely add nutrients . They want more potassium though so i think the green sand will help. It's like 0-0-3 with slow realese plus 30 micros and iron . Going to add both.
Did someone say "pumice"?
I loves me some pumice.

These are a few of my favorite things...
aeration.jpg
 

shannonball

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been using Roots Organics. Just picked up some Fish Shit at a Canna Con last weekend. Its a brand new company out of Rhode Island.
 

evensis

Member
I use:

- Black magic Potting mix, has the following in the mix:
  • Coco Coir
  • Perlite
  • Sphagnum Peat Moss
  • Aged Bark
  • Volcanic Ash
  • Feather Meal, Bone Meal, Kelp Meal
  • Worm Castings
  • Bat Guano
Very hot mix, so seedlings get germinated in a seedling soil before being transplanted.

In terms of nutes:

- Cal-mag as the potting mix seems to run out of this about 4 weeks through. Also helps a little bit with nitrogen as has 4%.
- Canna 13/14 PK. Half dose a week after the girlie bits start showing, followed by ramping up to a full dose over the course of the grow.

That's it, usual flushing pattern, and under a MarsHydro 300 LED + 150w UFO LED.

Some nute burn on the girl below whom has about 2 weeks to go in this picture (BioDiesel Mass Auto), and also actively cannibalizing her leaves for bud growth even with the N from the Cal-Mag. Although seems to have really slowed down now, not sure if its strain related as my other grows I haven't seen this behaviour. She's had LST as I've got a tiny grow tent :) Plant in the back is a C4 auto, mostly as its a purple strain so just had to!

 

Chunky Stool

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I use:

- Black magic Potting mix, has the following in the mix:
  • Coco Coir
  • Perlite
  • Sphagnum Peat Moss
  • Aged Bark
  • Volcanic Ash
  • Feather Meal, Bone Meal, Kelp Meal
  • Worm Castings
  • Bat Guano
Very hot mix, so seedlings get germinated in a seedling soil before being transplanted.

In terms of nutes:

- Cal-mag as the potting mix seems to run out of this about 4 weeks through. Also helps a little bit with nitrogen as has 4%.
- Canna 13/14 PK. Half dose a week after the girlie bits start showing, followed by ramping up to a full dose over the course of the grow.

That's it, usual flushing pattern, and under a MarsHydro 300 LED + 150w UFO LED.

Some nute burn on the girl below whom has about 2 weeks to go in this picture (BioDiesel Mass Auto), and also actively cannibalizing her leaves for bud growth even with the N from the Cal-Mag. Although seems to have really slowed down now, not sure if its strain related as my other grows I haven't seen this behaviour. She's had LST as I've got a tiny grow tent :) Plant in the back is a C4 auto, mostly as its a purple strain so just had to!

What you described is not flushing.
 

Chunky Stool

Well-Known Member
I use:

- Black magic Potting mix, has the following in the mix:
  • Coco Coir
  • Perlite
  • Sphagnum Peat Moss
  • Aged Bark
  • Volcanic Ash
  • Feather Meal, Bone Meal, Kelp Meal
  • Worm Castings
  • Bat Guano
Very hot mix, so seedlings get germinated in a seedling soil before being transplanted.

In terms of nutes:

- Cal-mag as the potting mix seems to run out of this about 4 weeks through. Also helps a little bit with nitrogen as has 4%.
- Canna 13/14 PK. Half dose a week after the girlie bits start showing, followed by ramping up to a full dose over the course of the grow.

That's it, usual flushing pattern, and under a MarsHydro 300 LED + 150w UFO LED.

Some nute burn on the girl below whom has about 2 weeks to go in this picture (BioDiesel Mass Auto), and also actively cannibalizing her leaves for bud growth even with the N from the Cal-Mag. Although seems to have really slowed down now, not sure if its strain related as my other grows I haven't seen this behaviour. She's had LST as I've got a tiny grow tent :) Plant in the back is a C4 auto, mostly as its a purple strain so just had to!

Questions:
What is the purpose of the aged bark? Aeration?
Are you referring to Azomite when you say "volcanic dust"?
How do you know your cal-mag is consumed in 4 weeks? (There are two sources of calcium in your mix.)
Why is there no ph buffer like dolomite or oyster shell?
-- edit --
Never mind, I see it was already in the mix you bought. My bad...
 
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