Obama and Pot

Trey57

Trey57

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WWgrower said:
be careful how you read this quote - -he was unclear about the Oregon initiative - read
Barack Obama Speaking About Medical Marijuana, from the Medford, OR Mail-Tribune, March 23, 2008
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Once again it sounds good, but for how long will it stay that way is always the story. I'm not trying to take anything away from Obama. He's just doing what you gotta do to win elections in certain states. Theres probably always goin to be "Another side to the story" with any presidential canidate. That's why I say fuck the govt:spew:.If they are gonna say I'm a criminal for using my medicine they can shove it.:mrgreen: Just my opinion.
 
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lets go talk politics

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unfortunantly its not just up to obama even thou hes for marijuana he will have to write a bill and have it go throught the other asshole poloticians of congress
 
pillowpants

pillowpants

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i say fuck obama. not being racist but he is pro-black. nothing but black funded activites are going to be taking place. were all american here why do some need more funding than others? just because of skin. he is on the bullshit when he says he is decriminilizing.

I myself am a fan of Ron Paul. But he doesn't get enough news coverage as the african american and the dumb ass cunt do.
 
GrnMan

GrnMan

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I believe Ron Paul has already dropped out of the race. Ron Paul rocks! You know why he doesn't get any media coverage? Because the media tries to tell us who is going to be president. Think about it, they only have been covering Obama, Clinton, and McCain from the get go. They definitely won't show anything on Ron Paul because he is marijuana advocate.

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vapor85

vapor85

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I'm sick of democrats and republicans. Ron Paul would be a great alternative....although I think he ran as a republican but he really isn't one of them.
 
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LowRider82

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budz420 said:
And your a Ron Paul Fan. The guy is fuckin psyco. And a racist.
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how is he a racist, you talking about when he made the comment about the Civil War? if so, Slavery was only a by product of the war. its not what the war was fought over. the war was to keep the States (Union) together
 
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LowRider82

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ReggaeBoy0420 said:
is he gunna legalize our sweet mary jane??? =]
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RON PAUL - MOST DEFINITELY. He's sponsoring bill HR 5843 (decriminalizes on a federal level up to 3 1/2 Oz's) state law would dictate marijuana laws not the federal gov. and He INTRODUCED bill HR 5842 which would make it legal for dispensaries to dispense marijuana without fear of being raided and pharmacies where state laws allow of course.

OBAMA - No one knows for sure as you read he flip flops so much. he's the new Kerry.

CLINTON - More than likely not as there's a you-tube video while she was on campaign sometime last year i believe where she said there should be more studies on it. yea its only been used for 10,000 plus yrs and we need more studies.
 
WWgrower

WWgrower

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Low rider you must be making a joke right?? Ron Paul's campaign came to a uneventfull conclusion. His campaign was very flawed, His idea's would never work and would be extremely detremental to a healthy economy. I like what he said about pot but everything else was a little loopey. As the race stands now I can only go with Obama or Bam Bam as I call him. No the president cannot change the laws alone but if the guy at the top does not go for any kind of decriminalization then no one else in his administration will either! He has said on more than one occasion he is for reform on the current laws concerning pot.He also has said he is for Medical marijiuana. Thats all i need to know.
 
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LowRider82

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grower i will admit Ron Paul had some ideas but he wanted us to be a country in our own country and not dictate other countries. If you do research on the US policies we bully other countries to do what we want. he was going to put a stop to that so we could be a country once again. we were a isolationist country once. but the first war changed that and it forever changed our ways which by the way we were very prosperous. then we began policing other countries. the man thinks outside the box and isn't scared to speak the truth unlike these other idiots. however since Obama and Cain head look like there going to be running together I'm like you voting for him. however if i have an option to do a write in then Ron Paul is on the ballot again
 
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stickyicky77

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The President is not the one who can really change the laws. It is Congress that makes and changes the laws. The laws will never change as long as we have a bunch of clowns in Congress.
 
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WWgrower

WWgrower

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Ron Paul had a lot more wacky idea's than that you need to do a little research and maybe crack a history book. We have never been a isolationistic society. There never has been a country so big as ours, that has done so much and asked so little. we may not like it but we try to help and most of the times we get punched in the face. France comes to mind first.
 
Seamaiden

Seamaiden

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WWgrower said:
Ron Paul had a lot more wacky idea's than that you need to do a little research and maybe crack a history book. We have never been a isolationistic society. There never has been a country so big as ours, that has done so much and asked so little. we may not like it but we try to help and most of the times we get punched in the face. France comes to mind first.
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:? Really...? So.. we didn't start out as isolationists?

If you take the time to research RP you'll find that he is actually quite knowledgeable about the economy, and that's what is hurting most for us all right now.
 
WWgrower

WWgrower

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Oh and by the way, yes congress and the house of reps do make the laws. But if you have a president that opposes your screwed to begin with. It's all about trying to put the right amount of people in who share our ideas. Then they slowly move to where we would like them to.
 
Seamaiden

Seamaiden

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Honestly, the biggest detriment to American politics is the corporate-sized lobby. Not just corporate lobby, but the HUGE lobbies like the AARP, NRA, and lawyer's associations and insurance conglomerations. Until we get a handle on that, we will never change direction.
 
Seamaiden

Seamaiden

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WWgrower said:
Oh and by the way, yes congress and the house of reps do make the laws. But if you have a president that opposes your screwed to begin with. It's all about trying to put the right amount of people in who share our ideas. Then they slowly move to where we would like them to.
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I forgot to mention that any presidential veto can be overridden. It requires a 2/3 majority vote.

With regard to lobbies, I think that this is a case where better and stricter guidelines are needed, much in the same way that if one wishes to donate to a political candidate you must essentially declare that you are not doing so as or on behalf of a corporation. That's what PACs are for. :)
 
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