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Obama Legilization of marijuana

JonnyBtreed

JonnyBtreed

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Since this thread was started Obama has come around slightly in October with telling the Feds to lay off the Dispensary's. He IS starting fulfill that campaign promise, which is a good sign. I just don't like the way this country is going equality wise...

Now I don't care what any black person ,woman, latino or native american (indian) says AMERICA IS NOT EQUAL! As a minority you have the upper hand. Your an idiot if you think you don't. I wish it were equal. I wish that if a hundred people went in for a federal or a state job and they had 5 positions available, That the five best people would get those jobs. THAT would be equality. Not Giving one to the Best Black person, and One to the best Latino, and one to the best woman who applied and then work off the top of the list after you filled your minority quota. That is NOT Equality!!!!!! That's bullshit. And a lot of the time, the "Best" of those people don't even make the top 20... I said it... Say what you will...... If you just make do to make people happy which this country has been doing for about 20 years. Your just diluting the greatness that built this country up to where we were. Good Feelings don't keep country's running smoothly. Hard work and Responsibility do.

oh and before you play the race card on me - We have a black president. No minority anywhere has a " the system's holding us back excuse " sorry....
 
DubsFan

DubsFan

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JonnyBtreed said:
Since this thread was started Obama has come around slightly in October with telling the Feds to lay off the Dispensary's. He IS starting fulfill that campaign promise, which is a good sign. I just don't like the way this country is going equality wise...

Now I don't care what any black person ,woman, latino or native american (indian) says AMERICA IS NOT EQUAL! As a minority you have the upper hand. Your an idiot if you think you don't. I wish it were equal. I wish that if a hundred people went in for a federal or a state job and they had 5 positions available, That the five best people would get those jobs. THAT would be equality. Not Giving one to the Best Black person, and One to the best Latino, and one to the best woman who applied and then work off the top of the list after you filled your minority quota. That is NOT Equality!!!!!! That's bullshit. And a lot of the time, the "Best" of those people don't even make the top 20... I said it... Say what you will...... If you just make do to make people happy which this country has been doing for about 20 years. Your just diluting the greatness that built this country up to where we were. Good Feeling don't keep countrys running smoothly. Hard work and Responsibility do.

oh and before you play the race card on me - We have a black president. No minority anywhere has a " the system's holding us back excuse " sorry....
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What about the 23 MMJ raids in San Diego 60 days ago? SD has flat out said they will remain hostile to MMJ. Many of the 23 raided dispensaries had their cash and inventory taken. They will do no time but won't get their day in court of another 8mo. In fact many feel the charges will be dropped. But the DEA did raid what many say were legit MMJ dispensaries. The problem is you cannot get any facts from anybody. Obama is not flying in on a helicopter here folks. If the city/county is hostile to MMJ the DEA will get involved...believe it.
 
JonnyBtreed

JonnyBtreed

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DubsFan said:
What about the 23 MMJ raids in San Diego 60 days ago? SD has flat out said they will remain hostile to MMJ. Many of the 23 raided dispensaries had their cash and inventory taken. They will do no time but won't get their day in court of another 8mo. In fact many feel the charges will be dropped. But the DEA did raid what many say were legit MMJ dispensaries. The problem is you cannot get any facts from anybody. Obama is not flying in on a helicopter here folks. If the city/county is hostile to MMJ the DEA will get involved...believe it.
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I understand that. But at least he said it. Now it's "out of his hands"
 
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Grower1

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Here in Ca, our state atty general, Jerry Brown, gave the local cops and DA's all the ammunition they needed to start raiding and closing dispensaries when he issued his "guidelines" last year. They clearly set out that the way dispensaries have been operating is not legal, because they don't get all their supplies from thier own members, and then it became a cakewalk for the locals to stop the dispensaries from operating. And that's what they're doing, not just in san Diego, but now in Los Angeles, and it will probably go up and down the state until the local "authorities' hassle every dispensary. Fasten your seatbelts Californians, it's going to be a bumpy ride!!!
 
OregonMeds

OregonMeds

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Grower1 said:
Here in Ca, our state atty general, Jerry Brown, gave the local cops and DA's all the ammunition they needed to start raiding and closing dispensaries when he issued his "guidelines" last year. They clearly set out that the way dispensaries have been operating is not legal, because they don't get all their supplies from thier own members, and then it became a cakewalk for the locals to stop the dispensaries from operating. And that's what they're doing, not just in san Diego, but now in Los Angeles, and it will probably go up and down the state until the local "authorities' hassle every dispensary. Fasten your seatbelts Californians, it's going to be a bumpy ride!!!
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SD just lost the war with the latest court decision that sales are legal there because the law is too vague.
http://www.canorml.org/news/jackson.html

They can bring all the cases they want on whatever charges they want and in all likelihood at this point they will be found not guilty or dismissed unless the MMJ law is changed for the worse there first.

In all likelihood they will never get anywhere again on the MMJ hassling front unless someone breaks the law in a huge way, which then is no longer MMJ just illegal drugs.

What we need for now on the federal level isn't legalization, we just need it moved to schedule2. I'm not sure what power the president has to get that done if he wanted to. (And the question of if he would want to is probably no because the issue is too hot.)
 
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Grower1

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They don't seem to care about ultimate convictions,they just care about harassing and they'll continue to do it all they want. They're now relying not on local statutes but the atty general's guidelines, and they have the right to do it. Tell everyone in Los Angeles that they're going to stop harassing, because it sure doesn't seem that way to them. The city atty and the local DA have both said they will continue to close dispensaries as much as they please because they're not operating according to the atty general's guidelines. Nothing to do with vagueness of a local statute.
 
OregonMeds

OregonMeds

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I didn't say LA I said SD. Like you said it's now down to a local thing. You can bet they want to keep on keeping on, no disagreement there.
 
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