Obama slime lies

Dr Kynes

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Doc, FOX distortions get into the legitimate dialog and finally into the national memory. There are dozens of incidences where Fox has managed to inflict a lie into debate and thereby cement that lie for others to use and reuse as "the truth".
and i could give you thousands of examples of the same action by the "legitimate" press through the years. heres just a few:

remember the maine
our man in moscow says stalin is a great guy
our man in havana says castro is a great guy
we can contain communism
duck and cover will save you in a nuclear blast
nuclear winter will end all life
there are communists in washingotn and hollywood.
"marijuana" is an addictive drug that gives negroes superhuman strength that only lynching can defeat
nixon personally ordered the plumbers to break into the watergate hotel
henry kissinger is a great guy
clinton's impeachment is just about sex
jimmy carter is a great man with brilliant ideas
ronald reagan is a moron
george w bush is a moron
dan quail doesnt know how to spell potatoe
barack hussein obama is a constitutional scholar
we have to pass this bill (obamacare) so we can read it
obamacare will save money
obamacare insurance will cost people less
there is no mandate
ok, so there is a mandate, but it wont force anyone to...
ohh so thats what a mandate is... umm fuck you, i'm a dragon.
obamacare will reduce the deficit by increasing the deficit
obamacare will reduce the debt by increasing the debt
obama is gonna close down guantanamo bay
the meathead tax is only 50 cents a pack (plus 50 cents to the distributor making $1)
the meathead tax will fund women's and infant's healthcare programs
the california lottery will give more money to the schools
de-regulating the electrical utilities will lower costs for the "consumers" and increase "choice" without sacrificing reliability
solyndra is a good investment in the future'
we can trust the UN to make sensible decisions on anything
obama is a US citizen (actually he is not but only through a technicality)

and thats just off the top of my head.



overall fox has been far more honest and exhibited much greater levels of truthiness than the "legitimate press"
 

canndo

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overall fox has been far more honest and exhibited much greater levels of truthiness than the "legitimate press"

Not if you look at the only thing that one can use as a measure of veracity in reporting, the level of information absorbed by the watchers of the particular news outlet.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/dec10/Misinformation_Dec10_rpt.pdf
http://www.inquisitr.com/241677/study-fox-news-viewers-less-informed-than-those-who-watch-no-news-at-all/
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/16/business/media/16pew.html?_r=1

There is one study there and two refereneces to other studies - that's three.


Your exhaustive list is wonderful doc, except that it is all opinion. As I said, we can really only tell how authentic a news organization is by how informed its viewers become as a result of watching.

(of course some of the questions are still a matter of opinion but not many)
 

Dr Kynes

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WOW :shock: ... Fox News is for idiots


wow, i have seen much more deliberate and retarded assertions from the "legitimate press" than that typo, so i guess the "legitimate press" is for assholes who love lies and deception.

including

video from the Routt Blowdown used as an example of "clearcut logging" :-P

a 22lr cartridge being described as a "high powered armor piercing shell" :roll:

black talon bullets described as "Cop Killer" ammunition :dunce:

"dum dum" bullets described as the "new" threat on the streets :D

a 500 gallon water spill on the trans alaska pipeline described as an "environmental disaster" :???:

a geo metro with 4 occupants engaged in a "high speed chase" with speeds "in excess of 100 mph" :oops:

need i continue?
 

canndo

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wow, i have seen much more deliberate and retarded assertions from the "legitimate press" than that typo, so i guess the "legitimate press" is for assholes who love lies and deception.

including

video from the Routt Blowdown used as an example of "clearcut logging" :-P

a 22lr cartridge being described as a "high powered armor piercing shell" :roll:

black talon bullets described as "Cop Killer" ammunition :dunce:

"dum dum" bullets described as the "new" threat on the streets :D

a 500 gallon water spill on the trans alaska pipeline described as an "environmental disaster" :???:

a geo metro with 4 occupants engaged in a "high speed chase" with speeds "in excess of 100 mph" :oops:

need i continue?

Actually yes doc, because I have already given you the ultimate measure of a news organization's subterfuge.
 

Dr Kynes

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Not if you look at the only thing that one can use as a measure of veracity in reporting, the level of information absorbed by the watchers of the particular news outlet.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/dec10/Misinformation_Dec10_rpt.pdf
http://www.inquisitr.com/241677/study-fox-news-viewers-less-informed-than-those-who-watch-no-news-at-all/
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/16/business/media/16pew.html?_r=1

There is one study there and two refereneces to other studies - that's three.


Your exhaustive list is wonderful doc, except that it is all opinion. As I said, we can really only tell how authentic a news organization is by how informed its viewers become as a result of watching.

(of course some of the questions are still a matter of opinion but not many)
Link 1) the same "report" from "world public opinion .org" an opinion polling organization that never claimed to be scientific,,, and in fact is the SAME ONE I DISCUSSED EARLIER which made assumptions including:

global warning is scientific fact because the national academy for the sciences determined it to be so. the US national academy for the sciences does not "determine" scientific fact. it does not in any way determine anything of the sort.
obamacare will reduce the debt... somehow... pure opinion based on assumptions and wishful thinking
etc...

Link 2) a shabby re-iteration of the information manufactured by the pollsters in link 1, with no adequate sourcing and a fundamental misunderstanding (more like a deliberately misleading interpretation) of the difference between scientific study and a fucking goddamned opinion poll!

Link 3) another fucking opinion poll.

you exhibit some pretty shabby research here, your sources are useless and your conclusion was not supported by even their own intellectually lazy "research" methodology.

not your best effort, try harder next time.

D-

i may have to hold you back next year.
 

Dr Kynes

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Actually yes doc, because I have already given you the ultimate measure of a news organization's subterfuge.
all you provided was your personal opinion and a segment of the tonight show with Jay Leno, called "Jay-Walking" where Leno asks random New Yorkers questions designed to get hilarious answers

my favorite was
Leno: "What phrase was Nathan Hale famous for saying?"
Dude on the Street: "Gilligan little buddy!"

while Jay-Walking was hilarious it does not prove anything scientifically or otherwise. if it did, then New York would have proved itself incompetent to vote on any issue of national importance and they should lose their congressional delegation and senatorial representatives.
 

canndo

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Link 1) the same "report" from "world public opinion .org" an opinion polling organization that never claimed to be scientific,,, and in fact is the SAME ONE I DISCUSSED EARLIER which made assumptions including:

global warning is scientific fact because the national academy for the sciences determined it to be so. the US national academy for the sciences does not "determine" scientific fact. it does not in any way determine anything of the sort.
obamacare will reduce the debt... somehow... pure opinion based on assumptions and wishful thinking
etc...

Link 2) a shabby re-iteration of the information manufactured by the pollsters in link 1, with no adequate sourcing and a fundamental misunderstanding (more like a deliberately misleading interpretation) of the difference between scientific study and a fucking goddamned opinion poll!

Link 3) another fucking opinion poll.

you exhibit some pretty shabby research here, your sources are useless and your conclusion was not supported by even their own intellectually lazy "research" methodology.

not your best effort, try harder next time.

D-

i may have to hold you back next year.


Wait a minute,a poll is when one asks questions of people. Now how might you go about the task of discovering what someone knows without asking questions?

If you will note I said some of it was unfortunately opinion.

There are more, plenty actually, those were simply the first three I found. Now, how about showing me the same sorts of things that demonstrate how WELL informed Fox viewers are compared to the other news outlets or... not watching the news at all.
 

Dr Kynes

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Wait a minute,a poll is when one asks questions of people. Now how might you go about the task of discovering what someone knows without asking questions?

If you will note I said some of it was unfortunately opinion.

There are more, plenty actually, those were simply the first three I found. Now, how about showing me the same sorts of things that demonstrate how WELL informed Fox viewers are compared to the other news outlets or... not watching the news at all.
you wish that i should produce scientifically valid studies showing that fox viewers are smarter more handsome and get laid more often than MSNBC viewers? do you know how science works?

people who listen and are engaged will never "con sume media" from one source,, they listen to many sources and read many things. anyone who only slurps down what fox supplies will obviously be uninformed on many issues,, likewise the MSNBC drones who suckle at the teat of Chris "Tingles" Mathews will only know what Chris "Tingles" Mathews tells them, so it would be incredibly simple for me to craft a questionnaire that they would fail miserably at. even if i limit myself to strictly factual questions (which none of your cited polls did) and i doubt if i gave you a pile of motorcycle parts you could assemble a working bike, likewise i could not manufacture the incredibly powerful narcotics required to allow me to listen to Ed Schultz without flying into a rage.

your opinion polls are not scientific, and prove nothing except the smug self-satisfaction of the interlocutor as he videotapes himself jacking off, while watching a video tape of himself jacking off. (psst, im saying those polls are infinitely reductive masturbation)
 

zambonic

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Reading these post on this site is like watching two monkey's trying to fuck a football. (Oh shit, I talked poorly about footballs.. I will probably be called a racist...damn) When are people going to wake up and realize that is what these assholes want. As long as we continue to bicker over stupid shit, and become more divided they will continue to rape this once great country.
George Carlin once said:
" The people in charge of this country they don't give a fuck about you. They don't give a fuck about you."
 

Moses Mobetta

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Reading these post on this site is like watching two monkey's trying to fuck a football. (Oh shit, I talked poorly about footballs.. I will probably be called a racist...damn) When are people going to wake up and realize that is what these assholes want. As long as we continue to bicker over stupid shit, and become more divided they will continue to rape this once great country.
George Carlin once said:
" The people in charge of this country they don't give a fuck about you. They don't give a fuck about you."
Can you say that again I didn't hear you?
 
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