Obamacare still twice as popular as Republicans

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
I'll take single payer like every other civilized country, thanks.
Just my opinion but if we go universal I'd like to see it catastrophic or hospitalization only with free clinics set up for those that can't afford a doctor. We could even offer scholarships for new doctors with a caveat of years service in these clinics. I'd like to see all private practice being paid in cash without insurance so we can see true costs. Insurance is the devil, but if people still want it after this for specialty care or whatever it will be available.

This is my compromise position, my real desire to fix a lot of the issues involves health savings accounts, but that's just not realistic for everyone.

Over the last 20 years, I've grown to despise insurance companies (caid and care especially) and hate the way the system operates. What we've done is further entrenched the worst things about health care. I know there are still 2 of 5 that support O'care but those numbers are dwindling as people find that what they are told and what it is don't match. I'm hopeful we learn from our mistakes. Hopeful, but doubtful.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
[h=1]Americans More Likely to Identify as Independents Than Democrats or Republicans[/h]Independent party identification reached a record high in 2013. Gallup Editor-in-Chief Frank Newport shares that 42% of Americans identify as independents, compared with 31% as Democrats and 25% as Republicans.
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
From RCP itself and Ezra Kline, one of the biggest cheerleaders.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/11/19/a_devastating_poll_on_obama_--_and_obamacare_120708.html

"The Affordable Care Act's political position has deteriorated dramatically over the last week." That, coming from longtime Obamacare cheerleader and Washington Post blogger Ezra Klein, was pretty strong language. And it was only Wednesday.
That was the day after the release of a devastating Quinnipiac national poll. It showed Barack Obama's approval rating at 39 percent, with his disapproval rating at 54 percent -- sharply down from 45 percent approval and 49 percent disapproval on Oct. 1, the day the government shutdown began and healthcare.gov went into (limited) operation.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
From RCP itself and Ezra Kline, one of the biggest cheerleaders.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/11/19/a_devastating_poll_on_obama_--_and_obamacare_120708.html

"The Affordable Care Act's political position has deteriorated dramatically over the last week." That, coming from longtime Obamacare cheerleader and Washington Post blogger Ezra Klein, was pretty strong language. And it was only Wednesday.
That was the day after the release of a devastating Quinnipiac national poll. It showed Barack Obama's approval rating at 39 percent, with his disapproval rating at 54 percent -- sharply down from 45 percent approval and 49 percent disapproval on Oct. 1, the day the government shutdown began and healthcare.gov went into (limited) operation.
ah, now you are trying to change the goalposts because numbers give you a headache and prove what a liar you are.


RCP Average12/12 - 1/12--40.055.3Against/Oppose +15.3
Rasmussen Reports*1/11 - 1/121000 LV4156Against/Oppose +15
Quinnipiac1/4 - 1/71487 RV4056Against/Oppose +16
Gallup1/3 - 1/41020 A3854Against/Oppose +16
Rasmussen Reports*12/27 - 12/281000 LV4056Against/Oppose +16
Rasmussen Reports*12/20 - 12/211000 LV4154Against/Oppose +13
CNN/Opinion Research12/16 - 12/191035 A3562Against/Oppose +27
FOX News*12/14 - 12/161027 RV4153Against/Oppose +12
ABC News/Wash Post12/12 - 12/15RV4551Against/Oppose +6
Gallup12/11 - 12/121011 A4151Against/Oppose +10
CBS News/NY Times12/5 - 12/81000 A3950Against/Oppose +11
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl12/4 - 12/81000 A3450Against/Oppose +16
Reason-Rupe/PSRAI12/4 - 12/81011 A3455Against/Oppose +21
Rasmussen Reports*12/6 - 12/71000 LV4056Against/Oppose +16
Associated Press/GfK12/5 - 12/91367 A2744Against/Oppose +17
Quinnipiac12/3 - 12/92692 RV3957Against/Oppose +18
USA Today/Pew Research12/3 - 12/82001 A4154Against/Oppose +13
Gallup11/23 - 11/241034 A4054Against/Oppose +14
Rasmussen Reports*11/23 - 11/241000 LV3658Against/Oppose +22
CNN/Opinion Research11/18 - 11/20843 A4058Against/Oppose +18
CBS News11/15 - 11/181010 A3161Against/Oppose +30
Reuters/Ipsos11/14 - 11/18A4159Against/Oppose +18
Rasmussen Reports*11/15 - 11/161000 LV3858Against/Oppose +20
ABC News/Wash Post11/14 - 11/17RV4355Against/Oppose +12
Gallup11/7 - 11/101039 A4055Against/Oppose +15
Rasmussen Reports*11/9 - 11/101000 LV3555Against/Oppose +20
Quinnipiac11/6 - 11/112545 RV3955Against/Oppose +16
Rasmussen Reports*11/1 - 11/21000 LV4353Against/Oppose +10
GWU/Battleground10/27 - 10/311000 LV4353Against/Oppose +10
Gallup10/26 - 10/281530 A4447Against/Oppose +3
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl10/25 - 10/28800 A3747Against/Oppose +10
FOX News*10/20 - 10/221020 RV4151Against/Oppose +10
CBS News10/18 - 10/211007 A4351Against/Oppose +8
CNN/Opinion Research10/18 - 10/20841 A4156Against/Oppose +15
Gallup10/18 - 10/201528 A4550Against/Oppose +5
Rasmussen Reports*10/18 - 10/191000 LV4648Against/Oppose +2
ABC News/Wash Post10/17 - 10/201002 A4649Against/Oppose +3
Reuters/Ipsos10/1 - 10/3111999 A4753Against/Oppose +6
Rasmussen Reports*10/12 - 10/131000 LV4752Against/Oppose +5
Pew Research10/9 - 10/131504 A4152Against/Oppose +11
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl10/7 - 10/9800 A3843Against/Oppose +5
Associated Press/GfK10/3 - 10/71227 A2838Against/Oppose +10
Rasmussen Reports*10/4 - 10/51000 LV4549Against/Oppose +4
FOX News*10/1 - 10/2952 RV3652Against/Oppose +16
CBS News10/1 - 10/21021 A4351Against/Oppose +8
Reuters/Ipsos9/27 - 10/12242 A4456Against/Oppose +12
CNN/Opinion Research9/27 - 9/29803 A3857Against/Oppose +19
Quinnipiac9/23 - 9/291497 RV4547Against/Oppose +2
CBS News/NY Times9/19 - 9/231014 A3951Against/Oppose +12
Rasmussen Reports*9/14 - 9/151000 LV4353Against/Oppose +10
ABC News/Wash Post9/12 - 9/151004 A4252Against/Oppose +10
Reuters/Ipsos9/1 - 9/3011906 A4456Against/Oppose +12
CNN/Opinion Research*9/6 - 9/81022 A3957Against/Oppose +18
FOX News*9/6 - 9/8900 RV3554Against/Oppose +19
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl9/5 - 9/81000 A3144Against/Oppose +13
USA Today/Pew Research9/4 - 9/81506 A4253Against/Oppose +11
Rasmussen Reports*8/31 - 9/11000 LV4152Against/Oppose +11
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
btw, here's the rest of the polling data that you must have "accidently" left out.
[h=3]Polling Data[/h]
PollDateSampleFor/Favor Against/Oppose Spread
RCP Average12/12 - 1/12--40.055.3Against/Oppose +15.3
Rasmussen Reports*1/11 - 1/121000 LV4156Against/Oppose +15
Quinnipiac1/4 - 1/71487 RV4056Against/Oppose +16
Gallup1/3 - 1/41020 A3854Against/Oppose +16
Rasmussen Reports*12/27 - 12/281000 LV4056Against/Oppose +16
Rasmussen Reports*12/20 - 12/211000 LV4154Against/Oppose +13
CNN/Opinion Research12/16 - 12/191035 A3562Against/Oppose +27
FOX News*12/14 - 12/161027 RV4153Against/Oppose +12
ABC News/Wash Post12/12 - 12/15RV4551Against/Oppose +6
Gallup12/11 - 12/121011 A4151Against/Oppose +10
CBS News/NY Times12/5 - 12/81000 A3950Against/Oppose +11
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl12/4 - 12/81000 A3450Against/Oppose +16
Reason-Rupe/PSRAI12/4 - 12/81011 A3455Against/Oppose +21
Rasmussen Reports*12/6 - 12/71000 LV4056Against/Oppose +16
Associated Press/GfK12/5 - 12/91367 A2744Against/Oppose +17
Quinnipiac12/3 - 12/92692 RV3957Against/Oppose +18
USA Today/Pew Research12/3 - 12/82001 A4154Against/Oppose +13
Gallup11/23 - 11/241034 A4054Against/Oppose +14
Rasmussen Reports*11/23 - 11/241000 LV3658Against/Oppose +22
CNN/Opinion Research11/18 - 11/20843 A4058Against/Oppose +18
CBS News11/15 - 11/181010 A3161Against/Oppose +30
Reuters/Ipsos11/14 - 11/18A4159Against/Oppose +18
Rasmussen Reports*11/15 - 11/161000 LV3858Against/Oppose +20
ABC News/Wash Post11/14 - 11/17RV4355Against/Oppose +12
Gallup11/7 - 11/101039 A4055Against/Oppose +15
Rasmussen Reports*11/9 - 11/101000 LV3555Against/Oppose +20
Quinnipiac11/6 - 11/112545 RV3955Against/Oppose +16
Rasmussen Reports*11/1 - 11/21000 LV4353Against/Oppose +10
GWU/Battleground10/27 - 10/311000 LV4353Against/Oppose +10
Gallup10/26 - 10/281530 A4447Against/Oppose +3
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl10/25 - 10/28800 A3747Against/Oppose +10
FOX News*10/20 - 10/221020 RV4151Against/Oppose +10
CBS News10/18 - 10/211007 A4351Against/Oppose +8
CNN/Opinion Research10/18 - 10/20841 A4156Against/Oppose +15
Gallup10/18 - 10/201528 A4550Against/Oppose +5
Rasmussen Reports*10/18 - 10/191000 LV4648Against/Oppose +2
ABC News/Wash Post10/17 - 10/201002 A4649Against/Oppose +3
Reuters/Ipsos10/1 - 10/3111999 A4753Against/Oppose +6
Rasmussen Reports*10/12 - 10/131000 LV4752Against/Oppose +5
Pew Research10/9 - 10/131504 A4152Against/Oppose +11
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl10/7 - 10/9800 A3843Against/Oppose +5
Associated Press/GfK10/3 - 10/71227 A2838Against/Oppose +10
Rasmussen Reports*10/4 - 10/51000 LV4549Against/Oppose +4
FOX News*10/1 - 10/2952 RV3652Against/Oppose +16
CBS News10/1 - 10/21021 A4351Against/Oppose +8
Reuters/Ipsos9/27 - 10/12242 A4456Against/Oppose +12
CNN/Opinion Research9/27 - 9/29803 A3857Against/Oppose +19
Quinnipiac9/23 - 9/291497 RV4547Against/Oppose +2
CBS News/NY Times9/19 - 9/231014 A3951Against/Oppose +12
Rasmussen Reports*9/14 - 9/151000 LV4353Against/Oppose +10
ABC News/Wash Post9/12 - 9/151004 A4252Against/Oppose +10
Reuters/Ipsos9/1 - 9/3011906 A4456Against/Oppose +12
CNN/Opinion Research*9/6 - 9/81022 A3957Against/Oppose +18
FOX News*9/6 - 9/8900 RV3554Against/Oppose +19
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl9/5 - 9/81000 A3144Against/Oppose +13
USA Today/Pew Research9/4 - 9/81506 A4253Against/Oppose +11
Rasmussen Reports*8/31 - 9/11000 LV4152Against/Oppose +11
Rasmussen Reports*8/17 - 8/181000 LV4154Against/Oppose +13
Gallup8/17 - 8/181021 A4149Against/Oppose +8
Rasmussen Reports*8/9 - 8/101000 LV4153Against/Oppose +12
Rasmussen Reports*7/26 - 7/271000 LV4253Against/Oppose +11
FOX News*7/21 - 7/231017 RV4053Against/Oppose +13
CBS News7/18 - 7/221036 A3654Against/Oppose +18
ABC News/Wash Post7/18 - 7/211002 A4249Against/Oppose +7
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl7/17 - 7/211000 A3447Against/Oppose +13
Rasmussen Reports*7/12 - 7/131000 LV4550Against/Oppose +5
Rasmussen Reports*7/6 - 7/71000 LV3955Against/Oppose +16
Rasmussen Reports*6/22 - 6/231000 LV4350Against/Oppose +7
Gallup6/20 - 6/242048 A4452Against/Oppose +8
FOX News6/9 - 6/111019 RV4055Against/Oppose +15
Rasmussen Reports*6/8 - 6/91000 LV3953Against/Oppose +14
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl5/30 - 6/21000 A3749Against/Oppose +12
Rasmussen Reports*5/31 - 6/11000 LV4154Against/Oppose +13
FOX News*5/18 - 5/201013 RV3456Against/Oppose +22
CNN/Opinion Research5/17 - 5/18923 A4354Against/Oppose +11
Rasmussen Reports*5/17 - 5/181000 LV4351Against/Oppose +8
Rasmussen Reports*5/3 - 5/41000 LV3955Against/Oppose +16
Rasmussen Reports*4/27 - 4/281000 LV4349Against/Oppose +6
FOX News*4/20 - 4/221009 RV4154Against/Oppose +13
Quinnipiac3/26 - 4/11711 RV4146Against/Oppose +5
Rasmussen Reports*3/22 - 3/231000 LV4450Against/Oppose +6
CBS News3/20 - 3/241181 A3544Against/Oppose +9
Rasmussen Reports*3/8 - 3/91000 LV4548Against/Oppose +3
Rasmussen Reports*2/22 - 2/231000 LV4548Against/Oppose +3
Rasmussen Reports*1/25 - 1/261000 LV4551Against/Oppose +6
CNN/Opinion Research*1/14 - 1/15814 A5144For/Favor +7
Rasmussen Reports*12/10 - 12/111000 LV4649Against/Oppose +3
CNN/Opinion Research11/16 - 11/18RV4252Against/Oppose +10
Gallup11/15 - 11/181015 A4845For/Favor +3
Rasmussen Reports*11/4 - 11/41000 LV4450Against/Oppose +6
Rasmussen Reports*10/27 - 10/281000 LV3954Against/Oppose +15
Rasmussen Reports*10/19 - 10/201000 LV4252Against/Oppose +10
Rasmussen Reports*10/13 - 10/141000 LV4252Against/Oppose +10
Rasmussen Reports*10/5 - 10/61000 LV3954Against/Oppose +15
Rasmussen Reports*9/29 - 9/301000 LV4252Against/Oppose +10
Rasmussen Reports*9/21 - 9/221000 LV4152Against/Oppose +11
Rasmussen Reports*9/15 - 9/161000 LV4353Against/Oppose +10
CBS News/NY Times9/8 - 9/121162 LV4250Against/Oppose +8
Rasmussen Reports*9/7 - 9/81000 LV4450Against/Oppose +6
Rasmussen Reports*8/24 - 8/251000 LV4151Against/Oppose +10
Resurgent Republic (R)8/16 - 8/221000 LV4347Against/Oppose +4
Rasmussen Reports*8/18 - 8/191000 LV3952Against/Oppose +13
Rasmussen Reports*8/10 - 8/113500 LV3856Against/Oppose +18
Rasmussen Reports*8/4 - 8/51000 LV4450Against/Oppose +6
Rasmussen Reports*7/27 - 7/281000 LV3955Against/Oppose +16
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl7/18 - 7/221000 A4044Against/Oppose +4
Rasmussen Reports*7/20 - 7/211000 LV4352Against/Oppose +9
CBS News/NY Times7/11 - 7/161089 A3650Against/Oppose +14
Rasmussen Reports*7/13 - 7/141000 LV4252Against/Oppose +10
NPR7/9 - 7/121000 LV4348Against/Oppose +5
Rasmussen Reports*7/7 - 7/81000 LV4153Against/Oppose +12
Reuters/Ipsos7/5 - 7/91154 A4548Against/Oppose +3
ABC News/Wash Post7/5 - 7/81003 A4747Tie
Quinnipiac*7/1 - 7/82722 RV4349Against/Oppose +6
Pew Research6/28 - 7/92973 A4743For/Favor +4
CNN/Opinion Research*6/28 - 7/11390 RV5247For/Favor +5
Rasmussen Reports*6/29 - 6/301000 LV3952Against/Oppose +13
FOX News6/24 - 6/26912 RV3949Against/Oppose +10
Rasmussen Reports*6/23 - 6/241000 LV3954Against/Oppose +15
ABC News/Wash Post6/20 - 6/24RV3755Against/Oppose +18
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl6/20 - 6/241000 A3541Against/Oppose +6
Associated Press/GfK6/14 - 6/181007 A3347Against/Oppose +14
Rasmussen Reports*6/9 - 6/101000 LV3953Against/Oppose +14
Reuters/Ipsos6/7 - 6/111099 A4544For/Favor +1
CBS News/NY Times5/31 - 6/3976 A3448Against/Oppose +14
CNN/Opinion Research5/29 - 5/311009 A4351Against/Oppose +8
Rasmussen Reports*5/26 - 5/271000 LV3955Against/Oppose +16
Rasmussen Reports*5/12 - 5/121000 LV3756Against/Oppose +19
Rasmussen Reports*4/28 - 4/291000 LV3655Against/Oppose +19
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl4/13 - 4/171000 A3645Against/Oppose +9
CBS News/NY Times4/13 - 4/17957 A3947Against/Oppose +8
Quinnipiac*4/11 - 4/172577 RV3851Against/Oppose +13
Rasmussen Reports*4/14 - 4/151000 LV3756Against/Oppose +19
FOX News4/9 - 4/11910 RV4053Against/Oppose +13
ABC News/Wash Post4/5 - 4/81003 A3953Against/Oppose +14
Rasmussen Reports*3/31 - 4/11000 LV4054Against/Oppose +14
CNN/Opinion Research3/24 - 3/251014 A4350Against/Oppose +7
National Journal3/22 - 3/251003 A4347Against/Oppose +4
CBS News/NY Times3/21 - 3/25986 A3647Against/Oppose +11
Rasmussen Reports*3/17 - 3/183500 LV3956Against/Oppose +17
Reason-Rupe3/10 - 3/201200 A3250Against/Oppose +18
Pew Research3/7 - 3/111503 A4745For/Favor +2
Rasmussen Reports*3/3 - 3/41000 LV4253Against/Oppose +11
Gallup**2/20 - 2/211040 A4447Against/Oppose +3
Quinnipiac*2/14 - 2/202605 RV3952Against/Oppose +13
Rasmussen Reports*2/18 - 2/191000 LV3853Against/Oppose +15
Rasmussen Reports*2/4 - 2/51000 LV4154Against/Oppose +13
Rasmussen Reports*1/21 - 1/221000 LV4152Against/Oppose +11
Rasmussen Reports*1/7 - 1/81000 LV4254Against/Oppose +12
Rasmussen Reports*12/22 - 12/221000 LV3953Against/Oppose +14
Associated Press/GfK12/8 - 12/121000 A2949Against/Oppose +20
Rasmussen Reports*12/10 - 12/111000 LV3555Against/Oppose +20
CBS News12/5 - 12/7856 A3551Against/Oppose +16
Rasmussen Reports*11/27 - 11/271000 LV4053Against/Oppose +13
Quinnipiac*11/14 - 11/202552 RV4147Against/Oppose +6
Rasmussen Reports*11/11 - 11/121000 LV3755Against/Oppose +18
Gallup*11/3 - 11/61012 A4247Against/Oppose +5
Resurgent Republic (R)10/30 - 11/21000 RV4148Against/Oppose +7
Rasmussen Reports*10/28 - 10/291000 LV3954Against/Oppose +15
Rasmussen Reports*10/14 - 10/151000 LV3854Against/Oppose +16
Rasmussen Reports*9/30 - 10/11000 LV3951Against/Oppose +12
Rasmussen Reports*9/16 - 9/171000 LV3656Against/Oppose +20
Rasmussen Reports*9/2 - 9/31000 LV3657Against/Oppose +21
Rasmussen Reports*8/27 - 8/281000 LV3757Against/Oppose +20
Rasmussen Reports*8/19 - 8/201000 LV3855Against/Oppose +17
Rasmussen Reports*8/13 - 8/141000 LV4054Against/Oppose +14
Rasmussen Reports*8/5 - 8/61000 LV4054Against/Oppose +14
Rasmussen Reports*7/30 - 7/311000 LV3955Against/Oppose +16
Rasmussen Reports*7/22 - 7/231000 LV3657Against/Oppose +21
Rasmussen Reports*7/16 - 7/171000 LV3954Against/Oppose +15
Rasmussen Reports*7/8 - 7/91000 LV4053Against/Oppose +13
Rasmussen Reports*7/2 - 7/21000 LV3953Against/Oppose +14
Rasmussen Reports*6/24 - 6/251000 LV3855Against/Oppose +17
Associated Press/GfK6/16 - 6/201001 A3646Against/Oppose +10
Rasmussen Reports*6/18 - 6/191000 LV4253Against/Oppose +11
Rasmussen Reports*6/10 - 6/111000 LV3554Against/Oppose +19
CNN/Opinion Research6/3 - 6/71015 A3956Against/Oppose +17
CBS News6/3 - 6/71024 A3748Against/Oppose +11
Rasmussen Reports*6/4 - 6/51000 LV3954Against/Oppose +15
Rasmussen Reports*5/28 - 5/291000 LV4151Against/Oppose +10
Rasmussen Reports*5/21 - 5/221000 LV4351Against/Oppose +8
Rasmussen Reports*5/13 - 5/141000 LV3855Against/Oppose +17
Politico/GWU/Battleground*5/8 - 5/121000 LV4249Against/Oppose +7
Rasmussen Reports*5/7 - 5/71000 LV3657Against/Oppose +21
Rasmussen Reports*4/29 - 4/301000 LV4247Against/Oppose +5
Rasmussen Reports*4/23 - 4/241000 LV4053Against/Oppose +13
Rasmussen Reports*4/15 - 4/161000 LV4152Against/Oppose +11
Rasmussen Reports*4/9 - 4/101000 LV4151Against/Oppose +10
Rasmussen Reports*4/1 - 4/21000 LV3954Against/Oppose +15
Rasmussen Reports*3/26 - 3/271000 LV3658Against/Oppose +22
Rasmussen Reports*3/18 - 3/191000 LV4253Against/Oppose +11
Gallup*3/18 - 3/191038 A4644For/Favor +2
Rasmussen Reports*3/12 - 3/131000 LV3362Against/Oppose +29
CNN3/11 - 3/131023 A3759Against/Oppose +22
Bloomberg*3/4 - 3/71001 A4252Against/Oppose +10
Rasmussen Reports*3/4 - 3/51000 LV3954Against/Oppose +15
Rasmussen Reports*2/26 - 2/271000 LV3953Against/Oppose +14
Rasmussen Reports*2/18 - 2/191000 LV4056Against/Oppose +16
POS (R)*2/17 - 2/21800 RV4151Against/Oppose +10
Newsweek/Daily Beast2/12 - 2/15918 LV3756Against/Oppose +19
CBS News2/11 - 2/141031 A3351Against/Oppose +18
Rasmussen Reports*2/12 - 2/131000 LV3857Against/Oppose +19
FOX News*2/7 - 2/9911 RV4248Against/Oppose +6
Rasmussen Reports*2/4 - 2/51000 LV3758Against/Oppose +21
Rasmussen Reports*1/29 - 1/301000 LV3858Against/Oppose +20
Rasmussen Reports*1/21 - 1/221000 LV4353Against/Oppose +10
FOX News*1/18 - 1/19900 RV3956Against/Oppose +17
CBS News/NY Times*1/15 - 1/191036 A4840For/Favor +8
Rasmussen Reports*1/15 - 1/161000 LV4055Against/Oppose +15
CNN/Opinion Research*1/14 - 1/161014 A4250Against/Oppose +8
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl1/13 - 1/171000 A3939Tie
ABC News/Wash Post1/13 - 1/161053 A4550Against/Oppose +5
Resurgent Republic (R)*1/12 - 1/161000 RV4449Against/Oppose +5
Democracy Corps (D)1/9 - 1/121000 LV3349Against/Oppose +16
Associated Press/GfK1/5 - 1/101001 A4041Against/Oppose +1
Rasmussen Reports*1/7 - 1/81000 LV4054Against/Oppose +14
USA Today/Gallup*1/4 - 1/51025 A4046Against/Oppose +6
Rasmussen Reports*1/2 - 1/21000 LV3660Against/Oppose +24
Rasmussen Reports*12/26 - 12/261000 A3860Against/Oppose +22
CNN/Opinion Research12/17 - 12/191008 A4354Against/Oppose +11
Rasmussen Reports*12/17 - 12/181000 LV4155Against/Oppose +14
Rasmussen Reports*12/11 - 12/121000 LV3460Against/Oppose +26
ABC News/Wash Post12/9 - 12/121001 A4352Against/Oppose +9
Bloomberg*12/4 - 12/71000 A4055Against/Oppose +15
Rasmussen Reports*12/5 - 12/61000 LV4156Against/Oppose +15
Rasmussen Reports*11/19 - 11/201000 LV3957Against/Oppose +18
Rasmussen Reports*11/28 - 11/281000 LV3758Against/Oppose +21
Rasmussen Reports*11/13 - 11/141000 LV3758Against/Oppose +21
Associated Press/GfK11/3 - 11/81000 A3847Against/Oppose +9
Rasmussen Reports*10/30 - 10/311000 LV3658Against/Oppose +22
Pew/National Journal*10/21 - 10/24588 LV4151Against/Oppose +10
Rasmussen Reports*10/22 - 10/231000 LV4253Against/Oppose +11
Associated Press/GfK10/13 - 10/181501 A4045Against/Oppose +5
Rasmussen Reports*10/16 - 10/171000 LV4055Against/Oppose +15
Bloomberg*10/7 - 10/10721 LV4247Against/Oppose +5
Rasmussen Reports*10/8 - 10/91000 LV3955Against/Oppose +16
Rasmussen Reports*10/2 - 10/31000 LV4450Against/Oppose +6
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You should have stuck with saying that the majority used to be in favor, because as you can see they actually were.

You keep trapping yourself bucko. You were right back then but in your lust to win an argument, you changed your position to the wrong side.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
From RCP itself and Ezra Kline, one of the biggest cheerleaders.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/11/19/a_devastating_poll_on_obama_--_and_obamacare_120708.html

"The Affordable Care Act's political position has deteriorated dramatically over the last week." That, coming from longtime Obamacare cheerleader and Washington Post blogger Ezra Klein, was pretty strong language. And it was only Wednesday.
That was the day after the release of a devastating Quinnipiac national poll. It showed Barack Obama's approval rating at 39 percent, with his disapproval rating at 54 percent -- sharply down from 45 percent approval and 49 percent disapproval on Oct. 1, the day the government shutdown began and healthcare.gov went into (limited) operation.
The third progress report from the White House regarding enrollment numbers in the Affordable Care Act is a stark improvement from the first two, but there’s still a long way to go to hit the administration’s own projections.
The Department of Health and Human Services released on Monday demographic information of the 2.2 million ObamaCare enrollees via state and federal exchanges through Dec. 28

http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2014/01/13/young-people-are-enrolling-in-obamacare-but-are-enough-them/

I love it when Foxbusiness goes against Fox news
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Hey finwilly
If you want I can dig up a report from Fox Business Claiming Illegals contribute more to the economy than they take out
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Hey finwilly
If you want I can dig up a report from Fox Business Claiming Illegals contribute more to the economy than they take out
no, you can't. because fox took it down.

all you can find now are archived copies of the report (last time i checked at least).

and fox news only reported it, the study was done by the state of texas (that liberal bastion) and was the most thorough and comprehensive report done about the costs (benefits) illegals bring to the economy.

i bet even illegal immigration is more popular than republicans nowadays.
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
Hey finwilly
If you want I can dig up a report from Fox Business Claiming Illegals contribute more to the economy than they take out
Not sure what that has to with me, but if it's get your rocks off, have at it. I can dig up a post of mine where I state very clearly that as an Earthling I feel I should be able to go anywhere on Earth I please as long as I'm not infringing on another Earthling's rights. You have me confused with that person in the box you think everyone who disagrees with you is.

Don't you think ginshaggy works better there?
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
no, you can't. because fox took it down.

all you can find now are archived copies of the report (last time i checked at least).

and fox news only reported it, the study was done by the state of texas (that liberal bastion) and was the most thorough and comprehensive report done about the costs (benefits) illegals bring to the economy.

i bet even illegal immigration is more popular than republicans nowadays.
It's archived all over the web
And yes I know they took it down
Lol

They rewrote it here
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2013/06/14/congressman-wants-texas-to-look-at-economic-impact-losing-undocumented/

In 2006, Comptroller Carole Keeton Strayhorn concluded that a loss of the undocumented immigrant population would have resulted in “a loss to our gross state product of $17.7 billion.”
But a more recent report by the Immigration Policy Center this year put the economic loss at more than twice the last estimate, which Gallego’s office said was the first such comprehensive effort by a state.
“If all unauthorized immigrants were removed from Texas, the state would lose $69.3 billion in economic activity, $30.8 billion in gross state product, and approximately 403,174 jobs, even accounting for adequate market adjustment time,” said the IPC report.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
awwww, ginwilly deleted his own post before i could tear him a new asshole for it.

i'll respond anyway and expose his lie for what it is.

what failwilly said: I know there are still 2 of 5 that support O'care but those numbers are dwindling

what failwilly tried to change his claim to (before deleting it): at one time the majority supported it but now they don't so i was right when i said dwindling

as you can see, these are two different claims. failwilly tried to change the goalposts, but then realized that it only brought more attention to his lie, so he deleted it, because he is a liar.
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
Glad to see you attacking me Buck. I was pretty hard on Cheesus last night and was feeling bad because it felt like I was picking on a half-wit. Now that you are here to defend his honor, there is a whole wit between you two, seems more fair.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Glad to see you attacking me Buck. I was pretty hard on Cheesus last night and was feeling bad because it felt like I was picking on a half-wit. Now that you are here to defend his honor, there is a whole wit between you two, seems more fair.
You werepicking on me last night?

Didnt notice
Probably because I actually have to click "view Post" to see your most recent squeal
 
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