Odorless Electronic Joint

forza223

Member
Oh geeez im gonna hear it for starting up an old thread like this but i really am feeling an urg to keep dragging this on.

So i have been smoking e-cigs for bout 5 years and i have been building my own and creating my own liquid. A mixture (or not) is used of PG (propylene glycol) and VG (vegetable glycerine) in the e-liquid mostly as a filler because if the whole 1ml in the ecig was filled with nicotine you would be on the floor dead in seconds. Also there is flavor, but it is all alcohol based so it has no harm.

the Joye 510 used in the OP holds ~10 drops) gums up the atty in a very short time, requiring the atty to be thoroughly cleaned in order to be able to continue using it. Let's face it, resin is awfully sticky... and attys don't get along with oily or sticky.
Here is some evidence to prove that wrong.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070612161331AA1eoNv

So how could the thc extract build up if the resin you are talking about is from the burning organic matter. All burning organic matter puts out a ton of harmful substances, that is why you can still get cancer from only smoking marijuana no cigarettes. Just cigarettes have way more additives that they put in just to kill us faster. Since there is no acutall like green matter in this expect the little chlorophyll thats going to make the liquid green your not going to be burning any of the stuff that created resin so your not going to gunk up your atty. Pure thc is clear, odorless, and colorless. But there still going to be some stuff thats going to gunk up your atty like the flavoring and just random stuff so just like when you have an ecig you have to clean and eventually replace atomizers.


Also last because this is not what i am 100% sure on but i believe in logic so here goes think about it and see if it makes sense.

I can't see any way at this time to get 4.5 grams worth of pot into a tiny little cartridge without it gumming up the atomizer after one hit. Even at 1 gram per ml of PG/VG (which is a lot more than one little Joye 510 cartridge will hold; an eGo or Riva "mega XXL" cartridge barely holds 1 ml
Ok look yes you would never fit 4.5 grams into a 1ml space, but are you using all the cell tissue and organic material in the liquid? No your removing all of that to just hopefully leave behind the thc and other good stuff. Im guessing there about somewhere like 5%?? of the plant you are using is thc. <NOT THE THC PERCENTAGE> the actual weight of thc in the plant that you can extract. Its going to be about 0.2 grams. That would definitly fit in a cartridge with the PV/VG filler. But in this case it wouldn't be a filler it would be a binder with PG because it is alcohol based which thc is attracted to. So if you do it right, all of your thc (+ other good stuff) will be binded into the PG. Thun just bottle up your stuff and fill your cartys with it.

I am not trying to be an expert on this subject because i have personally not tried it so if something is wrong then it is what it is.

I want to see if anyone is agreeing with my logic so this might actually be something worthwhile to try.

Thanks for Listening:bigjoint::weed:
 

Katatawnic

Well-Known Member
You gave me a Yahoo Answers link about what resin is (as in the byproduct left behind in pipes after smoking herb) with the briefest answer that anyone who smokes pot should already know as your "proof" that my assertion about attys not getting along well with oily or sticky liquids is wrong? Your link had absolutely nothing to do with what was being discussed here. If you had something else in mind with your link, I'd sure appreciate that being cleared up.

When I referred to resin, I did not mean the leftover crud in used pipes. I was referring to the resin that is contained in the plant's resin glands... otherwise known as trichomes. I know how to extract resin from the plant without any green leftover... I use pure kief/hash in my tinctures, not buds or trim. This increases potency by allowing for much more cannabinoids in there since there is (of course) a much higher percentage of THC & CBD, etc., in hash than in buds/trim gram for gram. This also decreases MJ taste & smell, making it very discreet to use anywhere with a PV. There is no plant matter in my PG/VG tinctures. And yes, cannabis resin is extremely sticky.

I said 4.5 grams worth of pot. Since we were discussing extraction of the plant's resin to create a tincture to put into PV cartridges, I didn't think I had to explain that I'm not trying actually to stuff 4.5 grams of pot into a cartridge. :lol:

I've been using PVs for a while, myself. I don't even buy flavored nicotine liquids anymore; I mix my own. So yes, I do know a thing or two about making liquids for my PV... be they nicotine liquids or cannabis liquids.

The fact remains that cannabis resin is indeed very sticky, and it does indeed gum up the atomizers much faster than nicotine liquid does. Meaning one has to clean attys used with MJ tincture much more often than when using nic liquids. I did mention that I clean (and replace) my attys; my assertion was that MJ tincture gums up attys faster than than nic liquids do, making for more atty maintenance work.

There's been some debating in this thread about the use of PG & VG for PV tinctures. You ought to address the whole "to use or not to use" PG/VG, because that has seemed to be the biggest "issue" in this thread. ;)

I'm not claiming to be an expert, either. There's always more to learn, and that's what I'm here for. That said, I have personally tried it, and still make 80/20 PG/VG MJ liquids for my PV. As a matter of fact, that was to be my project for today. :mrgreen:
 

forza223

Member
Alright well i was just putting in my 2cents. I know i will be trying this in the future this subject needs alot more research. I was saying to use or not to use because some people are alleragic to PG and can only use VG while some people like 100% PG for the throaght hit. So theres all the space inbetween for which ever you want to use.
 
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