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moldybologna

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if i told you a strain had a big yield and i got 3 pounds a light but it took me 6 months for the crop would you still think it was a big yield? it is 3 pounds a light though right? that yield sucks cause i could of ran 3 crops in that time and had much more weed. this is the same thing your saying. any strain can yield big if it has enough veg time thats my point. the other point your not getting is those extra lights your using to veg plants could be being used to flower more plants instead. i understand there separate rooms but it doesnt matter thats shit you gotta figure out for yourself to utilize the most flower space and electricity possible to maximize your yield.
This statement isn't exclusively true. It depends on what your comparing it too. A long flowering sativa that takes 6 months may be considered a "heavy yielder" but not compared to a quick flowering 8 week indica cash bud which you could turn quickly.
 

Surfr

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A few more taken last night for you guys... And just so everyone knows, I am in DIRT.

White Fire day 62







 

tree king

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This statement isn't exclusively true. It depends on what your comparing it too. A long flowering sativa that takes 6 months may be considered a "heavy yielder" but not compared to a quick flowering 8 week indica cash bud which you could turn quickly.
of course i was talkin about a 60 day strain.

surf you were talkin about 36 plants so i thought you were talkin hydro. i dont know anyone that runs that many plants in a 4 x 4 in dirt. anyway what i said still stands cause your growth rates are gonna be even slower than hydro. like i said try flowering 36 bubba's with no veg time and see what happens. you wont get anywhere near an oz per plant
 

Surfr

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I know TONS od people who run that many plants in dirt. It's called growing in beds of soil. People on this site need to expand their knowledge A LOT more before making comments. Go check out other sites where the big dawgs hang out. You might see some of these soil beds.. I know people who put 49 plants per 4x4.... And if your trying to grow Bubba in this style GOOD LUCK. That's why you pick strains to fit YOUR STYLE. Your point is still moot.

Here ya go... 3'x3' soil beds from a few runs ago... 25 plants per bed 2 week veg time.

 

tree king

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the more veg time you have to give your strain to yield enough the less i consider the strain a yielder. we just disagree on this its all good
 

silverhazefiend

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the more veg time you have to give your strain to yield enough the less i consider the strain a yielder. we just disagree on this its all good
At first I didn't understand u ..but now I get it ..and yes any og strain is gonna be considered low-medium yielders ..unless they have increased veg time

To make it more clear u should have gave an example of a high yielding strain that doesn't need veg time ..big bud , critical +, etc ..7-9 week flower and will give big yields ..lil to no veg

Also VEG time corraltes directly to yield ..most company give u a estimated yield per m2 ...95 % of those numbers are with 30 days veg from sprouting ..

For higher yielding strains it would say something like only 2 weeks of veg or 12/12 from seed will give big yields ..

Mostly all of the higher potency strains need 30 days from seed ..but they still have lots of high yielding strain that's potent u would have to do research and figure which ones do in ur system ..it's hard to give a estimate on yield with no veg ..most people who do it that way run high numbers for a reason
 

tree king

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At first I didn't understand u ..but now I get it ..and yes any og strain is gonna be considered low-medium yielders ..unless they have increased veg time

To make it more clear u should have gave an example of a high yielding strain that doesn't need veg time ..big bud , critical +, etc ..7-9 week flower and will give big yields ..lil to no veg

Also VEG time corraltes directly to yield ..most company give u a estimated yield per m2 ...95 % of those numbers are with 30 days veg from sprouting ..

For higher yielding strains it would say something like only 2 weeks of veg or 12/12 from seed will give big yields ..

Mostly all of the higher potency strains need 30 days from seed ..but they still have lots of high yielding strain that's potent u would have to do research and figure which ones do in ur system ..it's hard to give a estimate on yield with no veg ..most people who do it that way run high numbers for a reason
exactly thanks silverhaze you totally get what im sayin. sometimes the way i explain things people dont understand. the more veg time needed the less i respect the strain as a yielder.
 

moldybologna

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the more veg time needed the less yield you get.
If your simply stating having little veg time which allows you to obviously turn more plants in a year equals more bud sure your probably right. Are you claiming comparing 1 plant with no veg to the identical plant with 4 weeks veg, the no veg plant is gonna yield more? I think maybe your talking about grow styles more than genetics.
 

tree king

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If your simply stating having little veg time which allows you to obviously turn more plants in a year equals more bud sure your probably right. Are you claiming comparing 1 plant with no veg to the identical plant with 4 weeks veg, the no veg plant is gonna yield more? I think maybe your talking about grow styles more than genetics.
i worded that wrong what i really meant is "the more veg time needed the less i respect the strain as a yielder." ive explained it the best i can maybe silverhaze can explain it in a better way
 

W Dragon

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i worded that wrong what i really meant is "the more veg time needed the less i respect the strain as a yielder." ive explained it the best i can maybe silverhaze can explain it in a better way
What do you consider good sog strains mate? I've been giving some thought to downsizing and running a small perpetual sog after this run, seeds I'm looking at are serious seeds AK47 and mosca's C99 bx, I'm running the exo cheese cut that finishes in 8wks and yields well at any size, I haven't cloned the cut again because I want something different that compares yield wise so am gonna reveg one whilst vegging the seeds, would appreciate any suggestions you may have as I have 4-5wks before putting my order in unless they come into stock before that.
 

tree king

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What do you consider good sog strains mate? I've been giving some thought to downsizing and running a small perpetual sog after this run, seeds I'm looking at are serious seeds AK47 and mosca's C99 bx, I'm running the exo cheese cut that finishes in 8wks and yields well at any size, I haven't cloned the cut again because I want something different that compares yield wise so am gonna reveg one whilst vegging the seeds, would appreciate any suggestions you may have as I have 4-5wks before putting my order in unless they come into stock before that.
the thing is i havent grown a huge amount of strains and the ones i think are good you cant buy anymore. what i would buy if i were you though because i feel confident about them is a chem d strain like star dawg or motorbreath or maybe chemdawg ibl 1.1. i just picked up star dawg last week and im waiting for the motorbreath to be back in stock. whatever you get though make sure it has a good amount of stretch cause thats what you want with no veg time. in order for the plants to yield what you need they need to reach a certain height
 

W Dragon

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the thing is i havent grown a huge amount of strains and the ones i think are good you cant buy anymore. what i would buy if i were you though because i feel confident about them is a chem d strain like star dawg or motorbreath or maybe chemdawg ibl 1.1. i just picked up star dawg last week and im waiting for the motorbreath to be back in stock
Cheers for getting back to me mate, I'll have a look at those strains and give them some thought, I've got a little time before I have to order and need to do some research so I have something new to think over cheers mate.
 

drekoushranada

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So does the Wifi Sog well? I think it's time I actually spend some real dollars on some good genetics and this strain is top of my list.
 

Cinderella99

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So does the Wifi Sog well? I think it's time I actually spend some real dollars on some good genetics and this strain is top of my list.
Nah dood...Scrog with lots of bending/tying maybe. It's lanky like an OG. Those shots that Surfr posted look pretty much like my white dom B pheno....The fire dom phenos are even lankier ime

should add that all phenos I've seen have solid yield despite some being lanky
 

tree king

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Nah dood...Scrog with lots of bending/tying maybe. It's lanky like an OG. Those shots that Surfr posted look pretty much like my white dom B pheno....The fire dom phenos are even lankier ime

should add that all phenos I've seen have solid yield despite some being lanky
thanks that does it for me i wont be buying this strain cause i do sog
 
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