Oil turned grainy

Kanivers

Active Member
So I picked up some BHO from my local dispensary about a month ago. When I first got it it was like a soft jolly rancher. It would pool and settle if left alone. It was amber color and clear. I left it sitting in my kitchen for a month and haven't really touched it. Over time when I would check it it looked like little bubbles were coming to the top. Now a month later it is all crumbly like crystallized honey but you can touch it and work with it. It's a little sticky but doable. What happened? My own homemade oil is exactly the same and I've had it months before I even bought this stuff.
 

Guzias1

Well-Known Member
this happens to alll my batches of oils/taffys left out.

they get dry on outside, sort of turn lighter colors too, then i mush it up, inside is a bit greener, but all looks grainy. sort of sticky too touch. but ya, i dont know whats going on.. heheheeeeeeeeee
 

Kanivers

Active Member
If what you say is true it would follow one variable between my wax and the store. Mine is in a nice glass concentrate jar and the store is in a shitty cheap plastic one. Maybe I have a better seal so it didn't dry out.
 

Guzias1

Well-Known Member
If what you say is true it would follow one variable between my wax and the store. Mine is in a nice glass concentrate jar and the store is in a shitty cheap plastic one. Maybe I have a better seal so it didn't dry out.

you could have also produce a concentrate thats lasting longer as well.. shatter, wax, that you can touch and play with without it sticking, usually just lasts and lasts...

my waxes/shatter/etc never grain up, even after sitting out.. just my sticky goos, and taffy.

anyone know wth is going on?
 

vacpurge

New Member
it basically dried up and waxed up.. just takes longer. the vacuum chamber speeds up the process. all the moisture and whatever else is in it dried out.

I personally figure that if you left it sit out for a year or 2.. it would eventually powderize.

I lost a vial of oil in my truck, it had a threaded cap and was pretty close to air tight. it took 3 or 4 months for me to find it and it was chunky and dried out like you described... waxed up. some of guzias' recent pictures looks just like what were talking about.
 

vacpurge

New Member
you could have also produce a concentrate thats lasting longer as well.. shatter, wax, that you can touch and play with without it sticking, usually just lasts and lasts...

my waxes/shatter/etc never grain up, even after sitting out.. just my sticky goos, and taffy.

anyone know wth is going on?
yeah good question. im sure fadedawg can explain it (hopefully with small words lol!) all we gotta do it sit and wait 8)
 

Fadedawg

Well-Known Member
yeah good question. im sure fadedawg can explain it (hopefully with small words lol!) all we gotta do it sit and wait 8)
Wish Fadedawg had it all figured out, but I don't. Until recently I didn't make wax because I don't like it as well as shatter and the only time that I ended up with wax, was by accident. Most of our oil, that doesn't go into orals, topicals, or suppositories, is vaporized as an Absolute, which appears less prone to self waxing, so we didn't have that many accidents either.

Now that I'm playing with it, it appears to be a hydrate, that forms easier if it is young material with residual moisture or butane in the oil when the vacuum starts, so as to fully inflate the muffin. It works like clockwork if we remove the oil from the Terpenator before the final 5 minute hard vacuum finish, and vacuum a muffin at around -29.5" Hg and 85/100F. It happens less reliably vacuum finishing oil that has most of the butane already vacuumed out of, or that has been throughly dried.
 

Sirdabsalot462

Well-Known Member
The grainy/sandy/cake texture is caused by nucleation points (IMO)

Nucleation is the crystallization of the oleoresin from the introduction of moisture into the matrix.

Wish I had a pic, where I could point to a nucleation point...lol

Basically, it's the cloudy or opaque portion of the concentrate..i.e.
..you gotta slab of shatter, but one little spot is not translucent, but rather opaque..

That is a nucleation point, and the sand/grain will start to grow outwards from that point.

To avoid...get the nucleated portion away from the stable portion.

All of the above is a GUESS at what is occurring when this happens to ALL of use oil makers experience.
 

650baquet

Active Member
The grainy/sandy/cake texture is caused by nucleation points (IMO)

Nucleation is the crystallization of the oleoresin from the introduction of moisture into the matrix.

Wish I had a pic, where I could point to a nucleation point...lol

Basically, it's the cloudy or opaque portion of the concentrate..i.e.
..you gotta slab of shatter, but one little spot is not translucent, but rather opaque..

That is a nucleation point, and the sand/grain will start to grow outwards from that point.

To avoid...get the nucleated portion away from the stable portion.

All of the above is a GUESS at what is occurring when this happens to ALL of use oil makers experience.
I experience that a lot if I don't leave the extract vacuumed long enough to completely wax or I leave my shatter in the vacuum longer. Then over a week from dabbing off it and letting it sit out on the table and it will almost all turn to opaque softer oil. Seems to have no taste difference.
 
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