Oklahoma city Bombing info you did not know.

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NoDrama

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McVeigh drove a truck in front of the Murrah federal building and blew it up right? How did 2 more bombs, even more powerful than the first get INSIDE the building then? It was all confirmed by the FBI , the governor and the bomb squads.

This makes no sense, this does not jive with the official story of a lone bomber. WTF is wrong with this country?
[video=youtube;NWwrEEP8EBk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWwrEEP8EBk[/video]


this has more details and more BS we were all told.

[video=youtube;i5v8v4P1-Qc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5v8v4P1-Qc&feature=related[/video]
 
Silence in here. ND some of that top video must be what I seen back in 95 when this happened. I've always been under the assumtion that there were multiple bombs. Thing is I was like 17 when that happened and didn't pay much attn at all to the news let alone American news. For 15 yrs I kinda avoided argument in casual talk about the subject cause I figured I must have got the story mixed with another or something 10/15 yrs ago. Wow What a feeling.
 
How come JFK was shot from the Grasy noil ? but they caught the shooter lee garvy oswald said he shot JFK with a russian made 91/30 7.62x54 russian sniper rifle. The government cops, fbi cia can write a report an they can say what ever they want to make it sound good. This is America land of the brave home of the free.. are you really presumed innocent ? NO ! Your guilty until the courts find your innocent ! thats how it is !
 
Voice of reason here.

Having dealt with the media on a nearly daily basis for over 15 years, I trust very little of what they say. Media gets it wrong as often as they get it right. Perhaps more often. Remember on 9/11 when there were reports of bombs going off in Washington D.C. and New York? It turned out to be mistakes in reporting but I remember them saying there were "confirmed" reports of car bombs and shit. Fog of war baby! Confusion rules the day whenever large scale disasters and attacks happen. All this being said, I believe there were more conflicting reports and stuff that just didn't make any sense about this particular attack than the 9/11 attacks. I never bought for a second that it was Timothy McVeigh alone or even him and Terry Nichols. My gut told me something wasn't right and I try to pay attention when my gut speaks (gurgle, gurgle).:lol: I have no idea what to believe. I have no idea who did this particular attack but I agree we probably didn't get the whole story and we may have executed the wrong guy. Too late now I suppose. :-|
 
whietiger88101 said:
How come JFK was shot from the Grasy noil ? but they caught the shooter lee garvy oswald said he shot JFK with a russian made 91/30 7.62x54 russian sniper rifle. The government cops, fbi cia can write a report an they can say what ever they want to make it sound good. This is America land of the brave home of the free.. are you really presumed innocent ? NO ! Your guilty until the courts find your innocent ! thats how it is !
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You are fucking full of shit, he did not shoot him with a mosin-nagant, he shot him with a 6.5 carcano........Some people should not speak.
 
I was in Oklahoma City on the day of the bombing and six weeks afterward. I worked the Red Cross kiosks. First in the capacity of watering down law enforcement and later to feed, water, and play with the cadaver dogs, and then to set up feeding stations for the iron workers union. I remember well when they found the additional bombs and evacuated a 16 block radius. I always wondered why it was only known to the people that were there, and was not newsworthy for the rest of the country. When they opened the National Terrorism Museum many years later, I expected there to be more info about this, but there is hardly any mention of it.
 
ya being an okie i try and make it to the museum once a year and they say nothing about the second and third bombs. i was in elementary when it happened. but talks about it with my retired navy grandfather, he said he only heard about the other bombs that evening, once maybe twice. then the days after that he said it was just '' swept under the rug''.
 
NBKA said:
You are fucking full of shit, he did not shoot him with a mosin-nagant, he shot him with a 6.5 carcano........Some people should not speak.
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I'm not sure what whietiger88101 was saying or where he got the russian rifle from but it was initially reported that it was a 7.65 German Mauser and that is what was found in the school book depository. The shots found in Kennedy were from a 6.5 Italian carcano. It was then reported as the carcano, but the mauser was initially reported cuz that was what was found in the depository. Go to 8:00 on the first video and watch the first four or five minutes of the second video for more info relating to this.

[video=youtube;RIOnFpZaDcw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIOnFpZaDcw[/video]


[video=youtube;mDAiC8Bb75M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDAiC8Bb75M&feature=related[/video]
 
Antidisestablishmentarian said:
I completely agree with the fog of war statement, but to say we executed the wrong guy, when he admits to doing it, seems... far fetched. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36633900/
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Please don't misrepresent my statement. I said MAY have executed the wrong guy. I have a penchant for hyperbole and I'm pretty sure he was involved but it just seemed strange to have so much damage caused by one nutjob. We probably will never have the whole story but it's fun to speculate.:bigjoint:
 
NoDrama said:
Was the 1st Trade center bombing and Oklahoma just setting the stage for 911?
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Why are you all trying to convince yourself that everything is a conspiracy? All the evidence is pretty conclusive in all those cases. There is always bad information and false rumors that get spread during these kinds of events. Your proposing some BS local news report and unsubstantiated theories to debunk decade-long FBI investigations, investigative panels and confessions?

Seriously, is there some reason you want to believe this stuff? The truth is bad enough if you ask me; no need to make shit up...
 
abe23 said:
Why are you all trying to convince yourself that everything is a conspiracy? All the evidence is pretty conclusive in all those cases. There is always bad information and false rumors that get spread during these kinds of events. Your proposing some BS local news report and unsubstantiated theories to debunk decade-long FBI investigations, investigative panels and confessions?

Seriously, is there some reason you want to believe this stuff? The truth is bad enough if you ask me; no need to make shit up...
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Umm it was the FBI that confirmed their were 2 other bombs in the building, the Governor of OK also confirmed this as did the bomb squad personnel. Maybe you just don't like it when the facts point to anything other than your television fairy tale world.
 
NoDrama said:
Was the 1st Trade center bombing and Oklahoma just setting the stage for 911?
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What about the USS Cole?
Or what about the stolen Cessna that actually HIT the White House on Sept. 12, 1994? http://tech.mit.edu/V114/N40/crash.40w.html

And for all you die hard kool-aid drinkers...
The sum of 1+9+9+4 = 23. The sum of 2+3 = 5. This accident happened on Sept. 12. The sum of 1+2=3. Add the red numbers 5+3=8. So now add 8 years to 1994 and you have 2002. This accident happened on the 12th of September. Just ONE day after 9/11. Subtract 1 from 2002 and what do you get? 2001- The EXACT year of the World Trade Center attack! You cannot tell me that they didn't see this coming!!!! BASTARDS!!!!!

I see the above as being the type of obsessive approach one would take if they were a true kook trying to turn everything into a conspiracy.
Raising eyebrows to a valid question like "Why was the world not told about the other 2 bombs found in OKC?" Is not. In my opinion, this is a foot in the door of proof positive that there was a cover-up.
 
whiteraven said:
ya being an okie i try and make it to the museum once a year and they say nothing about the second and third bombs. i was in elementary when it happened. but talks about it with my retired navy grandfather, he said he only heard about the other bombs that evening, once maybe twice. then the days after that he said it was just '' swept under the rug''.
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At the museum, there is a workstation where survivors, workers, whoever can write an account of what they were doing when the Murrah Building got bombed. I submitted my story on 3 separate occasions of what I was doing there, and how scary it was to run for my life during those evacuations, what it was like, etc. All three times my submission was deleted, and reading through all the other stories I can also find no mention of it, indicating that the "conspiracy" is ongoing. To this day, there is someone censoring those submissions, editing or deleting completely the accounts of people who were there that day if there is any mention of those other 2 bombs.
 
IrishNig420 said:
I'm not sure what whietiger88101 was saying or where he got the russian rifle from but it was initially reported that it was a 7.65 German Mauser and that is what was found in the school book depository. The shots found in Kennedy were from a 6.5 Italian carcano. It was then reported as the carcano, but the mauser was initially reported cuz that was what was found in the depository. Go to 8:00 on the first video and watch the first four or five minutes of the second video for more info relating to this.




[video=youtube;mDAiC8Bb75M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDAiC8Bb75M&feature=related[/video]
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At :30 in you can see the whole rifle being pulled out, that is a Carcano for sure. First of all they look ALOT alike, but the Carcano has differences, First of all the magazine well is smoothly tapered into the forestock, the Mauser is curved back on itself, then the Carcano has a somewhat delicate front sight post, the Mauser is a heavy duty beefy one, unlike this one in the video. The Carcano also has a groove carved into the fore stock, the Mauser does not. Its a Carcano in the video. Pretty easy mistake to make, especially when the Scope is covering the Bolt. The Mauser is by far the more common weapon, which makes it easier to misidentify the near identical Carcano as a Mauser.


Mauser:
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Carcano:
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