Hello Goldberg. I first heard about thes guys this past December in a HT ad(something I usually take with extreme caution). I was intrigued by some of their genetics and their web site, but could find no reviews. Having procured stock previously at Treating Yourself Expo, I hadn't dealt with ordering in a while. I am not on anyone's sabbatical, I just thought my 2 cents worth might help someone who was in my situation. I am old school myself, and have yet to find the current stuff as good as what I did in the sixties and seventies. As a Vietnam survivor, I can assure you that. Black Wlie was the real deal, minus the goat shit feertilizer. That being said, maybe you know where land race genetics might be obtained. I've tried Doc, Wild Rose,Sensi, Jordan, BC,Greenhouse(never again),and still haven't nailed it. I've had good luck with Flying Dutchmen hybrids and a guy named Cash Crop Ken( can't ever find him). I'm no Luther Burbank, but I like to tinker with genetics looking for the Holy Grail. The best I've had since the seventies was. Nevil's Early Pearl and NL5 x SK1. The current variations of these ain't even close to what they were in 1988. Sorry bout the pix but I live in the Southeast and there and there is still a witch hunt on down here. Peace, bro. Look forward to your reply. Oh yeah and OSB has a twenty five dollar intro pack that's really decent . Try it.