Omicron

How do we pronounce it

  • Om-i-cron

    Votes: 9 47.4%
  • O-micron

    Votes: 7 36.8%
  • Omnicrom, because that's what I heard them say it.

    Votes: 3 15.8%

  • Total voters
    19

printer

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South African researchers say omicron reinfects people at 3 times the rate of other variants
The omicron coronavirus variant appears to carry a higher risk of COVID-19 reinfection than previous strains of the virus, according to a study that has yet to be peer-reviewed.

The study posted to the preprint server medRxiv found the variant is reinfecting people at three times the rate of past strains such as beta and delta, suggesting the variant is “associated with substantial ability to evade immunity from prior infection.”

The research was conducted using data collected in South Africa from nearly 2.8 million people infected with the virus between March 2020 and Nov. 27, 2021. Researchers said 35,670 of those cases were suspected reinfections.

“We do not have information about the vaccination status of individuals in our data set and therefore cannot make any assessment of whether Omicron also evades vaccine-derived immunity,” Juliet Pulliam, co-author of the study and director of the South African Centre for Epidemiological Modelling and Analysis, said in a tweet.

Anne von Gottberg, microbiologist at South Africa’s National Institute for Communicable Diseases, said Thursday she believes vaccines will provide protection against the strain.

“We believe that vaccines will still, however, protect against severe disease, because we’ve seen this decrease in protection using vaccines with the other variants, but vaccines have always held up to prevent severe disease and admission into hospitals and death,” she said.
 

captainmorgan

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Some sobering talk going on among scientists about Omi, it is more infectious and evades immunity, the extent of and by how much isn't known yet. The current vaccines offer protection but they think less effectively, Israel is reporting some positive signs. Sounds like this one is so infectious that it will sweep the globe in 3-6 months. Have to hope that it's less deadly but unless it's very mild it will overwhelm the hospitals. We better hope the vaccines and prior infections offer good protection or this could get really ugly.
 

injinji

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i don't want it to be bad, you just don't know what you're talking about.
every person who gets it is an incubator for variants, that means there ARE going to be variants, do you want to gamble hundreds of thousands of times that the variant is going to be less harmful? when it only takes one bad mutation to kill millions?
Especially folks who are immune compromised. What happens is they can't clear the virus like most people do, so it has time to make changes. There are millions of people in Africa with HIV, which compromises the immune system.
 

injinji

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One trusts the "science" brought to you by Pfizer. The other trusts the "science" brought to us by decades of research and study.
Just curious but do you know how the mutation for evasion likely happens? In ill, compromised, fully jabbed patients. With a long term lingering illness. Not at all likely to happen in unjabbed individuals. . . . . . . . . . .
Africa has a 6% vax rate. I would put my money on the mutation happening in one of the millions of the un-vaxed HIV patients there.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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But we cant read it with out paying for fear mongering. So....
A past coronavirus infection appears to give little immunity to the new Omicron variant rippling across the globe, South African scientists warned on Thursday, potentially tearing away one layer of defense that humanity has won slowly and at immense cost.
Just a week after its existence was revealed to the world, the heavily mutated variant, which scientists fear could be the most contagious one yet, is already by far the dominant form of the virus in South Africa and spreading fast, according to officials there. Top European disease experts said Thursday that it could be the dominant form in Europe within a few months.
By Thursday, Omicron had been detected in 25 countries on six continents, and experts say it will soon be in every populated corner on earth. That could mean that a world already battered by two years of pandemic and — until recently — harboring hopes for recovery is instead headed for another wave of cases.
Scientists have known since early in the pandemic that the immunity gained from a coronavirus infection is not total, and probably not permanent, and that some people are reinfected. Even so, with a huge number of people already infected and recovered — about 260 million worldwide that have been detected, and in reality far more, experts say — whatever protection they had looked like an important layer in the world’s defenses.

The new variant calls that into question.
Scientists in South Africa have reported a sudden, sharp rise in November in coronavirus cases among people in that country who had already been infected, in a study that has not yet been reviewed and published by a scientific journal. The authors noted that there was no such upswing when the Beta and Delta variants emerged.
They did not say how many of those reinfections could be attributed to Omicron, but South Africa’s National Institute for Communicable Diseases reported on Wednesday that when it conducted a genetic analysis on a sampling of coronavirus-positive test results from November, almost three-quarters were the new variant.
“Population-level evidence suggests that the Omicron variant is associated with substantial ability to evade immunity from prior infection,” the authors of the unpublished study wrote.
In an online briefing held by the World Health Organization’s regional office for Africa, South African scientists presented a blunter version of the same conclusion, simply based on the country’s raw numbers: About 40 percent of the population has had the coronavirus and about 30 percent has been at least partially vaccinated (though there is no doubt some overlap), and yet the number of new cases is soaring.

“We believe that previous infection does not provide them protection from infection due to Omicron,” said Anne von Gottberg, a microbiologist at the communicable disease institute.

South Africa has the world’s fastest-growing caseload, though the figures are small compared to those in many other countries. In the first half of November, it was averaging about 260 reported new cases a day. On Tuesday, the figure was over 4,300, the highest in months. It jumped to more than 8,600 on Wednesday, and to more than 11,500 on Thursday.

The Omicron variant has dozens of genetic mutations not seen together before in the virus, and scientists say that the number and type of changes suggest that it is much more transmissible than earlier forms, though solid proof of that is still lacking.

In fact, many crucial questions about the variant remain unanswered: Does prior infection protect against serious illness, if not against infection? Do existing vaccines provide strong immunity to it? Is the illness it causes usually milder, as some early reports have suggested?
It will take weeks for answers to start emerging, but even in their absence, many governments around the world are taking action, imposing new restrictions on travel, particularly from southern Africa, and stepping up vaccination and testing efforts. South Korea announced on Thursday that all travelers arriving in the country must quarantine for 10 days, including fully vaccinated South Koreans, who had been exempted.
On Thursday, President Biden outlined a strategy that includes new family vaccination sites, booster shots for vaccinated adults and widespread availability of at-home virus tests, free to consumers. With Omicron cases in the United States being reported, he introduced a new requirement that any international traveler to the country show a negative test result from a sample taken within a day of departure.

German leaders on Thursday agreed to exclude unvaccinated people, except those who have recently recovered from a coronavirus infection, from much of public life, barring them from bars, restaurants, most stores and other venues. And Olaf Scholz, who will become the new chancellor next week, said he will try to mandate vaccination for all adults. That would make Germany the second country in Europe to do so, after Austria.
The Greek Parliament on Thursday voted to require vaccination for people over 60.
Europe is already suffering through its biggest pandemic wave yet, driven by the Delta variant, previously the most infectious form of the virus. Fewer people are getting seriously ill and dying than a year ago, before vaccines were rolled out, but the surge has been enough to strain health care resources yet again, and has forced several countries to backpedal on their return to normal life.

Hundreds of Omicron cases have been found in Europe already, and the rapid spread has raised fears it will prolong the current wave. The early evidence suggests that Omicron “may have a substantial growth advantage over the Delta” variant, the European Center for Disease Prevention and Control reported on Thursday.

“If this is the case,” it said, “mathematical modeling indicates that the Omicron VOC is expected to cause over half of all” coronavirus infections in the European Union “within the next few months.”

there ya cheap fuck...fear mongering my ass, you just don't wanna cough up 5 bucks to get fair reporting
 

Snoopy808

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If thats the NY times article they have used some of the same quotes and source material as the MSN one I provided a link to. But crafted to a different narrative. And much less useful information.
People pay for it because they like the reinforcement of their point of view. Not because its unbiased reporting.
 

printer

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Email containing covid info from our local paper.

"Thousands of attendees at a New York anime convention are being urged to get a coronavirus test after a man who attended the con in November tested positive for the omicron variant. The infected attendee was visiting from Minnesota; his case was detected after he returned home. New York Gov. Kathy Hochul said there are no confirmed omicron cases among New York residents yet but that she anticipated there would be more cases. The Anime NYC 2021 convention, which ran Nov. 19-21, drew about 50,000 people, according to organizers. Attendees were required to wear masks and show proof of at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. The Minnesota man had been vaccinated and received a booster shot in early November. He has since told officials his symptoms have subsided after being tested Nov. 24."

Second U.S. Omicron Case Linked to New York City Anime Convention
A Minnesota resident who attended the Anime NYC 2021 convention at the Javits Center in November tested positive for the COVID-19 omicron variant, marking the first known case of the variant in both New York City and New York state.

On Thursday, the CDC announced it was investigating a confirmed COVID-19 case caused by the omicron variant after a Minnesota resident who attended the annual anime convention, held this year from Nov. 18-20, had returned to their home state and tested positive. The CDC reports the individual, who has since recovered, developed mild symptoms on Nov. 22 before getting tested on Nov. 24.

A statement from New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio acknowledged that the city is “aware of a case of the Omicron variant” that was identified in Minnesota and has since been associated with the New York City anime conference. He also notes that “we should assume there is community spread of the variant in our city.”

The mayor’s statement confirmed that the conference required masking and complied with the city’s Key2NYC vaccination mandate, which requires event attendees to have received at least one dose of the Pfizer, Moderna or Johnson & Johnson vaccine. His office is working with the state, the CDC and the Javits Center’s event organizers on the case while the city’s test and trace corps is reaching out to conference attendees.

In a tweet, city Health Commissioner Dave Chokshi also encouraged attendees to get tested. “It is likely that this is not an isolated case, meaning that there is ongoing community spread of the omicron variant in NYC,” he said.

But by a Thursday evening press conference, New York Gov. Kathy Hochul announced that there are now five reported COVID-19 cases of the omicron variant in New York City and on Long Island.

The news comes just days after a new advisory was issued in the city on Monday that strongly recommends all residents wear masks in all public indoor settings, regardless of vaccination status. The announcement from New York City health officials was prompted by the anticipation of the new variant in the city.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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