Ontario considers pricing recreational pot at $10 a gram

ttystikk said:
I agree with most of this.
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We have something similar with alcohol and it is expected that the provinces will follow the same approach they use to be applied to rec. Ontario has provincial (or state run for comparison purposes) stores to sell alcohol. Other provinces, such as Alberta, allow private entities to sell but under a strict regulatory framework.

The legalization part is done at the Federal level. It is backwards to how the US is. Right now we have our provinces fighting against legalization but that is all part of their negotiation strategy to get more money in transfer payments.
 
Photon Flinger said:
The voting public is generally fine with legalization with the exception of letting the seedy elements of society being involved in any capacity.
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Have you had a look at the list of former politicians, top cops and senior civil servants controlling the current LP system? These are the same folks that used to throw people in jail for doing exactly what they are doing. Talk about the seedy elements of society - you ever met an honest politician? Spelling skills have absolutely no bearing on winning the LP lottery, but having close connections with the government agencies responsible for granting licenses (and the ability to transfer large amounts of cash in brown paper bags) seems to work. You might be happy with Uncle Bill Blair or the piece of shit Fantino profiting from cannabis, but don't assume the voting public is accepting. The smoking public sure as fuck isn't. The Liberal legalization plan is going to fail unless they bring in 'craft growers' to compete with the warehouse-weed growers. The cannabis market will either be open to all growers or the black market will win, it's that simple.
 
VIANARCHRIS said:
It won't be easy, but it is possible. Two products with which governments have a lot of experience point the way: Alcohol and tobacco are the models for harm reduction.
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did they just say that?
VIANARCHRIS said:
In stark contrast to pot use, Canada has the developed world's lowest rate of youth smoking, according to the OECD.
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...because they're smoking pot...duh...lol...
 
Photon Flinger said:
We have something similar with alcohol and it is expected that the provinces will follow the same approach they use to be applied to rec. Ontario has provincial (or state run for comparison purposes) stores to sell alcohol. Other provinces, such as Alberta, allow private entities to sell but under a strict regulatory framework.

The legalization part is done at the Federal level. It is backwards to how the US is. Right now we have our provinces fighting against legalization but that is all part of their negotiation strategy to get more money in transfer payments.
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One of these things is not like the others
One of these things just doesn't belong
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?

Did you guess which thing was not like the others?
Did you guess which thing just doesn't belong?
If you guessed this one(@Photon Flinger) is not like the others
Then you're absolutely...right!

Another version:

Two of these things belong together

Three of these things are kind of the same
Can you guess which one of these doesn't belong here?
Now it's time to play our game (time to play our game)

Bonus Version

Three of these kids belong together
Three of these kids are kind of the same
But one of these kids is doing his (her) own thing
Now it's time to play our game
It's time to play our game

about your mentality...soo I figured this would help.

:eyesmoke:
 
I think it's very obvious the government is trying their hardest to make sure the black market continues to thrive ... the corrupt criminal government seems determined NOT to interrupt the black market and at this point it must be intentional. they are in cahoots with the gangsters, they must be
 
legalcanada said:
I think it's very obvious the government is trying their hardest to make sure the black market continues to thrive ... the corrupt criminal government seems determined NOT to interrupt the black market and at this point it must be intentional. they are in cahoots with the gangsters, they must be
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nah
just a bunch of greedy mofos
who dont care about you or your health
just your cash

that wont get spent at any GLPshwags shop lmao
 
Photon Flinger said:
Anything that is sold for human consumption is regulated in some way shape or form. The public expects the government to do so.

That is where the problem is. The black market schmucks are complaining about being excluded because of all the rules involved to get legally authorized to produce.
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This assumes that everyone wants to sell nationally. There are plenty of products for consumption where sellers have some degree of autonomy and are not requied to go through a rigorous bureaucratic process.

Farmers markets would be a good example and one could draw comparisons to dispensaries.
 
coppershot said:
This assumes that everyone wants to sell nationally. There are plenty of products for consumption where sellers have some degree of autonomy and are not requied to go through a rigorous bureaucratic process.

Farmers markets would be a good example and one could draw comparisons to dispensaries.
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Even farmers markets keep records so they can trace back to source if there is a problem. The stringency of the requirements is higher the larger the intended population market.

The purposes of regulation is to protect consumers. In order to do that the producer is held accountable.
 
Photon Flinger said:
Even farmers markets keep records so they can trace back to source if there is a problem. The stringency of the requirements is higher the larger the intended population market.

The purposes of regulation is to protect consumers. In order to do that the producer is held accountable.
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why isnt that being done with LARGE PRODUCER SHWAGS then
I guess ya miss the poison part
EH bongsmilie
 
Not disagreeing with you in terms of need for regualtio and policy but often folks at farmers markets include hobby farmers. I am just saying that there are plenty of examples where food hits tables across Canada and does not follow the same process that mass producers are required to adhere to.
 
coppershot said:
Not disagreeing with you in terms of need for regualtio and policy but often folks at farmers markets include hobby farmers. I am just saying that there are plenty of examples where food hits tables across Canada and does not follow the same process that mass producers are required to adhere to.
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We are actually in agreement. I am saying the regulations are less stringent at a local level in the context that even small hobby operations follow some sort of governance that keeps them accountable for their product. Regardless of where you are you still can't sell sour milk.

I am equally skeptical with all my food sources and consider that a survival instinct. If I didn't grow or raise it then I will inquire as much as possible.
 
no need to regulate something that doesn't do any harm

except suck the funds out of the feds hands..
like it will go for ever until they figure out that they forget the market (:

less than a year we get to see all hell break loose :)
 
WHATFG said:
all hell is not going to break loose....other than the illusion of legalization and all the giddy people that will bring out with the novelty of being able to puff, what is going to change?
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you haven't heard yet ... :lol:

Give it until july and watch what happens.... :cool:
This isn't a joke WHATFG ..bongsmilie

yer gonna witness civil disobedience like never before..
and no one will go to jail for it ;)

They've lost here..dont lose track now ;)
 
Photon Flinger said:
Even farmers markets keep records so they can trace back to source if there is a problem. The stringency of the requirements is higher the larger the intended population market.

The purposes of regulation is to protect consumers. In order to do that the producer is held accountable.
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as far as mom n pop ..from what i see..

the problems are arbitrary things like HC saying "you are too close to the road"

even with proper security/odour removal/no problems in five years..

even though other businesses do not have that issue..

in my opinion the further you are from road the more ones security is in danger
 
OLD MOTHER SATIVA said:
as far as mom n pop ..from what i see..

the problems are arbitrary things like HC saying "you are too close to the road"

even with proper security/odour removal/no problems in five years..

even though other businesses do not have that issue..

in my opinion the further you are from road the more ones security is in danger
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theyre TRYING as they will..to over look what rights we have.. :)
 
OLD MOTHER SATIVA said:
as far as mom n pop ..from what i see..

the problems are arbitrary things like HC saying "you are too close to the road"

even with proper security/odour removal/no problems in five years..

even though other businesses do not have that issue..

in my opinion the further you are from road the more ones security is in danger
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My defenses heavily rely upon what mother nature provides. Bears are a pretty good deterrent. Elk and moose are scary to those who know better.

Plus the less urban you are the more options for alternative power generation. A 20-25kw turbine isn't all that expensive and quite common for farmers.
 
^^I can sell sour milk if I want
Photon Flinger said:
Bears are a pretty good deterrent. Elk and moose are scary to those who know better.
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I wonder how HC's gonna feel about his 'wildlife security feature'? lmfao. Bears are a deterrent? Vancouver Island has one of the largest concentrations of black bear and a very healthy cougar population. We also have an abundance of growers who use the forests and mountains as gardens and they aren't deterred in the slightest. Deer eating the plants is the only wildlife worry out here.
 
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