Oooo !!! I am a Bomber Pilot ! 160mg down ..... he he he .....

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NP88

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It is not as good as real, pure mdma. It is better than the crap that dealers try to pass off as mdma in my area. One such concoction was some 2cb, some K, some coke, and possibly some other junk. It was also equal to the best pressed pill that I have ever had, but those were still crap, obviously.

I would say that it is comparable to MDMA. It is not quite as intense of a rush, but has a similar feel. Ive only taken MDAI twice, and I was on acid the 2nd time, and I'm not sure how much I took... I was just dipping my finger in the bag. The first time I took MDAI, I took 150mg, which was comparable to about~120mg of MDMA. I was rolling... but not at that level where I was saying "holy shit!" to myself every few minutes. I'm not certain, but I wouldn't think that MDAI would get you to the point of your eyes rolling in the back of your head, and you feel like you could fall asleep (like MDMA can). 2ce, however, certainly does have that ability, but it also makes you see visuals. And this thread isn't about 2ce ;)

One time, I took about 500mg of ~90% MDMA throughout the night, and took about 50 mg of MDAI when I was crashing. It didn't make me roll. It did make me feel less shitty from the crash, and it kept me up for an extra few hours. My friends who were taking MDAI that night were able to feel about 25mg of my MDMA in the morning. So it certainly is no MDMA... but it is better than nothing!!! And at 1/5th of the price, it is more than just 1/5th of the experience of molly.
 
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Michael Phelps

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Haddaway said:
There's a HUGE difference. You just need to do both enough. Methylone is more of a reuptake inhibitor than a releaser that MDMA is. It's also not psychedelic like MDMA is. MDMA is also much softer and not as stimulating.. Much better.
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Maybe there is a huge difference for someone who eats Mdma on a very regular basis but with someone such as myself who only eats it 1-2 times a year i didnt notice any difference. Both are very laid back, so much so that i can fall asleep peaking on both, both grind my jaw, both make the eyes roll in the back of my head, both give me gnarly tracers, both make your whole body feel just peachy! I stand by what i said, no noticeable difference for me.
 
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Michael Phelps

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Also had some friends try some at a festival. None of them could tell any difference either. RB maybe yours didnt add up to your expectations because you are used to pressed tabs that generally have a concoction of different chems with them. Im not really sure though. My guess would be if you had some molly and some Bk-mdma and you tried the molly, then 6-8 months later you ate the bk-mdma i doubt you would be able to tell to much of a difference. Maybe some, but not HUGE like hadd says..
 
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Michael Phelps

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Haddaway said:
What happened to cause you to sensitize to the effects??
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I think it's just the fact that i used to eat a TON of e.. probably more then the majority of people that post here. Now i rarely eat it, 1-2 times a year with up to almost a 3 year break at one point..
 
mescalinebandit420

mescalinebandit420

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im thinking im gonna really like the methylone then. i havent had any e in at least a year or so. mostly because of avaliability but also most things pressed are far from MDMA so i try to stay away from that shit. and im pretty sure my lady will enjoy it as well being a virgin to psychedlics.
 
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Michael Phelps

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Yeah i hear ya bandit... Pressed tab's are wack these days. One of my buddies is a fiend for Mdma, not like he hella abuses it anymore. But it's by far his favorite psychedelic and he loves everything about it. Luckily he has one of those reagent tests so any pressed tabs i get always come from him where they have been tested prior. He was the first one who introduced me to methylone, he himself said he can barely tell a difference and id bet that he has eaten more mdma then ANYONE on this entire forum...

Im sure you and your lady will have a good ole fuck fest haha.. Seriously though, she is a virgin to psychedelics? What did she say when you ate 2cb at the water park lol?
 
mescalinebandit420

mescalinebandit420

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yea shes never partaken in anything yet..... but she was totally okay with me tripping at Schlitterbahn. shes very understanding about me tripping cause she knows how much i love and care about psychedlics. i want to share my experiences with her so im gonna gradually walk her through the different trips shes interested in so im trying to start mild (salvia,mdma) and work her way up the ladder(lucy,maybe k).
 
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Michael Phelps

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Word that's awesome you got an understanding girl.. Im at the point in my life now where i couldnt date anyone that was in-tolerant with psychedelics. Like you, i just have way to much love and appreciation for them to listen to someone bash them on a constant..


Salvia and mild should not be in the same sentence lol.. I personally think saliva is the most potent hallucinogen on the planet, even more so then Deams... Maybe it was just my experiences with it though lol..


K and lucy are both amazing man.. I read recently that they have been doing studys with K and depression and how it is an immediate mood booster and how it could seriously help people with depression in small doses... Well last night i was feeling kinda down, not about anything in particular, just not really happy. Anyways i was going to smoke some deems at 12:07 AM(my birth moment exactly 23 years ago), i decided not to smoke the deems due to my kinda depressed mood. I decided it was time to put the k+depression thing to the test and wow... All i can say is WOW... Seriously they need to open up a K line for all those that suffer from serious manic depression. I cant tell you how much this would have helped me a couple years ago. Last night i went from a down mood, to bumping 60mg of k, to being so stoked on life and happy. Everything was just B-E-Autiful!!!
 
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mescalinebandit420

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nice phelps. im planning on taking a trip down the rabbithole myself in the next couple hours. i have a friend who has never tried it before and i think im gonna swing by his pad and show him K in all its glory. i cant wait to see the look on his face when he feels her beauty. man is he in for a treat!
 
asdf1

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A signifigant other that can see psychedelics in the same light is a good think. I too am a lucky one... My girlfriend used to not like me smoking weed, now she smokes weed every day and learned about how psychedelics really are, not just for fun and trippin out.
 
Tenner

Tenner

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I feel you Michael, the occasional bump of K is so tempting :D For some time after you feel like you can`t be depressed. It really does something amazing :D
 
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Haddaway

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Michael Phelps said:
Yeah i hear ya bandit... Pressed tab's are wack these days. One of my buddies is a fiend for Mdma, not like he hella abuses it anymore. But it's by far his favorite psychedelic and he loves everything about it. Luckily he has one of those reagent tests so any pressed tabs i get always come from him where they have been tested prior. He was the first one who introduced me to methylone, he himself said he can barely tell a difference and id bet that he has eaten more mdma then ANYONE on this entire forum...

Im sure you and your lady will have a good ole fuck fest haha.. Seriously though, she is a virgin to psychedelics? What did she say when you ate 2cb at the water park lol?
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At low doses they are much more similar, but the more you take of both, the more dissimilar they are. Methylone gets way too stimulating, and the stimulation stays with you WAY longer than the actual roll. When you take large doses of MDMA you actually get kind of sedated, you get more of a lovey dovey feel on MDMA. Methylone is more of a euphoric rush of happiness/happy to be with people. While MDMA is like "I FUCKING LOVE EVERYONE SO MUCH", and you just sit there thinking about how much you love them/appreciate them.

They aren't even comparable in my opinion. Only at lower doses. MDMA is much more euphoric. And as I said, MDMA is more of a releaser, not a reuptake inhibitor like bk-mdma is. This cause more intense euphoric effects in a more empathic sort of way. Redosing on methylone is also not advised as it causes the stimulation to increase considerably without too much of an increase in euphoria. Methylone also does not hit the 5ht2a receptor (the serotonin receptor that makes substances psychedelic), methylone is not psychedelic in any sense, it is a pure entactogen. MDMA is an entactogen with undeniable psychedelic effects that can become vision quests. (try to find any Methylone reports like that!)

If you can't tell the difference between MDMA, and methylone (or barely), you either only have experience with MDMA via rolls (thus you probably haven't done true high doses of MDMA without some sort of adulterant such as amphetamines, plus all the other rolls that contain MDxx compounds. This would cause MDMA to be associated with "good feeling compounds" instead of being associated with "MAGIC" the way people who have PURE molly, that do it ALL the time understand about it.) Or they just haven't done high doses of real MDMA.

It's the only way I could imagine it. Look it up anywhere, what I say is 100% confirmed by everyone else's reports, and is ESPECIALLY proven by the pharmokinetics and pharmacology of the two different compounds.
Methylone is like psuedo-mdma without the great connection with others and the great psychedelic mindset that methylone DOES NOT give you. You actually realize life changing realizations of MDMA, and while methylone can cause some realizations, it is NO WHERE ON PAR with MDMA realizations.
 
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Haddaway

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Can someone get me to convince Full Circle to try Ket? I don't think he realizes that it "feels good" and I think the descriptions of crazy hallucinations scared him from it. I think he would be surprised by how much he likes it! What do you guys think?
 
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Michael Phelps

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Haddaway said:
At low doses they are much more similar, but the more you take of both, the more dissimilar they are. Methylone gets way too stimulating, and the stimulation stays with you WAY longer than the actual roll. When you take large doses of MDMA you actually get kind of sedated, you get more of a lovey dovey feel on MDMA. Methylone is more of a euphoric rush of happiness/happy to be with people. While MDMA is like "I FUCKING LOVE EVERYONE SO MUCH", and you just sit there thinking about how much you love them/appreciate them.

They aren't even comparable in my opinion. Only at lower doses. MDMA is much more euphoric. And as I said, MDMA is more of a releaser, not a reuptake inhibitor like bk-mdma is. This cause more intense euphoric effects in a more empathic sort of way. Redosing on methylone is also not advised as it causes the stimulation to increase considerably without too much of an increase in euphoria. Methylone also does not hit the 5ht2a receptor (the serotonin receptor that makes substances psychedelic), methylone is not psychedelic in any sense, it is a pure entactogen. MDMA is an entactogen with undeniable psychedelic effects that can become vision quests. (try to find any Methylone reports like that!)

If you can't tell the difference between MDMA, and methylone (or barely), you either only have experience with MDMA via rolls (thus you probably haven't done true high doses of MDMA without some sort of adulterant such as amphetamines, plus all the other rolls that contain MDxx compounds. This would cause MDMA to be associated with "good feeling compounds" instead of being associated with "MAGIC" the way people who have PURE molly, that do it ALL the time understand about it.) Or they just haven't done high doses of real MDMA.

It's the only way I could imagine it. Look it up anywhere, what I say is 100% confirmed by everyone else's reports, and is ESPECIALLY proven by the pharmokinetics and pharmacology of the two different compounds.
Methylone is like psuedo-mdma without the great connection with others and the great psychedelic mindset that methylone DOES NOT give you. You actually realize life changing realizations of MDMA, and while methylone can cause some realizations, it is NO WHERE ON PAR with MDMA realizations.
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Man it doesnt matter how many facts, statistics, everything else you tell me. My opinion isnt changed. I already said that yeah people who use both a lot could probably tell the difference. People who rarely do it probably wont. Also like i said i dont enjoy high doses of mdma or methylone these days. Nice and mellow dose's are more my thing.


Lol trust me man, im no fool. Ive eaten my fair share of "real" Mdma To say nobody could ever have a "magic" experience on Methylone is just absurd.. People have magical "vision" quest experiences from loads of different things...
 
`Dave

`Dave

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Haddaway said:
Can someone get me to convince Full Circle to try Ket? I don't think he realizes that it "feels good" and I think the descriptions of crazy hallucinations scared him from it. I think he would be surprised by how much he likes it! What do you guys think?
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lol it could scare him, thus he might not like it, thinking too much about it doesent help!
 
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