Operation: Chronic Momma [1st grow]

Blazed whats up dude? Looks like your girls are hangin in there..

Heres how the cfl thing works heat wise...Compaired to HID or HPS light bulbs they are very cool...pun intended...haha

So every indoor grower has to deal with it..dont be concerned about turning one or two off until you figure it out...they handle low light better than excessive heat...

That said, 82 degrees is not excessive, what are your res temps?..

Keep up with the pH, easy on the nutes and I bet they turn the corner and take off for you....

what up natural!
and yeah i know man. i doubt i could even run a hps in here without temps goin over 90 hahah.
i took off 2 lights yesterday (so i got 4 now) and the temp seems to be better.. but the closet door still has to be open - oh well.

i know 82 isnt that bad, but ive been spending all my time on the forums lookin at topics and posts, etc and i saw a couple mentioning over 82 will slow down growth, want to avoid all stress on them if possible.
but my res temp is 72.

actually my pH has been going drasticly up again.. maybe its the new res. all of yesterday it was goin really high really fast. and this morning it was almost 7!! 6.9 man. i adjusted it maybe 3 times yesterday from 6+ down to like 5.1. and last night i even adjusted it to 5.1... so i dont know how it got to 6.9 in such a short time. this was happening on my old res too.. but it stopped after a couple of days and just floated around 5.5-5.8.. maybe this one will stop soon too.. i even soaked the airstones in ph water for a day or longer

oh yeah i haven't even added any nutes... just fresh water for now. im planning on starting nutes next monday... should i start a little sooner maybe?
i see some really nice roots comin from the bubba, but a little orange hint on them. and i dont really see any of the fire og, but im sure they will come soon enough!! yay this is so fun haha


anyone have a clue why the bubba leaves are kinda curling? especially the smaller ones.. weird.

i know 82 isnt that bad, but ive been spending all my time on the forums lookin at topics and posts, etc and i saw a couple mentioning over 82 will slow down growth, want to avoid all stress on them if possible.
but my res temp is 72.

I don't know if you have found this post yet but this dude is awesome....

https://www.rollitup.org/dwc-bubbleponics/234626-rosemans-diy-bubbleponics-tutorial.html

When in doubt I go back and reread it...Takes awhile but damn this guy knows his shit, backwards and forewards...



oh yeah i haven't even added any nutes... just fresh water for now. im planning on starting nutes next monday... should i start a little sooner maybe?
i see some really nice roots comin from the bubba, but a little orange hint on them. and i dont really see any of the fire og, but im sure they will come soon enough!! yay this is so fun haha

Have a go at 1/4 strength I don't see how that could hurt..and might settle down that pH fluxuation...

yea i actually read that thread when i was lookin for my res.. i gotta read the whole thing soon, looks like a lot of great info.

and for the nutes, ive always wondered why you cant just add in nutes.. you have flush and then add in right? i have to filter 5 gallons of water thro my britta pitcher.. so it takes a while hahah. but yeah ill start workin on that today and get some nutes for them.

some new pictures for the little update today..
but the bubba is just curling in so many directions.. so weird!!

I'm starting my new seedlings on neuts soon maybe tomorrow, I'm going to follow a routine like this, check pH usually its high like 7.0-7.5 then drain a gallon. Now with that gallon I'll drop the pH down lower than I would for the AG because in the new res it tops off at exactly 3 gallons not 3\4 of one like on the AG...crazy...

So, I'll drop my siphoned off gallon to maybe 5.0 or 5.5, I'll add the nutes for 3 gallons at whatever strength you are currently running...

my ladies are at the 5th week of flower and they can take alot..I started when they were seedlings at 2.5 ml of nuets per gallon now I'm at 10.5 ml per gallon..and they are drinking it up!!


Sorry I'll get to the point ' ha ha

So instead of 2.5 ml for one gallon I'll add 7.5 for 3 gallons, add it back to the res with the 2 gallons already in it and bingo, 2.5 ml per gallon like is recommends and then I'll check the pH again hopefully the ph will be Ok if not I'll siphon a gallon again and adjust it lower and pour it back..I'll do this daily ...the pH thing...

in a week or two do the complete res flush....if necessary

Mr.Natural said:

I'm starting my new seedlings on neuts soon maybe tomorrow, I'm going to follow a routine like this, check pH usually its high like 7.0-7.5 then drain a gallon. Now with that gallon I'll drop the pH down lower than I would for the AG because in the new res it tops off at exactly 3 gallons not 3\4 of one like on the AG...crazy...

So, I'll drop my siphoned off gallon to maybe 5.0 or 5.5, I'll add the nutes for 3 gallons at whatever strength you are currently running...

my ladies are at the 5th week of flower and they can take alot..I started when they were seedlings at 2.5 ml of nuets per gallon now I'm at 10.5 ml per gallon..and they are drinking it up!!


Sorry I'll get to the point ' ha ha

So instead of 2.5 ml for one gallon I'll add 7.5 for 3 gallons, add it back to the res with the 2 gallons already in it and bingo, 2.5 ml per gallon like is recommends and then I'll check the pH again hopefully the ph will be Ok if not I'll siphon a gallon again and adjust it lower and pour it back..I'll do this daily ...the pH thing...

in a week or two do the complete res flush....if necessary

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yea yea i get it thats a good idea man
but do you know why its recommended to adjust outside of the res? like whats the reason?

oh and so you gettin a new 3 gallon res? how many are you gonna grow this time? and is it gonna be a new grow spot?

they don't respond well to radical changes , if you just dump in chemicals then mix they might get a lethal dose of what ever..I adjusted mine in the res just once and almost killed them all... just sharing one of my big mistakes...new veg chamber up and running....peace

ah ok cool. i took your advice and siphoned out about a gallon and mixed in 1/4 str nutes.
oh nice i like that new setup.. how many cfls are you planning on using this time? or other lights?

i was checking out this light.. prob next grow
http://www.htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=47994
could you possibly put the ballast part outside of the cab so there would be no heat in the closet?
or would a 250 just be too much in a closet like that regardless of ballast placement?
and would it be safe to plug in that grounded blasast to an extension cord? the extension cord only has 2 slots, no 3rd ground hole (id use an adapter) - but all the way in the other room, where the extension wire is coming from, the base plate is grounded - it has an option for that 3rd hole.

Just a note for the siphoning...

If you're not going to be cleaning your res out regularly, it would probably be a good idea to give it a good scrub before you transition into flowering. Also, always make sure growing medium is clean. Dirty mediums can cause pH fluctuation and deficiencies in the root zone, while nutrient buildup in the res can cause unforeseen problems in the future.

I'm not saying you're going to have these problems, but prevention is better than cure.

Thanks man..I'll stick with the clfs for the veg thing they worked great on the first grow. I'm guessing gonna use no more than 8@27w, if it can handle to heat...

Love that light...I'm not sure but I don't think the ballast gets very warm, could be wrong but I think the bulb carries most of the heat...and it is very very hot ...sucks...but have you seen the buds foxcompany got with his AG?

Gives us neubs hope !!

FoxCompany426 said:

Just a note for the siphoning...

If you're not going to be cleaning your res out regularly, it would probably be a good idea to give it a good scrub before you transition into flowering. Also, always make sure growing medium is clean. Dirty mediums can cause pH fluctuation and deficiencies in the root zone, while nutrient buildup in the res can cause unforeseen problems in the future.

I'm not saying you're going to have these problems, but prevention is better than cure.

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ohh yea ive read some stuff about that build up stuff. thanks
i was just siphoning because i do a res change every monday - and i wanted to keep it like that. plus i had to filter 5 gallons of water.. didnt feel like it at ALL last night hahaha.
i usually just empty the res, fill it up with hot water, swoosh it around a little, dump it out, again with cold water, swoosh, out, then fill a little filtered ph water, swoosh, dump and then set it down where i grow, then fill it up with 5 gallons of filtered ph water. check ph of course
-and for that medium... i got it in rockwool cubes from the Harboside club in california. they should be clean right? hahah
plus i keep the water level low. i dont let the rockwool touch the water.. the mist from the bubbles in the water is enough. when i lift up the lid, a lot of water drips, so it should be good.

Mr.Natural said:

Thanks man..I'll stick with the clfs for the veg thing they worked great on the first grow. I'm guessing gonna use no more than 8@27w, if it can handle to heat...

Love that light...I'm not sure but I don't think the ballast gets very warm, could be wrong but I think the bulb carries most of the heat...and it is very very hot ...sucks...but have you seen the buds foxcompany got with his AG?

Gives us neubs hope !!

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oh yea nice setup. what is the res in? like a box? and u got a nice vent location.. all that heat will be sucked out right from the plants.. really good idea actually

ohh i thought the ballast was the part where it gets hot.. hahah damn!
im keeping my closet door open all day, from around 10-11 in the mornin all the way to 12 or 1 at night. and the temps are around 80. if it gets over 82 i turn on my AC but i try not to do that. and thats with CFLs!!!


damn i just checked out foxs ag grow.. amazin man damn!!


some new pics.. day 14! thats 2 weeks since i got the bubba yay! sunday will be the first week for the fire og.
any idea on that curling in the bubba? anything to be concerned about?

heres an update from day 16, the first week of the og fire. the bubba roots are very nice.. some yellow/brown ones still, but there are a lot of new white healthy roots, so im sure thats fine. i think the bubbas gonna be more of a bush too looks really cool. just a little worried bout that curlin still, but we'll see i guess

also dunno whats wrong with the pics.. but its really intense colors.. sry bout that

Dude, I cant wait to see them bud...

you could probably move the lights a lil further back, get some vertical growth growing, seems like the bubba is just bushing out.

thanks guys, i def moved all 3 of lights away.. thanks for that tip
i got em about 4-6 inches away now, instead of like 1-2.
ill update today later with some day 16 pics.

okay i flushed the res and filled up with fresh 5.7 + 3/4 str nutes
i did notice some weird stuff on the airstones.. they are dark green or something
i washed most of it off though. also some brown on bubba roots, but only some of the roots.. i think those are the roots for the leaves that are drooping/curling really weirdly

something i noticed bout the bubba is that even the new leaves have brown tips.. is that ok?

hey the bubba is really exploding on the roots!!
the og fire has 1 main short little root.. but more to come soon!

only thing im wonderin about is why the bubba has new leaves that have yellow tips and why the roots are a little orange/brown. i got 3/4 str nutes in there and its day 18.

I would just cut back a lil on the nutes.

yea the leaves are gettin green.. i have it at 3/4.. so this monday im gonna do 1/4..
also i flushed it just now and got 4 gallons of 5.6 water in there
heres a little update for day 21 since i got the bubba

The bubba looks good, shes growing nicely, how long has it been since you got the other clone?

thanks man! the og will be 12 days old today
shes kinda slow.. but her roots aren't really developed yet
she didnt even have those roots last night actually.. it was way shorter


so day 23.. i noticed some brown spots on the bubba fan leaves.. the ones drooping down kinda like a claw. ill try to get a pic later tonight