Opiate Setting Tolerance

Hey. I haven't been around for a while. Thought I'd check back more often. Sometimes I miss this place.

But I heard about setting tolerance in terms of heroin use. How after a while of using in the same setting you don't get the desired effects anymore. I'm beginning to think this is happening to me as I only use in one setting (for the past 6 months or so). How long would it take for this phenomenon to occur? I used to get off daily on a bag or two or three or four. Then I drastically cut my use down. And now after wd I use once maybe twice a week and don't get off on two bags.

Either I'm getting ripped off. Even though its the same guy I've always used. Or this weird Phenom is happening.

Thoughts?

almost 200 views and no responses?

lotta dealers give out good product, once they are hooked, the product gets cut....

thats some bullshit. not very good business practice IMO. a normal person would think oh this shit is going downhill time to find someone else.

cuz really how can a person stay hooked on shit that doesnt get you off? you would think a dealer would want someone to keep getting high and PHYSICALLY addicted so they have no choice. (not saying its good) rather than get addicted and then buy filler that does shit to them but fill their nose veins or butts....

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its not pot man. Its a physically addictive drug, you really dont have a choice when feening. hooked is hooked. They know that..

I know that. What I meant was if they start cutting it to the point where you don't get high you'll find someone with better stuff. But I suppose that's a bit off track. I was more curious about whether this has happened to anyone. You know personal experience s. I'm still fairly new and naive to this part of the black market.

The tolerance you build up as your daily usage increases stays with you for a long time (months/years). The reason is this: Your brain changes physically; it grows extra receptors to accommodate the extra opiate. But, even after withdrawal, those receptors remain for a long time before they wither from dis-use. I'm not an H user, but I was an oxy addict. Starting out, I got a great high off of 30 or 60 mg (one or two blues), then it went up to 100-150mg a day until I finally got clean on a Suboxone program. One YEAR after being off of everything (including Suboxone), I got no buzz at all off of 60mg - had to take 100 to catch the buzz, and it still wasn't that sweet high that you get on your first uses. I stay away from opiates altogether now - that handful of sweet highs in the beginning just isn't worth the long and bitter trail that follows. I'm not preaching, just my $.02 worth.

The closest i've ever been to death was cold turkey off heavy opiates.
I'd stay far away from that shit.

You'll be chasing that shit just to function no high at all just to feel normal.
Your body has "flipped" now you have to withdraw.

Damn,you got off that shit and want to take it again?

Tolerance stays with you for a bit. I only take opioids like once every week or two and it takes a lot to get me even a mild buzz. I had some IR morphine last week and I plugged 300mg and I got a mild buzz similar in intensity to what taking like 2 Vicodin did when I was opioid naive. Sadly tolerance to the buzz is much stronger than tolerance to some of the side effects (namely constipation and histamine release).

Welp I'm a recovered heroin addict, and if I could crawl through the monitor and shake you while I'm yelling "WTF ARE YOU DOING" I would.

You really have no idea of the gates of hell you are opening.
You are literally sitting on the fence of either your LIFE....or the SUNSET of your life.
By the time I was ready to clean up I had graduated to sucking the juice out of fentanyl patches to get high.
I had access to 100mq patches, and I would slurp up A PATCH A DAY (enough to kill about ten people who aren't opiate tolerant)
It's about ten times as strong as smack, if not MORE.

I could have overdosed 100,000 times doing that stuff....but I didn't even care.
I just wanted to get high, and get "right" at any cost.


Okay enough preaching....I just wanted you to be reminded and well aware of what you are getting yourself in to.

Before you get yourself REALLY wrapped up in junk you should try kratom.
It's not for everyone, but it WORKS and it's not nearly as bad for you as street powders. And it's LEGAL.

I use kratom everyday in place of opes, I maintain, I get a buzz, and I don't have to chase down the man all the time. I just click the "place order" button on the web, and it's here in 2-3 days max. After looking around, I've found it wholesale....it costs about .50 a gram for the highest grade ground up "leaf" kratom. I get it by the kilo for under $200.......sounds better than a $5-10 a hit of smack, dunnit!!!

To anyone on here who is thinking about trying opiates/opioids:

At least try something legal that won't kill you for cripe's sakes!
No one wants to attend your funeral because you decided to try heroin, and had a slight "miscalculation"
No one wants to bail you out of jail for $500 for a $5 bag of smack.
No one wants to see you decline and give your life away for something that makes you feel good for awhile.

Kratom will let you know what it's all about....SAFELY.
If you LIKE the way it makes you feel, then you know you have to be careful and stay away from the smack!!!
And you can use kratom instead, cop abit of that dope high WITHOUT all the heaviness and sorrow and death and jail....I don't recommend the extracts of kratom because that is kinda UNDOING the whole reason for going "green" in the first place.....if you want to do CHEMICALS then why do kratom at all??? might as well just go buy some dope, coz yer not ready to go green yet!!!

Once again NATURE provides the cure....pure, green, and wonderful.
Poppies once provided the wonderful natural cure....then some douchelord acetylated opium gum, and the hideous monster was released.

You must realize that when kept in their natural state, nature is the BEST doctor of every creature on this earth.
Kratom has never caused an overdose death, as it has a built in "ceiling" that cancels out it's own opioid action above a certain dose.

STAY GREEN and you'll outlive all the pill-poppers and fang-bangers and rock-rockers.
STAY AWAY from the extracts and white powders, and you'll be fine.
THINK ABOUT what you are getting yourself into, and REALIZE that if this IS the buzz you need, then you NEED to find a healthier, LEGAL, less risky way to get what you need.....and something that will let you live to fight another day, even if you "miscalculate"
Something that won't get you thrown in jail if you don't keep her out of sight and you get caught with some...
Something you won't go broke from, even if you want to be a total fiend with it!!!

My love and peaceful intentions to you, I wish you the best of luck...and I hope the suggestions I gave you will put you on a better path.
Heroin is a NOWHERE drug, and not alot of happy endings...
I wish you a "happy ending" or I wouldn't have typed so much ha ha ha ha ha!!!

i've never heard of this setting tolerance which you speak.. i used to use in different locales though, so maybe that has something to do with it..

very interesting idea, would love to hear more about it though for sure..

I know what you mean about setting. I usually only smoke in the same place every day at college and get high for maybe an hour. But when I go home from school and smoke the SAME weed and the SAME amount, I get BLITZED. This just might be an individual thing but it seems like once you get used to using in a certain location it's almost like a tolerance in itself if that makes any sense.

i know i was pretty addicted to the rituals that come along with cooking it up, sucking it up into the spoon, tying off to get a vien, then pulling back on the plunger and watching the blood mix in with my hit..
shit, my heart is now racing just thinking about that shit, and just got goose bumps, lol.. but i never really noticed any thing like the op is talking about though..

Sounds like your tolerence is building. . . Its inevitable (unfortunately) with all the goodies. . . If sometimes its better I would think it was just not cut as much. . . My biggest indulgence is opiates, and even after being off shit for over year it didn't take long to get right back up there, and the euphoria is rare as hell. . . . Bastards! Lol!

My condolences, sad to loose you to this shit.

It kills me to see folks abusing heavy opiates but im not going to preach,instead i will explain,whats happening when the same dose no longer brings a feeling of euphoria you've hit the ceiling,once a long term doseage has become familiar to your body you cant just increase doseage by a few mg's or by a few bags,once high dose levels become the norm in order to reach a euphoria stage it requires a 50% increase in doseage,in some cases it takes 2 to 3 times the dose,most casual users will not experience the ceiling effect but once it happens a user can go years without opiates & upon using again not be able to reach euphoria without taking larger doses,the body becomes accpstmed to an amount & that amount becomes a "maintainance dose".

Due to my spinal & nerve damage conditions ive used high dose opiates every day of my life for well over 20 years,i was in an explosion where i recieved 3rd degree burns over 12% of my body,my spine was also crushed from the impact trama caused by the explosion throwing me 30 feet,ive had over a dozen surgerys with the latest being a few months back to repair scar tissue on my spinal cord & on the dural sack,all this has left my entire lower body with severe neuropathy.

I started out taking MS Contin back before oxycontin were on the market,i started taking the morphine sulfate at 20 mg doses twice daily,within a year or 2 i needed to takes the 20 mg sulfates every 2 hours to control the same pain,by the time oxycontin was on the market i was taking 120 mg MS Contin 6 to 8 times a day to control the same pain levels.

I switched to Oxycontin & durring the same time period i had a radical surgery where they severed select nerves to aleviate the pain,the surgery was a success bet left one leg completely numb & ice cold,this is when neuropathy started to take hold,over the years my daily doseages reached levels that were lethal to herion addicts,at its worst i was wearing 75 mg fentynal patches,eating 80 mg oxycontin every 2 hours along with 30 mg roxycontin every 4 hours,even with those doseages i would need injections of dilaudid at the pain clinic several times a month,my tollerance ( ceiling ) was so high the only time i would feel euphoria was after using my daily dose & getting a dilaudid injection or drinking a fentynal patch.

Since that point my doseages have went way down , due to advances in surgical techniques they were able to repair damaged nerves allowi.g pain levels to come down to treatable levels,right now my daily maintainance dose is 3 80 mg oxycontin,3 10 mg methadone & 3 100 mg nyucntha,i get severe migranes from all the opiates & to treat the head aches i use Stadol NS which is a nasal spray pain killer containing Butoproponal Tartanate,this med is very strong with each nasal spray used is equal to a 25 mg demerol injection,thankfully i dont get the migranes too often.

My daily dose has been down from my previous max levels for several years now & still if i double up on all my meds i cant reach a euphoric state,once the brains opiod receptors grow accostomed to a level of opiates the receptors remain awake & waiting for those amounts for a life time for most.

It seems odd that somebody who's runnin multiple bags of boy isnt aware of how opiates work within the brain but i guess it happens,if your gonna fuk around with the boy,oxy,roxy,dilaudid,demerol,stadol ect at the very least educate yourselves how the shit works .

Its much easier than most think to get strung out,weather your eating oxys,snorting roxys or even smoking the shit its no different than slamming the shit with a needle,only difference is mg needed to get a rush,unless you have a serious medical need dont fuk with opiates because every time you do a bump the chances increase you'll end up behind a doughnut shop on yer knees suckin off whinos for your next bump.