opinions please anyone welcome
- Thread starter ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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cranker
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If religion had an age requirement that would be church vs. state, first of all, not gonna happen. Second off most religions have customs for younger people growing up. Third of all religion provides a moral compass for a lot of people which is a really good thing coming up through tough teen years. And forth, you'd have to get a license to be an atheist if that happened.
ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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i could be a parent who has strict religious beliefs that anyone who dosent follow that same religion should be beheaded and got rid of .
Why is it ok for that person to pass that belief on to an inocent child of theres ? surely there should be laws stopping this ?
Lets face it , we could bring a child up from birth believing anything we like . i could take a new born child away from main stream society and teach it that anyonme with brown hair is a demon and must be killed , and if i drummed this into that childs head every day for 18 years , theres no way you could convince that person anything else is true .
and this is the exact same thing happening with religion .
Why is it ok for that person to pass that belief on to an inocent child of theres ? surely there should be laws stopping this ?
Lets face it , we could bring a child up from birth believing anything we like . i could take a new born child away from main stream society and teach it that anyonme with brown hair is a demon and must be killed , and if i drummed this into that childs head every day for 18 years , theres no way you could convince that person anything else is true .
and this is the exact same thing happening with religion .
Heisenberg
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We can not punish people for how they feel. We can punish them for their actions, in some cases their inaction, but not for what they believe in their mind. I subscribe to the idea that people are allowed to express what they think short of using violence or inciting oppression. I am not comfortable with any law that restricts that expression. If the belief is that some people deserve to be beheaded, we can punish the practice of that belief because it harms others, but not the expression of it.
Again, you conflate normal religious practice with fundamental grooming and brainwashing. Do you stand for this when religion does it to atheism? How many times have we heard Hitler was an atheist? It is simply not valid to say that teaching a child to kill is the "exact same thing" as exposing a child to religious beliefs. I have a hard time believing that you do not see this, thus my assumption of a bias. If you are going to protest teaching religion to children, find a valid reason that rings true to those who hear your message. How about the fact that belief in a deity does not reflect an evidential approach to reality, and that an evidence based approach to the truth is responsible for everything important we know about the universe.
Carne Seca
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It's an invalid question. Government cannot interfere with Religion. That's why we have the whole separation of church and state clause.
Dislexicmidget2021
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it will all come down to the upbringing of the child and his or her surroundings during developement.So an age restriction would be a pointless cause if the child chooses religion at an early age even without the guidance of parents or other influence, you would end up with a child breaking the restrictions only to be legally punished by such mandates from their early on life choice if there was such a clause put into effect.So basically a counterproductive measure when you look at it logically.
Midace1.2
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My personal opinion. No. Because that would become just another Deadline or "Exciting Date" in a child's future. Much like getting a driver's license, being allowed to see R rated movies alone, becoming a legal adult, and finally becoming old enough to drink. If we were to place this "Okay, NOW you can go" type restriction on choosing a religion, we would also be restricting and condoning any kind of spiritual development early on, just as we do underage drinking. Furthermore, it would tremendously magnify the separation of society, by having "Religious Choosing Parties" where a child wouldn't be expected to 'let their parents down', so to speak, and would then begin a lifelong journey of only seeing the differences he/she has compared to others.
Religion is different for every single person....it goes hand in hand with one's spirituality and should develop unrestricted or externally influenced over one's lifetime. (which sadly is not the case, usually)
Religion is different for every single person....it goes hand in hand with one's spirituality and should develop unrestricted or externally influenced over one's lifetime. (which sadly is not the case, usually)
Lankster187
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speaking of life without a choice... The town i grew up in had only 3 schools, an elementary, a middle and a highschool. They were all operated by a catholic school board, therefore being catholic schools. It was up until just this year that parents banded together to take legal action. Basically if you lived in our town, you had to go to a catholic school OR have your parents drive you 20 minutes to the nearest city for a public education. There were no busses and no option for parents who couldnt drive their kids 2 ways every day. I think its fucked that Alberta education thought this wasnt an issue and ignored the public for so many years.