Orgaincide Plant Doctor

Hybridway

Hybridway

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Hello fellow led growers. Wanted to ask you guys too as there is some serious Brain power around here & some w/ all kinds of experience.
Was wondering if anyone has seen negative effects on their flowers from using Plant Doctor?
I use it in veg & it does work well against PM. Although, my bud came out crappy.
Prior to using this product my grows were always good. Real good. Last run was my first time using this prior to flower & once in veg. My bud wasn't that great. Lacked smell, luster, & bang.
Can anyone share their experience using this product who's had nice grows prior?
Thanks! Just trying get to the bottom of this before I lose my mind & ambition to grow.

http://www.yourplantdoctor.com/plant-doctor-systemic
 
OneHitDone

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Yodaweed said:
The best way to prevent PM is to fix the environment that is growing the PM, until you do that, all these sprays and drenches are just a band aid fix.
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This thread is not about environment but since your on point bringing it up, what are your recommended conditions for preventing PM growth?
 
CobKits

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low humidity, warm temps, and good airflow.

not sure if leaf pH would be considered environment but thats how "green cure" prevents PM, by keeping the leaf surface out of the pH range where pm thrives.
 
Yodaweed

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OneHitDone said:
This thread is not about environment but since your on point bringing it up, what are your recommended conditions for preventing PM growth?
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As much air flow as your plants can handle and you can afford and not too much moisture (get a dehumidifier if you need one)
 
Hybridway

Hybridway

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The flower environment is fine. Veg too pretty much. It's the surrounding area that harbors a spore here n there no matter how much cleaning I do.
I don't really get PM, but had it once last year @ the other spot. Once every few months I found it on a leaf here & have been looking to make sure it never happens again. That's why I looked for a safe systemic curative & preventative. Eagle 20 wasn't safe IMO. Since I did, I've had 2 grows that didn't go as planned & I feel it's from the shit I used. First time was a eagle 20 (:spew:, second was Plant Dr.
@CobKits thanks for the links. I've been reading & it's all coming together.
It is the Plant Doctor.
Like you said, not on big plants going into flower. Hit the babies if at all.
What I want to know, is why this info isn't public or common knowledge to most growers? Like, don't sell me this shit if it's gonna fuck my bud up. We go to the grow store w/ hopes of a lil guidance if needed & the products to be safe for our girls.
Anyways, got allot more reading to do on the topic.
Thanks for the help & am interested to hear someone else's experienc w/ this product if there are any? Maybe people know not to n it's just stupid ass me.
 
CobKits

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if all else fails go nuclear take your garden down to just a few clones and dip them in E20 and grow them out. will give you ample time to clean the heck out of our entire area.

Hybridway said:
What I want to know, is why this info isn't public or common knowledge to most growers? Like, don't sell me this shit if it's gonna fuck my bud up. We go to the grow store w/ hopes of a lil guidance if needed & the products to be safe for our girls.
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that ic mag thread was from 2010

and of course growstores care more about their bucks than your plants
 
Hybridway

Hybridway

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CobKits said:
if all else fails go nuclear take your garden down to just a few clones and dip them in E20 and grow them out. will give you ample time to clean the heck out of our entire area.



that ic mag thread was from 2010

and of course growstores care more about their bucks than your plants
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Haven't gotten to the Ic mag thread yet.
Things can't really get much cleaner & I don't have active pm. The surrounding area didn't have enough air movement or exchange but it's good now.
My whole veg hasn't been treated w/ anything & has no sighns of it. Not really a problem For me. Just after having it once last year @ week 5 of flower on a big crop, I've been a lil shook & am trying to make sure I prevent it before it starts as it's always possible. If I see even one tiny spot of it, I start feeling like it will be a break out & can't get it out of my head.
I started this thread to find out about this product & others like it (using similiar ingredients) & to bring awareness to others.
The bud wasn't that bad, just didn't have the appeal I'm used to growing. And in this day n age, that means everything.
 
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Hybridway

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Evil-Mobo said:
I have been showing you this for ages just buy it already lol........ :hump:

http://growthefficiency.com/product/method-1-pps-16oz/
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I will finally look into. Thanks bro.
I have topical temporary preventatives but they seam to only last about 30 days if PM is active in a plant or somewhere in the area.
For those that have PM, air exchange & cleanliness is key. But sometimes it's just not enough depending on the surrounding area. Like those growing in basements on hot summer days for instance.
 
OneHitDone

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Hybridway said:
I will finally look into. Thanks bro.
I have topical temporary preventatives but they seam to only last about 30 days if PM is active in a plant or somewhere in the area.
For those that have PM, air exchange & cleanliness is key. But sometimes it's just not enough depending on the surrounding area. Like those growing in basements on hot summer days for instance.
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So the Plant Dr is a no go at any stage? What was the ill effect on the flowers?
Curious if bumping temps up a bit would help keep conditions unfavorable for the pm to even get started?
 
Hybridway

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OneHitDone said:
So the Plant Dr is a no go at any stage? What was the ill effect on the flowers?
Curious if bumping temps up a bit would help keep conditions unfavorable for the pm to even get started?
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I think it might work well if used following the same rules as Eagle & w/o the poisons.
Like treating them as freshly rooted clones & never again.
The bud just wasn't what I'm used to growing. Lacked bag appeal.
Supposedly my trim/popcorn didn't yield well in oil either. But then again that could be the guy that makes it skimming. Dunno for sure. When I give a stranger 3#'s of popcorn right before rents due, I'd say there's a good chance he got a few-16 zips off before running it.
Gets me really stoned smoking it & it's clean. Just lacked the bangin smell & frost I'm used to. Some strains Looked a bit fluffy n leafy as well once dried.
Just wasn't a good run & I can't see any other reasons for it, doing everything the way I always have.
Anything systemic as a curative or prevetative is just suspect cuz it stays within the plant.
Temps got a lil high last run here n there, but I doubt that's it.
Not getting PM, just was trying to prevent it one step further.
 
OneHitDone

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Hybridway said:
I think it might work well if used following the same rules as Eagle & w/o the poisons.
Like treating them as freshly rooted clones & never again.
The bud just wasn't what I'm used to growing. Lacked bag appeal.
Supposedly my trim/popcorn didn't yield well in oil either. But then again that could be the guy that makes it skimming. Dunno for sure. When I give a stranger 3#'s of popcorn right before rents due, I'd say there's a good chance he got a few-16 zips off before running it.
Gets me really stoned smoking it & it's clean. Just lacked the bangin smell & frost I'm used to. Some strains Looked a bit fluffy n leafy as well once dried.
Just wasn't a good run & I can't see any other reasons for it, doing everything the way I always have.
Anything systemic as a curative or prevetative is just suspect cuz it stays within the plant.
Temps got a lil high last run here n there, but I doubt that's it.
Not getting PM, just was trying to prevent it one step further.
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Didn't you also just try a new nute line?
 
CobKits

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Speaking of nutes one of the links above had a discussion of relative uptake of ammoniacal vs nitrate nitrogen
 
Hybridway

Hybridway

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OneHitDone said:
Didn't you also just try a new nute line?
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The last 2 grows here in the new room were the same nutes I've used from the get & had good results w/ my LEDs & HPS, prior to the new room.
On the H&G line now w/ The Guano Comp. BudSwell & around week 3 I'll start the Soul Synthetics BigSwell too. That combo has been working well for a large scale grower friend of mine.
I'll tell ya what though, I used the Magic Green foliar for the first time the other day on the flowering girls & it seamed to have helped allot w/ the Flo & Kings. I'll give it a whirl again next week.
In the article Cobby posted above, it describes a neg effect from using the ingredients in Plant Dr. On grass, that was very similiar to that showing on the Flo. Like a Phosphorous deficiency due to the plant being sprayed w/ Mono & Di-potassium.
There's actually a few good points related in that article but still haven't finished reading it. Been busy & the damage is already done.
The plants are flowering nicely though @ day 12 or 13. It's the finished product I'm worried about.
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Speaking of nutes one of the links above had a discussion of relative uptake of ammoniacal vs nitrate nitrogen
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Yeah, I'm working on it. Been tied up. I recently bought some good N from Microbe Life instead of using the N boost that H&G has.
The Magic Green is N w/ microbial stuff I think based on its appearance. Shit seems to work well.
 
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