Organic Growing: An Introductory Guide

bassman999

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Utilize the meat in the leaves. Yes they regenerate and they are not partial either way but they don't require a lot as they store a lot in their leavea
Ill see if there re any for sale this time of year.
I think When I grew one last time I was new to growing. Im sure its like anything and Ill know when it wants water etc...
 

Strocat

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so you're telling me fox farm ocean forest along with general organics GO Box is a shit idea? Cause thats exactly what im using on my next plant run.


Maybe this summer when i can actually cook some soil outside i'd try supersoil...
 

bassman999

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so you're telling me fox farm ocean forest along with general organics GO Box is a shit idea? Cause thats exactly what im using on my next plant run.


Maybe this summer when i can actually cook some soil outside i'd try supersoil...
Im sure you will do well with that, and when you are ready to add more the plants will likely be even happier.
 

Rasta Roy

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so you're telling me fox farm ocean forest along with general organics GO Box is a shit idea? Cause thats exactly what im using on my next plant run.


Maybe this summer when i can actually cook some soil outside i'd try supersoil...
Pooping while still having pants on is a shit idea!

Growing with bottled nutes is just growing with bottled nutes. In my opinion, it's more expensive, more time consuming, and produces inferior bud. But a good strain will still be a good strain. It's not like your stuff will turn out bunk cause you used synthetic ferts.

But don't bother with super soil!!! That's what this guide is about... Focusing on composts and readily available organic plant nutrition...Not putting a bunch of ammonia gas into the air by "cooking" soil.
 
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greasemonkeymann

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I'm still an amateur on comfrey use but @greasemonkeymann probably has a good answer for your question.

I wear the mask...I just always absent mindedly touch my face or eye while I'm making it or after when the residue is on my shirt it'll somehow get on me lol. Totally worth it though!
For a spray bottle (2 cups?) I was thinking of taking about an inch of aloe (leaf and meat), smaller leaf or even 1/2 a leaf of fresh comfrey, toss those in the blender/food processor with a 1/4 tsp of activated lab (or so) + water. Blend the shit out of it and spray immediately. Think the comfrey would add anything being fresh and not composted yet or is that a waste adding?
Good to hear confirmation on the pepper spray from other people, lol on the eyes, but not so much when it happens. I told someone other day to goggle and mask up before spraying ;)
personally i'd go with a straight topdress, the amount of nutrients that the plant can actually uptake via foliar is reaaaaally minimal
comfrey is super super fast at dissolving, especially if you mix it with a lil worm castings or fresh compost, what I do is scrape away the top layer of soil (usually mostly aeration anyways)
then I match the topsoil with equal parts compost or castings, then shred (smaller the better) then mix and cover
in my experience it'll be nearly gone completely in about ten days or less.

But if you mince it all up like that, i'd speculate that'd it'd be gone fairly rapidly

I'm not a big user of foliar sprays, mostly because i'm in a humid rainforest and it's not a really a good idea
BUT I do like me a good fresh aloe and silica spray
but only in the summers
both of those are damn effective as simple teas too
in fact each and every plant I have gets two "doses" of a silica, aloe and fresh coconut water teas during flowering
it's the only tea I ever do really
 
i cant get aloe anywhere close right now, so have ordered some 200xx aloe powder. i was under impressions this is as good as fresh or damn close anyways. Was i wrong?
 

Vnsmkr

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personally i'd go with a straight topdress, the amount of nutrients that the plant can actually uptake via foliar is reaaaaally minimal
comfrey is super super fast at dissolving, especially if you mix it with a lil worm castings or fresh compost, what I do is scrape away the top layer of soil (usually mostly aeration anyways)
then I match the topsoil with equal parts compost or castings, then shred (smaller the better) then mix and cover
in my experience it'll be nearly gone completely in about ten days or less.

But if you mince it all up like that, i'd speculate that'd it'd be gone fairly rapidly

I'm not a big user of foliar sprays, mostly because i'm in a humid rainforest and it's not a really a good idea
BUT I do like me a good fresh aloe and silica spray
but only in the summers
both of those are damn effective as simple teas too
in fact each and every plant I have gets two "doses" of a silica, aloe and fresh coconut water teas during flowering
it's the only tea I ever do really
Yeah noticed a few bugs and wanted to give them a spray down mainly for that reason, but I find they will respond well to a foliar once in a while. I ended up blended up 1 garlic small garlic clove, 1 inch of aloe leaf, 1/2 tsp LAB, 1/2 of a comfrey leaf without large veins, and 2 cups of water. It clogged the sprayer right up lol, so I basically gave them a bath in it, all the seedlings. They have responded well. Yeah from now on will just do soil drenches with them together. I like your silica, aloe, coconut water regime (I don't know where I can find any silica here, but aloe & coconut water are staples).
 

DonBrennon

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what is LAB?
Lactic Acid Bacteria or Lactobacillus serum, a homemade 'version' of EM1 Effective micro-organisms. Made and used by people using 'Natural Farming' technique's to speed up composting, make bokashi bran or introduce friendly bacteria to your soil and plants(oh......nearly forgot, they give it to livestock too as a probiotic). It's the same bacteria that's in most pro-biotic pills etc
 

greasemonkeymann

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Yeah noticed a few bugs and wanted to give them a spray down mainly for that reason, but I find they will respond well to a foliar once in a while. I ended up blended up 1 garlic small garlic clove, 1 inch of aloe leaf, 1/2 tsp LAB, 1/2 of a comfrey leaf without large veins, and 2 cups of water. It clogged the sprayer right up lol, so I basically gave them a bath in it, all the seedlings. They have responded well. Yeah from now on will just do soil drenches with them together. I like your silica, aloe, coconut water regime (I don't know where I can find any silica here, but aloe & coconut water are staples).
yea, the majority of bugs hate anything sprayed on them, and belive it or not, most anything that has a residue when it dries can kill or sloooow down almost all bugs, especially soft-bodied ones.
I've used a comfrey and dandelion ferment to combat both PM and spider mites. (like anything the mites laugh at it over a week or so, but they do slow down)
I can't remember where you're at, but you could probably amazon some protekt

side note, best thing hands down for mites (and I may not-so-proudly say that I have possibly THE most experience with spider mites on the friggin planet)
is predator mites.
expensive, but a magical remedy.
Plus the thought of the regular mites being systematically hunted down and torn apart, and eaten alive in a horrible violent death?
Well...
makes me a happy warm tingly smiley-feel in my pants
 
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Fastslappy

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side note, best thing hands down for mites (and I may not-so-proudly say that I have possibly THE most experience with spider mites on the friggin planet)
is predator mites.
been meaning to ask , where do u get yer mites from , I was using aribico outta AZ but them dumb fucks forgot 2 back to back shipments of lacewings & then got got mad at me for complaining @ his family member who did customer service , his other family member took the orders ,
fucking had bought beni bugs all summer from them & had set-up shipments to cover myself in the last week of August before the holiday weekend , u guessed it the worst time to not have protection & a long weekend where no one will ship
let alone answer the phone :wall:


they drop ship their mites outta SoCal when i got them from them awhile ago ,
but I wanna find a CA dealer that drop ships from that same company in Oxnard Ca
I lost my contact from the 1st time I got the Oxnard bugs , those bitches worked
i was keeping them in check with LB & lace wings , but I had a trifecta of issues the furnace failed ,missed shipments ,unusual temps swings for late Aug & I lost a Azure Haze to mites they seemed to like only her This is my greenhouse summer grow i'm talking about
but I do wanna have the pred mites on speed dial for my indoor
 

greasemonkeymann

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been meaning to ask , where do u get yer mites from , I was using aribico outta AZ but them dumb fucks forgot 2 back to back shipments of lacewings & then got got mad at me for complaining @ his family member who did customer service , his other family member took the orders ,
fucking had bought beni bugs all summer from them & had set-up shipments to cover myself in the last week of August before the holiday weekend , u guessed it the worst time to not have protection & a long weekend where no one will ship
let alone answer the phone :wall:


they drop ship their mites outta SoCal when i got them from them awhile ago ,
but I wanna find a CA dealer that drop ships from that same company in Oxnard Ca
I lost my contact from the 1st time I got the Oxnard bugs , those bitches worked
i was keeping them in check with LB & lace wings , but I had a trifecta of issues the furnace failed ,missed shipments ,unusual temps swings for late Aug & I lost a Azure Haze to mites they seemed to like only her This is my greenhouse summer grow i'm talking about
but I do wanna have the pred mites on speed dial for my indoor
oh hell yea man, let me dig up his info, he's a good guy
expensive shipping, but ya gotta have LIVE mites in order for them to work
haha
anyways
it's 951-852-6063
tell him Jonny sent you
his name is Andrew
he is down south in socal
he normally does the mites for massive strawberry farms, and he knows his stuff
 

Fastslappy

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still gonna rock LB & lacewings but when the mites 1st appear switch then
but I've now fixed my heat/cooling sooo keeping the temps & humidity stable is again easy peasy
will slows any breakouts from blowing up the whole room
u ever sulfur gas the room with a burner ? between crops of course
 
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