Organic Supersoil Octopot Question

First I'll describe my grow

Dutch Passion Blueberry
Kalishnikov AK Skunk
Gorilla Grow Tent Shorty (4x2x4'11/5'7, Kind K3 L600 LED (320 actual watts), 4in CanFan for exhaust, Phresh Carbon Filter and Cover. All for about 1200.

I already have some Supersoil cooking. Espoma Peat and Perlite, Fox Farm Ocean Forest, EWC, Azomite, Epsom Salt, Garden Lime, and Kelp/Alfala/Blood/Fishbone/Crab/Oyster/Neem meal all from DownToEarth.

I plan on using Supersoil under Roots Organics potting soil once the plants are in 1 gal smart pots. Then all Supersoil in a 6 gal Octopot. My question is how do apply additional nutes to the Hybrid grow? I know GRealgrowers Recharge (which I'll be using)shouldn't be left in the res, but that top watering isn't advised for the Octopot also. I'd like to water in with Recharge and afew NofGods products, and am using GrowMore Fish and Hygiea Hydration with water as a foliar spray. Just want to know, what's the best way to get some outside amendments in the Octopot. And any feedback on the setup is appreciated also

One of my first questions is, why have you made the decision to grow in that sort of a soil composition if you don't know how to water/feed with it?
Assuming your a newer grower, as you've posted in the newbie section.
You should probably have started with something just a touch more simple, im sorry that I can't answer the question your asking but im sure somebody will.
But really that's a lot to remember and a lot of research done to create.
Personally I would found a soil mix and just spent the money on the nutrients/supplements, I mean you mention FoxFarmOceanForest which I believe sell a solid brand of nutrients and soil that comes with a feed chart you could have done that start to finish?

The Octopot? Supersoil? Or both. As stand alones the watering for the Octopot is straight forward. As is the Supersoil. I guess just when mixing the two is where the ambiguity comes in.

And honestly just being ambitious lol. All of our goals I think (at some point) is to grow a big healthy plant. And like many new growers in this internet age, I think we gather a bunch of info and think we can pick out the 'best' path to getting there, completely omitting the trial and error needed to gain confidence and experience growing. I'm using Supersoil because the idea of having all of my nutes readily available, organic and just having to water, I like. Very natural. The Octopot because of the size capable, and ease of just watering when the res gets low I also like.

I've already spent the money (around $200) on building the Supersoil so I'd like to continue on with that. And it's a lot to get together but in the end a pretty easy setup to maintain. Just add water. It's just those few extra nutes I'm having an issue finding a way to get in.

I also haven't started this grow yet, I guess I should have mentioned. This is all planning in my head. Everything's already ready to start and the Octopot doesn't even come into the equation until the plants big enough for its flowering pot. I'm just forward thinking, knowing I'll have the issue when that time comes.

Nah you are completely right mate, I have done that throughout my current grow aswell.
However just by having all the nutrients ''readily available'' in your soil does not mean that your plant will be able to ''uptake'' all of these nutrients inside your soil.
N P K elements are best absorbed at a PH of around 5.5-6.5 HOWEVER the other elements whether calcium, magnesium, or otherwise may be better suited to a PH of 5 or 7.
You are definitely on the right track to achieving a good organic mix that's for sure, and don't let me dishearten you because I have NO IDEA about the best soil compositions.
But personally I would have just made a soil + perlite + peat moss mix or something and added your nutrients VIA a part A+B+C system.
Very interested in seeing how this ends up though, kudos for the balls to jump straight into something like this.

Theres a chart for some of the nutrients your plant needs and the PH that they are absorbed in.

Also the choice is your whether you want to visit this link, don't feel that im forcing you to view a dirty link lol.
However this is a little guide I found with a search online on how to deal with Organic supersoils, maybe inside there will lie your answers?


http://www.hightimes.com/read/subcools-super-soil-step-step

Ahh this chart is crucial. Thanks

And I've literally looked at that high times link today when I was making my soil, ha. I looked at a few recipes before deciding to pull the trigger on the things I bought. appreciate you taking the time to read and respond

No worries, good to see somebody else flicking through articles to find the methods that stand out to them.
I may be inexperienced as a grower, but to me its all of these things that make the end result THAT much more worth it.
Sorry i couldn't help further but i will be around snooping on how this turns out and ofcourse the progress when the time is right.
goodluck friend

sonnymarlo said:

Ahh this chart is crucial. Thanks

And I've literally looked at that high times link today when I was making my soil, ha. I looked at a few recipes before deciding to pull the trigger on the things I bought. appreciate you taking the time to read and respond

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Hey I have been looking into doing the same thing with my octopot. How did it turn out for you? I have read those articles and I'm just wondering if I should be watering with regular water or if i should be mixing in some liquid nutrients or compost teas. Do you have a grow journal here?

Hopefully with the octopot you are not top watering ..... it close in operation to a Hempy and water farm without the drain to waste. I run GH @5.8 as with most hydro setups .
And hydroguard to keep roots healthy every time I add water or Nutes. You can later mod it with a bubble Stone or bottom area drain ( which I might do ) . 500 - 650 ppm seems for veg then up to 800-1000 max for flower ( 950 is where I stop ).

Not sure about running super soil thru it ... as you might as well use a closed container for soil with it. I load a lighter peat base mix for the sole reason of having roots fan out and SEEK the bottom Rez. PH 5.8 allows some drift .

For me it pretty obvious when it first hits bottom. Growth gets fast.

Budzbuddha said:

Hopefully with the octopot you are not top watering ..... it close in operation to a Hempy and water farm without the drain to waste. I run GH @5.8 as with most hydro setups .
And hydroguard to keep roots healthy every time I add water or Nutes. You can later mod it with a bubble Stone or bottom area drain ( which I might do ) . 500 - 650 ppm seems for veg then up to 800-1000 max for flower ( 950 is where I stop ).

Not sure about running super soil thru it ... as you might as well use a closed container for soil with it. I load a lighter peat base mix for the sole reason of having roots fan out and SEEK the bottom Rez. PH 5.8 allows some drift .

For me it pretty obvious when it first hits bottom. Growth gets fast.

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Thanks for that. The instructions for the pot warn against using supersoils but I didn't want to worry about overfeeding or underfeeding my plants. It says it could work if the mixture is still 40% perlite but I haven't seen anyone who tried it successfully. Most of the growers I see using octopots are running the peat/perlite mix. Do you use organic nutrients or synthetic nutrients?

GH Maxibloom ( works well from veg THRU bloom )( powder ) and with Hydroguard.

Megacrop should work to.

thetrunkofmyslab said:

Thanks for that. The instructions for the pot warn against using supersoils but I didn't want to worry about overfeeding or underfeeding my plants. It says it could work if the mixture is still 40% perlite but I haven't seen anyone who tried it successfully. Most of the growers I see using octopots are running the peat/perlite mix. Do you use organic nutrients or synthetic nutrients?

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Can't really comment on the Octopots, not familiar with them.

But if you've gone to the length of cooking a soil, i'd stick to organic nutrients and teas. Possibly just teas, depending on how rich the soil is.
It would be a waste of your money, effort and time, dumping synthetic nutrients into a fertile soil imvho.
You may as well be using promix instead.

While i'd be wary about bottom feeding (if thats what the Octopots do) there's a grow journal here, i was browsing the other day, where the grower was quite effectively using a sip system for his plants in soil.
If i can find it again, i'll link it for you. It might be helpful.
It's either in the organics, or indoor section.

Best of luck.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/no-till-probiotics-sip-experiment-journal.968009/

Thanks you guys have been very helpful.