Outdoor AUTO Grow. Auto Assassin, Sup. Cali Haze, La Diva, White Moscow

WolfieLee

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The Story so far...I tried to germ the first attempts of these four strains in a Greenhouse, when the Weather was "Bat-shit Crazy" warm around here, but the greenhouse got too hot, I'm afraid...90 PLUS degrees F during the day, at times, and the beans never germmed, just BAKED! It was the warmest on record for over 100 years around here in the Midwest (near 80 F Hi temp for almost a week).

So, I used a little four-chamber seedling disposable plastic planter. It was cooler, again, by then (about the 21st of March), so I moved them inside in an un-heated upstairs room, in the East-facing window (was House-sitting for the Folks...Florida Snow-Bunnies that they are). I placed a flat cardboard square on top of an infra-red muscle therapy heat light to give a good constant warm temp to the moist potting soil. All of them but the AutoAssassin were germmed on the 23 of March, yet, not even quite out of the soil, at that point. The Assassin just a day or two later, not sure, 'cause they were all proud little seedlings next I saw them around the 27th.

For a few days I brought them to a downstairs heated environment in a large picture window, and supplemented the light with around 65-80 Watts of CFL (four varried bulbs) for around 5 hours a day, and only the lights in an open, un-heated, dark room rest of the day/nights. Then I moved them to a trusted friends water cellar (on Fri March 30th) with only the CFL's until, well tomorrow or Wednesday. Lights were off at night until a week ago, when I had him switch them off only 3-4 hours a day after he got up.

I transplanted them almost two weeks ago, as follows. Super Cali Haze (femmed) into a 5 Gallon Smart Pot with 2/3 good dirt mixed with 1/3 Roots Organic Growing mix. I did the same with the rest, but I used 2 gallon size Smart Pots for the shorter growing cycles. I mixed the Aurora Innovations Roots Organic mix down because I was unsure about the plants being over-fed...? Does anyone know if I could have used it straight? I tried to post about it before the fact and got no responses to any of my questions. That thread is now gone (for lack of activity, I presume). My goal is as "maintainance-free" as possible, once outdoors.

Will use Dried blood, my own urine, and a sweaty, stinky ripped up T-Shirt...all to be scattered around the scouted growing areas (swampy areas, POSSIBLY UP in dead scub trees) anything I can do to keep the critters away who would dig up the wonderful smelling potting mix...But the Super Cali haze will be attended by the trusted Friend on his property...he has done 3 -4 successful Guerrilla grows there in the past, and also has a clone of some sort or another he just received not long ago to take care of. I'll split the yield with him on the Cali, and make sure he gets at least an eighth each of the others, if the yield will give me at least 2 dried quarters each strain, to myself, for his help.

All but the White Moscow are feminized, and I'm actually kinda hoping to get some pollen instead of bud out of that one anyway, so, MAYBE, I can pollinate and have seeds from the ONLY bean left of the White Moscow. If they are both males, I will have to order 3 more or so. Two days after I ordered, Herbies had the feminized kind BACK in stock...just my luck! LOL

They are all looking pretty well, considering the somewhat stressful circumstances of their short little lives, so far. It looks like the Auto Assassin may have had issue with the watering situation or the light it was closest to (the flat kind, not the helical kind, with more of a silver-ish quality to the light)...? I changed the lighting situation around a bit and made sure to water them more plentifully, even though they were still moist from the transplanting a week earlier.

Here are the pictures from last Tuesday, April 10th, 2 Wks, 3 Days old; a week after transplanting:



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Any Ideas about the Auto Assassin? How about the Soil Mix...will it be too much or not enough nutes for the remainder of the life cycles (approx. to June 1st through the 7th, if the info given is correct, on the regular autos)? July 1 to the 20th, for the Super Cali Haze, if on schedule per info given. How about the progress of them? Should they be further along at that time frame of the pics, or have they been slowed down because of the way they were "rasised", so far? Any input greatly appreciated...

PEACE
 

nodnarb7

Well-Known Member
The Story so far...I tried to germ the first attempts of these four strains in a Greenhouse, when the Weather was "Bat-shit Crazy" warm around here, but the greenhouse got too hot, I'm afraid...90 PLUS degrees F during the day, at times, and the beans never germmed, just BAKED! It was the warmest on record for over 100 years around here in the Midwest (near 80 F Hi temp for almost a week). So, I used a little four-chamber seedling disposable plastic planter. It was cooler, again, by then (about the 21st of March), so I moved them inside in an un-heated upstairs window (was House-sitting for the Folks...Florida Snow-Bunnies that they are). I placed a flat cardboard square on top of an infra-red muscle therapy heat light to give a good constant warm temp to the moist potting soil. All of them but the AutoAssassin were germmed on the 23 of March, yet, not even quite out of the soil, at that point. The Assassin just a day or two later, not sure, 'cause they were all proud little seedlings next I saw them around the 27th. For about a week after that I brought them to a downstairs heated environment in a large picture window, and supplemented the light with around 65-80 Watts of CFL (four varried bulbs) for around 5 hours a day, and only the lights in an open, un-heated, dark room rest of the day/nights. Then I moved them to a trusted friends water cellar (on Fri March 30th) with only the CFL's until, well tomorrow or Wednesday. Lights were off at night until a week ago, when I had him switch them off only 3-4 hours a day after he got up. I transplanted them almost two weeks ago, as follows. Super Cali Haze (femmed) into a 5 Gallon Smart Pot with 2/3 good dirt mixed with 1/3 Roots Organic Growing mix. I did the same with the rest, but I used 2 gallon size Smart Pots for the shorter growing cycles. I mixed the Aurora Innovations Roots Organic mix down because I was unsure about the plants being over-fed...? Does anyone know if I could have used it straight? I tried to post about it before the fact and got no responses to any of my questions. That thread is now gone (for lack of activity, I presume). My goal is as "maintainance-free" as possible, once outdoors. Will use Dried blood, my own urine, and a sweaty, stinky ripped up T-Shirt...all to be scattered around the scouted growing areas (swampy areas, POSSIBLY UP in dead scub trees) anything I can do to keep the critters away who would dig up the wonderful smelling potting mix...But the Super Cali haze will be attended by the trusted Friend on his property...he has done 3 -4 successful Guerrilla grows there in the past, and also has a clone of some sort or another he just received not long ago to take care of. I'll split the yield with him on the Cali, and make sure he gets at least an eighth each of the others, if the yield will give me at least 2 dried quarters each strain, to myself, for his help. All but the White Moscow are feminized, and I'm actually kinda hoping to get some pollen instead of bud out of that one any way, so MAYBE I can pollinate and have seeds from the ONLY bean left of the White Moscow. If they are both males, I will have to order 3 more or so. Two days after I ordered, Herbies had the feminized kind BACK in stock...just my luck! LOL They are all looking pretty well, considering the somewhat stressful circumstances of their short little lives, so far. It looks like the Auto Assassin may have had issue with the watering situation or the light it was closest to (the flat kind, not the helical kind, with more of a silver-ish quality to the light) I changed the lighting situation around a bit and made sure to water them more plentifully, even though they were still moist from the transplanting a week earlier. Here are the pictures from last Tuesday, April 10th, 2 Wks, 3 Days old; a week after transplanting:


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Subbed, good luck with the grow, and might I suggest bigger text and indenting your new paragraphs? Reading that block of bible text was very frustrating. Stay Frosty! :clap:
 

WolfieLee

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Right, will do, just had a hard time editing it, cause the photo's ended up in the middle of the text, and WEIRD things were happening when I tried to fix that... am on the paragraphing...

Wow, OK, see, this is what I was Saying...the edit tool is just WEIRD! I indented every paragraph by five spaces (twice, now...lol), and it did not come through...WT...F?

Heck with it, I'll just put spaces...Well, I think that does look much better...thanks.
 

WolfieLee

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They will be going outside for sure tomorrow, and I will post new pics up either tomorrow by 1:30 pm (Central), or Thursday morning, depends how long it takes to get them out and get my behind back home.
 

goten

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Im in for the ride

I have some auto assassins outdoors also and some auto ak47`s
 

WolfieLee

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Cool, guys, do stick around. Any input on the posted questions, here? As stated new pics within 48 hours...
 

WolfieLee

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Here we go with the update. Looks like the White Moscow is starting to show PreFlowers, not real sure on that, but AM sure it is already Frosting up! Yum! Auto Assassin and La Diva ARE definitely showing their pre-flowers. Didn't get enough close up pics that turned out of the Super Cali Haze to confirm any pre-flowers, and I could not really tell by looking. I will try to get better pics today to go by.

Well, I guess I should have called this "Indoor / Outdoor AUTO Grow", to be more accurate...It is still just too darn cold around here to risk putting them outdoors yet...shoot there was frost on the ground when I left to get things done...so one more week before that happens. Picked the best pics / edits out for ya, can zip and put 'em ALL up if anyone wants, just say so. WON'T be using that camera again...too many junk pictures...auto-focus seems off, and the lens gets foggy too easy.

Showing a deficiency, I believe...although pics don't really show it, the central part of the leaves are a touch yellower than the extremities. I know you will all cringe...but I'm just gonna put some Scott's or Miracle Grow sticks in the pots with the plants. I guess I could have used the roots organic without mixing it down, after all.

Any ideas on why the Auto Assassin is looking so sheepish. PLEASE...any suggestions? I'm getting very concerned over the lack of improvement. Poor little girl needs to perk up. She is the one I look forward to the most...

Well, Here ya go. I'm gonna take the better camera today when I "Feed" them the nute sticks, and will post a few better pics, if any really jump out and say "HI"!

The pics from 4/18/12 (3 weeks, 5 days old):


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WolfieLee

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Update pics from 4-27-12 and 5-2-12 (after a Day and a half in the sun - my buddy said they Doubled in size). The LACK of adequate lighting is VERY evident on the older pictures, and I am very pleased with the recovery they have shown in such a short time.

I had used a weak (1 tsp. for a 2-liter bottle) MG Blossom Booster mix to feed them a week before the older pics, here. They showed a burned leaf here and there, from the lights, I think...they got too close at one point. There was a bug or two munching on them, also, but not at an "infestation" level. There was also some spottiness on 4-27, from the feeding, but still looked a bit better than before the feeding.

They were still showing some spottiness on the second, but they were looking so much STRONGER (the main stalks were REALLY beefy comparatively), I used almost the rest of the 2 Liter bottle to feed them before taking them out into the swamp. They are secure, off the ground and in FULL sunlight from early-mid morning to late afternoon. I am sure the photosynthesis will make full use of the feeding without causing any adverse affects, like when they only had some mixed CFL's to live off of...and JUST barely, I believe, now that I see how well they are bouncing back.

Further updates will be spotty, at best...but I will have pre-hartvest and post-trimming pics up when I can.


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nodnarb7

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Update pics from 4-27-12 and 5-2-12 (after a Day and a half in the sun - my buddy said they Doubled in size). The LACK of adequate lighting is VERY evident on the older pictures, and I a very pleased with the recovery they have shown in such a short time.

I had used a weak (1 tsp. for a 2-liter bottle) MG Blossom Booster mix to feed them a week before the older pics, here. They showed a burned leaf here and there, from the lights, I think...they got too close at one point. There was a bug or two munching on them, also, but not at an "infestation" level. There was also some spottiness on 4-27, from the feeding, but still looked a bit better than before the feeding.

They were still showing some spottiness on the second, but they were looking so much STRONGER (the main stalks were REALLY beefy comparatively), I used almost the rest of the 2 Liter bottle to feed them before taking them out into the swamp. They are secure, off the ground and in FULL sunlight from early-mid morning to late afternoon. I am sure the photosynthesis will make full use of the feeding without causing any adverse affects, like when they only had some mixed CFL's to live off of...and JUST barely, I believe, now that I see how well they are bouncing back.

Further updates will be spotty, at best...but I will have pre-hartvest and post-trimming pics up when I can.


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Nice Pics man, glad to also see that you have the ability to grow outside! Subbed and also excited to see the auto assassin! :)

-STAY FROSTY
 

nodnarb7

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Update pics from 4-27-12 and 5-2-12 (after a Day and a half in the sun - my buddy said they Doubled in size). The LACK of adequate lighting is VERY evident on the older pictures, and I a very pleased with the recovery they have shown in such a short time.

I had used a weak (1 tsp. for a 2-liter bottle) MG Blossom Booster mix to feed them a week before the older pics, here. They showed a burned leaf here and there, from the lights, I think...they got too close at one point. There was a bug or two munching on them, also, but not at an "infestation" level. There was also some spottiness on 4-27, from the feeding, but still looked a bit better than before the feeding.

They were still showing some spottiness on the second, but they were looking so much STRONGER (the main stalks were REALLY beefy comparatively), I used almost the rest of the 2 Liter bottle to feed them before taking them out into the swamp. They are secure, off the ground and in FULL sunlight from early-mid morning to late afternoon. I am sure the photosynthesis will make full use of the feeding without causing any adverse affects, like when they only had some mixed CFL's to live off of...and JUST barely, I believe, now that I see how well they are bouncing back.

Further updates will be spotty, at best...but I will have pre-hartvest and post-trimming pics up when I can.
Nice Pics man, glad to also see that you have the ability to grow outside! Subbed and also excited to see the auto assassin! :)

-STAY FROSTY
 

WolfieLee

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Well, I was in kind of a hurry and did not notice that the two newest Super Cali Haze pictures did not get uploaded and posted properly. Also wanted to show the two I can after I put them out. Whatever they may look like...they ARE secure..I shook the daylights outta the little scrub trees to be SURE they were gonna stay put. I used my own blood (thanks to all the thickets), sweat and spittle directly applied to the branches right underneath of the Smart Pots; in hopes that the Human scents would not diminish too much because of rain. I also grabbed the main trunks with a VERY sweat soaked hand a couple times each, as well...and even pissed on the trunk and ground where the Auto Assassin is before I left the swamp.

The scrub trees are completely dead, so will offer no foliage competition for the sunlight. The camera battery died, so no further away shot of the Auto Assassin, nor ANY shot of the White Moscow. As stated earlier...the Longer Life-Cycle Super Cali Haze will be maintained by my trusted friend who has had "guerrilla growing" sucess; (100-120 Days, says the seed company - as well as 2 Meter height and 4 to 9 OZ. yield, they also say...can't WAIT!!). She has remained smaller throughout the whole process, and that is why...nearly twice the life-cycle. We will split the yield. He will also be germing my only regular (photo-period) seed - a Barney's Farm Femminized LSD VERY soon. I'll try to log that one in it's proper place.

I will be trying to get out to them soon to make small fishing line entanglements around the girls, with the strips of sweaty T-shirt to blow in the wind for further critter security / determent. Will take the camera with, too.

Thanks for stopping by, guys. Will keep you all posted on all the results.

Peace, Go Slow...

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WolfieLee

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Nice Pics man, glad to also see that you have the ability to grow outside! Subbed and also excited to see the auto assassin! :)

-STAY FROSTY
Thanks, Nodnarb! You think You are glad to see her!?!?? LOL. It is great to see the come-back. And let's not jump the gun...I'm not a pessimist, really, but, the outdoor harvest has YET to take place. Oh, yeah, the weather (FINALY!) broke. DUHH-UH!!! LOL. But, yeah, it's nice to know a VERY secluded swamp to throw a few bushes into, now and again, as well...
 

Dameon

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Looks like you are on track Wolf! I have considered throwing one outside just to see the outcome. Good work man. Stay Crunchy! Crunch*
 

WolfieLee

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U stay Crunchy, too there, Dameon. I really don't know how to, but will give it a shot...LOL. Thanks for stopping by, as well!

Peace, Go Slow...
 

Chummerbum

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hey buddy thanks for the visitor message. glad i could help. im sub'd up so ill be here if you need me lol. to give rep go to the post of the person you want to give rep to and there will be a star button under their name next to where it says "journal this post". just click that and the rest is up to you. good luck and happy growing!
 

professor greenfist

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got some auto assasins on the way whens the best time to put the autos outside also anyone know how long shipping from attitude to northeast should take
 

Chummerbum

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got some auto assasins on the way whens the best time to put the autos outside also anyone know how long shipping from attitude to northeast should take
im in NY and it takes roughly 10 days. you can put autos outside now through like august. although you will get better results if you wait until the days are longer
 
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