Outdoor nutes/ nutes cycle

Shark Week

Shark Week

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Ok I have been looking around all the forums and I can’t really find exactly what I am looking for so here are my questions. I am growing just a few bagseeds that I have left over before I really get my plants going for next year. A big thing that I have noticed is plants need food, so with that being said when growing outdoors what are the best nutes to use? At what stage in the plant do I use them? And how often should I use them?

Also ive read that early fertilizing and foliar feeding increase the chance of producing fem plants by 40%. Any truth to this? And if so what do you guys use?

And I guess my last question will be this, are there any special mixes of potting soil and what not that you all like to use for the medium? And if so what is the correct way to mix it?

Thanks in advance for any help
 
GrizzlyAdams

GrizzlyAdams

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Asking for outdoor growers methods is tricky. Its sort of asking someone who grows flowers for state competitions for their secrets. Outdoor growing is 30% method, 70% brute force, if you're going to do outdoor prepare for hell on earth when you're putting in patches.

I'm not going to divulge my growmix because. . .well, its mine! Here's something to get you started though
.3 pro-mix or soiless soil blend.
.3 food/yard compost
.15 perlite
.15 worm castings
.1 vermiculite, peat moss, or perlite depending on your growing conditions.

Toss in 1/2 to 1 cup of dolomite lime per cubic foot of blend.
 
Pureblood89

Pureblood89

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you can use vegetable food which usually has a higher nitrogen content which is better for leaf and stem developement and can be used up until the plant begins to flower, example 10-5-5 would be suitable for vegging. alot of growers use tomato plant food since a tomato plant grows similar to that of cannabis. for flowering u need to ease up on the nitrogen unless u want to to continue veg developement. Organic ferts are nice, less of a chance of burning the plants and the product. Higher N for vegging, Higher P for flower, K should be kept at a balanced level throughout the growth and developement, Nute defs and burns are easy to spot if you know what you are looking for. As for soil most people prefer fox farm's soil, you can make your own, generic potting soil with peet moss, perlite, worm castings and guano or manure would be a nice medium for growing cannabis. You want the soil rich but not too rich, not too heavy, not too light and moisture retention is key, little bits are bark are used in most store bought soil for that.
 
Shark Week

Shark Week

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Ok well sense I am just going to let my plants this year grow on their own with some extra water if I feel like walking down to my grow site. Next year when I start to play around with different soil mixes and nutes, should I start with nutes all ready in my medium for when I go outside (mainly N). Or should I wait a couple weeks for my gals to settle and then either add nutes from a water spray or add them to the top soil and just water it so it will all wash down? Any help if you guys could clarify this or whatever seems to work best for you.
Again thanks
 
GrizzlyAdams

GrizzlyAdams

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Pureblood89 said:
As for soil most people prefer fox farm's soil, you can make your own, generic potting soil with peet moss, perlite, worm castings and guano or manure would be a nice medium for growing cannabis.
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Most noobs prefer fox farms soil. All your post did was repeat bits and pieces of faqs dude, plus it was confusing. Wtf man? Growing outdoors with any fox farms brand would require you to have so much money you'd be a trust fund baby and having your butler plant them for you.

Listen to me shark week. PEAT moss is pretty acidic, and manure compost brings heavy threats from worms with it unless you heat treat it properly. Leaving them in full sun on a hot day will usually do it, I'd stick with compost over garden manure unless you're sure its sterilized.

If you're looking for some budget shit for your bagseeds, I'd mix what I listed above 60/40 with the native soil then buy some flora nova. Its broad spectrum ferts, doesn't require any mixing, and its cheap which is always a plus.

That whole "increasing the chance of females" is a load of horse shit btw. The plants genetics are already decided inside the seed. Its a boy or a girl before it hits the dirt. If you think I might be wrong, why the hell are seedbanks saying they have feminized seeds? Either I'm right, or they're con artists and get really really REALLY lucky.
 
GrizzlyAdams

GrizzlyAdams

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Lime is a pH stabilizer, if you do 1 cup of lime per cubic foot of soil you'll be able to use heavier fertilizers.
 
Shark Week

Shark Week

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haha ok thanks Griz,

to many people with different prefrences I was starting to get them confused with each other
 
Pureblood89

Pureblood89

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GrizzlyAdams said:
Most noobs prefer fox farms soil. All your post did was repeat bits and pieces of faqs dude, plus it was confusing. Wtf man? Growing outdoors with any fox farms brand would require you to have so much money you'd be a trust fund baby and having your butler plant them for you.

Listen to me shark week. PEAT moss is pretty acidic, and manure compost brings heavy threats from worms with it unless you heat treat it properly. Leaving them in full sun on a hot day will usually do it, I'd stick with compost over garden manure unless you're sure its sterilized.

If you're looking for some budget shit for your bagseeds, I'd mix what I listed above 60/40 with the native soil then buy some flora nova. Its broad spectrum ferts, doesn't require any mixing, and its cheap which is always a plus.

That whole "increasing the chance of females" is a load of horse shit btw. The plants genetics are already decided inside the seed. Its a boy or a girl before it hits the dirt. If you think I might be wrong, why the hell are seedbanks saying they have feminized seeds? Either I'm right, or they're con artists and get really really REALLY lucky.
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#1 i didn't suggest he used fox farm soil for an outdoor grow? wtf are you talking about? I just suggested that most growers mix that soil with their natural soil especially for a guerilla grow.

#2 volcanic peet moss is slightly acidic but cannibis thrives in a slightly acidic enviornment, 6.2-6-8. a small amout is very healthy for its developement and it is very light that makes it easier for root growth.

#3 manure brings heavy threat of worms? so the last 7 gernerations of pot growers are wrong growing with manure?
 
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