Outdoor plant problems

Amateur-Grower

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My outdoor plants seem to continue yellowing with burnt leaves. I don’t think it’s nutrient burn, but I could be wrong. I water 2 gallons at a time due to the high heat and 15 gallon pots. Some times not at all depending if it rains. PPM is usually around 1020 and pH 6.5. I also believe they are tilting sideways due to the high winds. I don’t see any signs of flowering not sure what time of the year they start showing signs. Any advice would be appreciated :)
 

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Cpappa27

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A little more info please. What are you feeding it and how much and how of often are you watering? What is the soil composed of? What are these strains? How old are they from seed and how long have they been in that 15 gallon pot?
 

Amateur-Grower

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A little more info please. What are you feeding it and how much and how of often are you watering? What is the soil composed of? What are these strains? How old are they from seed and how long have they been in that 15 gallon pot?
I am using Jack's 321. Without the Epsom Salt. 4g Part A and 2.5g Part B, also 2.5ml Silica Blast per gallon. After that's all mixed if my PPM is below 1000 I add more Part B till it's over. I water once a day a few hours before sundown. The soil is Fox Farm Coco with Perlite added to it. The strain is from Ace Seeds - Killer A5 Haze. They were clones and repotted from a 1 gallon pot to the 15.
 

Treesomewanted77

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I am using Jack's 321. Without the Epsom Salt. 4g Part A and 2.5g Part B, also 2.5ml Silica Blast per gallon. After that's all mixed if my PPM is below 1000 I add more Part B till it's over. I water once a day a few hours before sundown. The soil is Fox Farm Coco with Perlite added to it. The strain is from Ace Seeds - Killer A5 Haze. They were clones and repotted from a 1 gallon pot to the 15.
It’s best to water in the morning will help prevent PM. Not that is your issue but just an observation. I see yellowing when they are over watered but again that may not be your issue. Do you let the pots dry out at all in between watering?
 

Amateur-Grower

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It’s best to water in the morning will help prevent PM. Not that is your issue but just an observation. I see yellowing when they are over watered but again that may not be your issue. Do you let the pots dry out at all in between watering?
Sadly I work early morning to the afternoon. I read that watering mid afternoon is the worst to do so I wait a few hours before sundown. Yeah I do wait before watering again, it's been really hot over here, I tried skipping a day of watering, but the next day they were drooping worse than usual.
 

Treesomewanted77

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Oh I thought you were growing in soil. Maybe a coco grower can chime in and help you out bud.
I didn’t even see it was in coco. As big as they are the yellowing look like they are hungry since they are in the stretch they are eating like crazy so up your feed to 1200-1400 and make sure you get plenty of runoff everytime to avoid salt buildup
 

Amateur-Grower

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Oh I thought you were growing in soil. Maybe a coco grower can chime in and help you out bud.
I didn’t even see it was in coco. As big as they are the yellowing look like they are hungry since they are in the stretch they are eating like crazy so up your feed to 1200-1400 and make sure you get plenty of runoff everytime to avoid salt buildup
Thank you both for the help! I just wrapped my pots in burlap to try to limit how hot the plants get. I will also bump to PPM up. Gonna add more Part B mix and see how that goes!
 

outside Dixie

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Plant's look burnt to me l I have got 2 plant's not budding.But sucker leaves are coming off turning yellow but that because i don't see them much.Cut back some sucker leave's. Heart of Dixie
 

Amateur-Grower

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Plant's look burnt to me l I have got 2 plant's not budding.But sucker leaves are coming off turning yellow but that because i don't see them much.Cut back some sucker leave's. Heart of Dixie
From what I've seen online is that it can also be a potassium deficiency but it's hard to tell cause it's the same symptoms as nutrient burn lol. This feeding chart I was going off of said that 100% nutrients PPM should be between 1000 - 1100. I was barely breaking 1000 so I figured it couldn't be nutrient burn, but who knows.
 

Treesomewanted77

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From what I've seen online is that it can also be a potassium deficiency but it's hard to tell cause it's the same symptoms as nutrient burn lol. This feeding chart I was going off of said that 100% nutrients PPM should be between 1000 - 1100. I was barely breaking 1000 so I figured it couldn't be nutrient burn, but who knows.
You may want to move this over to the drain to waste hydro section for some better answers. Also have you checked for pest? I see you have a bunch of old dead leaves on top of the coco keep that cleaned out and cut off all the yellow leaves they won’t green up again so pay attention to the newest growth if your seeing tip burn then it can be over fed. Take some of the runoff and test the PPM to see what you’re getting out of the coco. I know it won’t be easy to lift those 15gal pots but if you can get them lifted up off the deck so you can collect some runoff and report back your findings. Don’t even worry about the runoff PH just what goes in.
 

Amateur-Grower

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You may want to move this over to the drain to waste hydro section for some better answers. Also have you checked for pest? I see you have a bunch of old dead leaves on top of the coco keep that cleaned out and cut off all the yellow leaves they won’t green up again so pay attention to the newest growth if your seeing tip burn then it can be over fed. Take some of the runoff and test the PPM to see what you’re getting out of the coco. I know it won’t be easy to lift those 15gal pots but if you can get them lifted up off the deck so you can collect some runoff and report back your findings. Don’t even worry about the runoff PH just what goes in.
I shook some branches today and indeed found pests. A couple of caterpillar's fell from 1 of my 6 plants. I'm assuming they are on the others as well, but didn't wanna fall. I sprayed them with Safer caterpillar spray around sun set. Gonna give it 5 days then spray them again. I also bumped my PPM to 1210, but seeing that there are pests maybe that was my issue. Might go back to 1000 PPM. I also wrapped burlap around my pots so when leaves fall they'll fall right on it and I'll remove them the next day.
 

Seawood

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They definitely aren’t happy. Better fix it soon. Are you watering until runoff? 2 gallons of water in a 15 gal pot is not nearly enough to get runoff…I’m betting the bottom of your pots are dry.
 

Amateur-Grower

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They definitely aren’t happy. Better fix it soon. Are you watering until runoff? 2 gallons of water in a 15 gal pot is not nearly enough to get runoff…I’m betting the bottom of your pots are dry.
I see a lot of water coming from the bottom after giving them the 2nd gallon. I gave them some Cal-Mag 5ml per gallon on Thursday and 1 TBSP of Molasses on Saturday, I'm hoping that will help them out. Gonna start doing that once per week.
 

outside Dixie

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Stop putting all that crap on it you are fucking with it too much.Mother nature will take care of it Leave it alone Sun and water
 

Dank Budz

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You said fox farm coco, is it that bush doctor coco loco stuff? Using coco outdoors is a tough way to grow, I've tried it once, with pretty good success. But they needed to be watered like 4 times a day minimum. You don't want to let the coir dry out at all (doesn't mean keep it completely saturated the whole time, more middle of the road, that's why most people who use coco have it on automatic feeders/watering.) Also with fabric pots make sure you're watering very slowly, water will always take the path of least resistance, often will flush out the sides of your pots without getting down to the bottom and leaving it dry
 
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The-Liquor

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I'm no expert but plants look thirsty. High heat, 2 gallons of water in a 15-gal pot does not seem like enough. I'd up it to 5 gallons. I'd use a hose to moisten the soil and wait 10 mins and then water. Or use 1 gallon and wait 10 mins and then water with the rest.

If your using 2 gallons and water is just running out the bottom your soil is probably hydrophobic or its just running out the sides.
 

toomaj

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My outdoor plants seem to continue yellowing with burnt leaves. I don’t think it’s nutrient burn, but I could be wrong. I water 2 gallons at a time due to the high heat and 15 gallon pots. Some times not at all depending if it rains. PPM is usually around 1020 and pH 6.5. I also believe they are tilting sideways due to the high winds. I don’t see any signs of flowering not sure what time of the year they start showing signs. Any advice would be appreciated :)
Exactly the problem with your plants is being doubted by the wind, but one good thing is that if you can control the wind, your plants will grow very, very well because of the doubt and will make strong legs if the doubt is stopped by the wind.
 
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